Master Renegade wrote:
To unnecessarily clarify, all anyone who's not a TF fan knows of Transformers anymore is these movies. I am ashamed to be considered a fan of Transformers now because of that. These movies would need a ton of improvement for me to consider them as simply bad, and I do not want to be associated with anything like that. Their opinion is of the movies irrelevant in that equation, only that they mistake me to be a fan of them simply because I several other incarnations of the franchise.
As for whether I believe you should be ashamed to like them: Yes, I do. I think everyone involved with them should be ashamed of making them, I think Hasbro should be ashamed of capitalizing on them, and theaters should be ashamed to show them. I think EVERYONE should be ashamed of having standards so low that they think these movies are good.
Don't, however, mistake that to mean that I expect you, or anyone else, will be ashamed. I've long ago quit expecting anyone to be ashamed of anything.
I would assume a lot of parents out there are aware of Transformers pre-2007, as they prove to be popular among children. So I wouldn't necessarily generalise "non-fans" here, although a good portion of these moviegoers are newcomers, like my own family. Really, I think other people could care less even if they did automatically associate you as a fan of the movies. From your wording, in my personal opinion, you are taking this a little too seriously and are letting it affect you more than you should. They're just movies, after all. I hated War of the Worlds, but I didn't go saying people who liked it should be ashamed of it and I really didn't care afterward; because I didn't like it, so I felt no need to cling to the fact I disliked it. Really, I think you would feel a lot happier if you just threw these movies over your head and get back to what you like the most about this franchise.
The part I highlighted upset me a little especially the last sentence. Maybe it shouldn't, but it did anyway. I enjoyed nearly every second of all three films, bought the corresponding video games, and truckloads of Hasbro products from them. And now to tell me that I have extremely low standards and should be ashamed because I enjoy them, quite frankly, insults me. I thought they were very good films, because I got what I paid for and more. My father even calls them "timeless". I know I'm not a stupid person. I've never failed a subject in school, never failed a standardized test, I've never done anything under my own will that put me in the emergency room (yet), and I've never done anything that was illegal or would upset my family. And I know there are numerous intelligent people on this very website that I enjoy talking to that share my opinion on these Transformers films...people that I've learned a lot from just from what they type back to me. Do they all have low standards too? Should they all be ashamed? I'd sure hate to tell them that, because even though I've never met them in person, I respect them for how they represent themselves.
Here's the difference between you and I: Our opinions aren't identical. And they shouldn't be, or else the natural balance of the universe would be thrown. This does not automatically mean my views make me a lesser individual. I believe there is a fine line between being entertained by Michael Bay's films and being entertained by partying and getting intoxicated. I would consider that
low standards, not enjoying a random film.
In reality, they're just movies. We need not belittle others because of their daring to enjoy them. Movies: That's all they are, and that's all they'll ever be. They should not define the values of an individual.