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Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby cotss2012 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:51 am

...I am willing to forgive everyone who was involved in the production of the Bayformers movies for almost everything that they did wrong.

I've come to realize that bad stories come in two fundamental varieties: there are the ones that annoy me the same amount each time I see one, and there are the ones that annoy me more and more each time, because they recycle the SAME DAMN CLICHES OVER AND OVER, and every time I see one, I experience the combined annoyance that I felt from every single time I was annoyed by this type of story before.

The Bayformers movies are stupid, but they're stupid in completely original ways. I have never, in all my years of movie-watching, seen a movie in which a human dies and goes to Robot Heaven, and all of the giant angel robots bring him back to life because he earned the key to a sun-destroying machine through his courage or whatever. It's stupid, but it's an awesome kind of stupid that I've never seen before.

Cars is the other kind of stupid. I won't even go into the fact that these guys obviously stole their idea from the Chevron commercials that started back in 1996. Let's start with the main character, something something Lightning, who has absolutely no personality beyond what is required to fit into the spoiled-celebrity-who-needs-to-get-out-more archetype that Disney hadn't touched for almost six whole years. While on the road, he becomes separated from his traveling companion, who sounds suspiciously like the pig from Toy Story and whom he tries to follow only to find out that he's been following the wrong guy. He gets stuck in Craphole-with-a-pleasant-name, Nevada, with a population of 8 people, all of whom play up some kind of Southern or Midwestern stereotype that would make this guy look subtle. From there, we move on to the hit-on-the-hot-chick-before-finding-out-she's-your-opponent scene, which doesn't really work too well when the characters are CARS but which nonetheless tells us exactly how these two characters' attitudes toward each other will change over the next 90 minutes, and then to the you're-old-so-you-can't-teach-me-anything scene that tells us exactly how THOSE two characters' attitudes toward each other will change over the next 90 minutes. This goes on until the end, at which point our protagonist gets to the big game, starts losing much more severely than he should, pulls ahead because of the power of friendship, and finally has the chance to do what he set out to do from the very beginning of the movie, but decides against it for really, mind-numbingly stupid reasons.

You can say what you want about the relative uselessness of Mikaela and Carly, or the talents of the actresses women who played them, but did either of them have a "they meet, she hates him right away, so you know they'll be an item by the end of the movie" moment? No. Was Megatron defeated because Optimus gave the Autobots a cheesy lecture about the importance of teamwork? Nope. Was Sam the kind of cut-out stereotype that you'd find in The Breakfast Club or Degrassi: The Next Generation? Nonono! Given the choice between these two kinds of bad - given the choice between "that's as interesting as my last acid trip and makes about as much sense" ideas and "let's just blatantly rip off every other movie ever made and not bother coming up with anything original" ideas - I'll take Deep Wang and the enemy scrotum every time.

Also, I would pay anything to see Cars vs. Tremors. Just add a crazy survivalist car named Burt Hummer and you're all set!
I do not blame Michael Bay for crapping all over a huge part of my childhood. He just directed the scripts that were given to him. I blame Orci, Kurtzman, and Krueger, who seem completely incapable of concocting a story that even halfway makes sense.

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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby RhA » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:41 am

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Seriously, they're just movies.

Seriously.
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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby Burn » Tue Dec 13, 2011 2:50 pm

RhA wrote:Seriously, they're just movies.

Seriously.


Which kids loved.
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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby BeastProwl » Tue Dec 13, 2011 4:28 pm

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Burn wrote:
RhA wrote:Seriously, they're just movies.

Seriously.


Which kids loved.

yeah, I also loved cars.
Not to mention your forgetting ONE thing...
ITS A FREAKING DYSNEY MOVIE!
you want explosions and all that jizz, watch cars 2!
guess what? There's a cars 2!
And, when he stopped and lost the race to save the king and his career? That right there, was the best freakin scene in the whole film. Sure the movie's a bit..Predictable, but I mean, it's a kids movie! Like a kids book, you know there's always a happy ending! I mean, if you know your not going to like a film aabout talking cars, wich, in itself is illogical enough just by looking at the damn dvd cover, then next time stop. put it back. and dont watch the movie starring the talking cars!
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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby cotss2012 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:34 pm

BeastProwl wrote:ITS A FREAKING DYSNEY MOVIE!


So was The Nightmare Before Christmas.

BeastProwl wrote:you want explosions and all that jizz, watch cars 2!


Explosions are cool, but does it have a good story?

BeastProwl wrote:And, when he stopped and lost the race to save the king and his career? That right there, was the best freakin scene in the whole film.


A low bar, to be sure.
I do not blame Michael Bay for crapping all over a huge part of my childhood. He just directed the scripts that were given to him. I blame Orci, Kurtzman, and Krueger, who seem completely incapable of concocting a story that even halfway makes sense.

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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby Shadowman » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:47 pm

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Is this going to be a theme? You just complaining about everything you don't like on here? Because I can't recall one post of yours so far that has been positive about the subject matter.
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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby SlyTF1 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:55 pm

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cotss2012 wrote:The Bayformers movies are stupid, but they're stupid in completely original ways. I have never, in all my years of movie-watching, seen a movie in which a human dies and goes to Robot Heaven, and all of the giant angel robots bring him back to life because he earned the key to a sun-destroying machine through his courage or whatever. It's stupid, but it's an awesome kind of stupid that I've never seen before.


First of all, I'm sick and damn tired of TF fans playing stupid to magnify the absurdity of a simple moment. This "robot heaven" is called the Well of Allsparks. Sam didn't go to the Well. All the knowledge from the Allspark that had embedded itself in Sam's brain, which held the collective wisdom of the first 13 (or 7)produced a VISION in his damn brain. What the Primes knew was in HIS HEAD. And apparently he began to understand what the Allspark was trying to tell him all along, damnit!

And I agree, Cars sucks ass. I've not seen the movies, but I will not withhold my judgement. I saw part of it though, and it sucked.
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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby cotss2012 » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:07 pm

Shadowman wrote:Is this going to be a theme? You just complaining about everything you don't like on here? Because I can't recall one post of yours so far that has been positive about the subject matter.


I have repeatedly mentioned that TF Prime is awesome.

SlyTF1 wrote:This "robot heaven" is called the Well of Allsparks. Sam didn't go to the Well.


Funny how that wasn't actually mentioned in the movie.
I do not blame Michael Bay for crapping all over a huge part of my childhood. He just directed the scripts that were given to him. I blame Orci, Kurtzman, and Krueger, who seem completely incapable of concocting a story that even halfway makes sense.

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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby Tweezy » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:11 pm

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Re: Having just seen Pixar's "Cars"...

Postby Burn » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:12 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:And I agree, Cars sucks ass. I've not seen the movies, but I will not withhold my judgement. I saw part of it though, and it sucked.


So you're casting judgement on something you haven't seen in full.

Is it any wonder people don't like you? :roll:

But again, for the target audience, they were awesome movies.
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