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Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby Atary77 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 5:17 pm

Long since the 80's many Transformers fans including myself have been awaiting the day to see another decent film in the franchise. Sadly that wasn't 2007, nor 2009, nor in 2011. No all we were delivered was disappointment served by a childish, selfish, sexist, racist moron who directed it. Oh I'm sure there are other people that are responsible for all three Transformers movies being as bad as they are but since mister Bay is the dude who's felt so proud to slap his name in the biggest letters and have his name said and the end of every advertisement, then you'll understand why I decide to take out my frustrations and file my complaints towards him.

Keep in mind I'm only judging these movies as just that. Movies. I'm not gonna rant about how the films don't specifically follow the continuity established by Generation 1 comics or animation. I'm looking at the three films by themselves just to be fair. So let's start with what's wrong with this whole mess of a trilogy.

1. Where's the title characters?- The movies are all called Transformers so why pray tell is the majority of the film centered around Shia LaBouff and what slut he happens to be with. Not to mention the goofy side characters like all the asshole government agents and the goofy comic reliefs who try too hard to be funny. I paid money to see giant robots so why do I only see them one tenth of the film? They should be the **** stars of the movie not just a couple of distractions which is how I felt they were being treated. This could be chalked up to the fact the effects for the robots are extremely expensive to render. But maybe they could've saved some money by not setting every damn thing on fire with huge exsplosions and paying actors who play characters that have nothing to do with the story other than the fact they happen to be there!

2. Poor Writing- There are more problems with this scripts than the recent Violent Video games bill California tried to pass! The attempts at humor in this movie try too freaking hard to be funny in a crude way that it's just obnoxious! Seems like not one scene goes by without some kind of dick, fart, sex, masturbation, drug, or racist crack at something. It's like something brought in the writers of Family Guy for god's sake. Now with the second film Revenge of the Fallen it's said that many of the writers were on strike at the time the script was being made and that Micheal bay himself did most of the writing. To that end it only shows how much of an over grown brat Bay is. And for something that's supposed to be intended for something of a younger audience there's an awful lot of vulgarity and dirty words in these flicks. Seriously every single thing that happened at the college is just painful to watch and just unnecessary! And lets not forget about the giant robot with testicles and bare man ass on screen! And don't even get me started on that little piece of shit Wheelie! Seriously Wheelie was a piece of shit! Best way I can describe that worthless character. Oh and about the racist stuff...

3. Racial stereo types- This could probably go with the bad writing but it's thrown in your face so much in these films that it's impossible to ignore. Sure there have been some movies blamed for being racist just for subtle things here and there. But if that's the case all three of these movies could warrant a march from just about every ethnicity. I mean Jesus Christ how could they get away with some of these characters? Every black guy in this movie with the exception of one soldier character was some goofy moron being silly and stereo typical and... hell that's how every non-white person in this movie is treated! Even the robots are stereotypical with Skids and Mudflap talking jive and acting like rappers from the friggen 1980's. The only way it could've been worse is if they had pure black faces and white lips! Granted even the white characters in these movies are goofy too but some of which are just down right creepy like the college professor from RotF and John Malchovich from DotM.

4. Sexist much?- Yeah let's not forget about how much hot girl ass gets more screen time than the **** robots the movies are named after. Being a guy I can admit I like seeing T and A in my movies but to be honest I don't expect to see them in a movie that's supposed about be about giant robots beating the shit out of each other! Not to mention if you're gonna cast someone attractive in your third movie at least make sure they can **** act! Looks don't mean a damn thing if their acting skills are as sharp as a turd!



5. The director- Oh yes Micheal Bay, the previous three reasons I mentioned above are pretty much his fault. Yep that's his vision folks. That's what he wanted in his movies. Why would anyone want this? Well I'll tell you and I'm not just exaggerating my opinion here. Oh no, I'm saying this because I firmly believe this about Bay's personal character. Call slander all you want but I've yet to see anything that proves me otherwise of this. Micheal Bay as both a person and a director is in fact a childish ,racist ,sexist bastard. Yes I said it and I'm not apologizing for that either. Throughout these movies and in other movies he's done Micheal Bay has shown his capacity for poor crude humor and portraying racial stereo types as if he believes that's how all black, Mexican, Indian, and all around brown people act. Because he does believe that. Women? Well he thinks you're all nothing more than curvy objects to be ogled at and too insecure to do anything on your own without the help of a big strong man.
Now for all of you out there who think I'm just saying these mean and nasty things about him just to say them then let me ask this, take a movie like say The King's Speech ,True Grit ,or Dark Knight with him in the directors chair. Now do you think those movies would be as good? The answer to that riddle is no kids. They would be more insensitive eye **** which is all we've ever gotten out of this man. Sadly all he's going to do is keep raping our eyes with sexism and racism as long as Hollywood gives him money for it and they'll keep doing that because Hollywood is as shallow as he is.

There you have it, these movies have been nothing more than a raping of what I consider precious childhood memories. And Hollywood gave him the power to do it and they let him get away with it while they just watched. So Don Murphy and Stephen Speilberg don't be proud of yourselves. No one should be proud of these. I'm more than certain Peter Cullen isn't happy with any of these movies. And if he is then my god what's wrong with him? So after three movies of failure I'm not buying in to any more of the hype for any more of these films or the merchandise nor will I be getting the DVD's anytime soon. Way to go Micheal Bay, Stephen Spielberg, and Don Murphy you guys failed miserably in the eyes of fans and just movie goers and critics alike. Especially you Micheal Bay. You childish, racist, sexist asshole.
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:07 pm

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I love how you mention nothing of Hasbro, the company that owns the rights to TF and there respective property, any responsibility to what happened to your beloved "Childhood memories". :roll:

Now that you've got all that out of your system, please go back under the bridge in which you reside.
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby Pontimax 01 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 6:50 pm

Christ, where do all these people keep bleeding out of the woodwork over these movies? What convinces someone to sign up on a forum, commit their first post to something like this, and to just bitch bitch bitch about their childhood being raped?

Or are we seeing certain members create false accounts to just keep posting the same nonsense over and over again? :-?
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby Burn » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:14 pm

I was going to lock this thread, but you know what? I'm going to leave it open for a little bit just to see how the responses go. After all, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

The question is, will Atary77 bother to come back and reply to the responses?

And for those that feel the need to respond, keep it civil.
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:28 pm

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1. It wasn't really Bay's idea to center everything around Shia. It was actually Spielberg's idea to focus the story around a kid and his first car. Bay and Orci/Kurtzman liked the idea and used it.

2. What can I say, Bay loves his improv humor. I don't like the toilet humor any more than you do, but at least he knew he went overboard in ROTF and was willing to tone it down in DOTM. Personally, with the sole exception of the leg-humping, I find Bayverse Wheelie kind of entertaining. He might be a sleazebot, but at least he has a character of his own. IMO, Arcee was a potentially interesting character [three bodies inhabited by one mind] that never got any characterization at all.

3. No comment.

4. Agree about M. Fox not being able to act to save her life. No comment on Rosie Huntington-something; haven't seen the movie yet. But from what I've heard about her acting in the movie, and from interviews, she seems like a far more genuine person than Fox.

5. No comment.

My only peeve with Bay and Orci/Kurtzman is their tendency towards toilet humor and Bay's sometimes directionless improv scenes. But other than that, I personally love the new TF designs. Now I DID grow up in the 80's and enjoyed G1 as a kid, but I personally think Bay's bots are a step in the right direction, in that they're not just variations or mere derivatives of the original design. I liked G1 Bumblebee as a kid, but I can still appreciate Bayverse Bee's more kickass incarnation.

Just my two cent's worth...[slinks away to put on a flame-retardant suit.]
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby Atary77 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:58 pm

I'll admit yeah I did get angry when writing this, sadly that's pretty much how I felt after three movies that I felt in my opinion were pretty much all the same. And yes I can admit I may not be right about everything I said but this was my opinions on these films. And of course the director.

As I mentioned above I make no apologies for what I said. AS for what other folks said I like it when my opinions are challenged. Why else would I come to the internet to vent my frustrations about these films. There have been times where I felt I'd like to be proven wrong about about certain things.

I'm not surprised Stephen Spielberg made some major decisions that made me frustrated about the films as well. I haven't really cared for his style of film making honestly. But still there's a reason I put the word (rant) in the title cause that's what this is. Venting about how I felt about these flicks and why I care not to watch them again.

But the big reason I posted this here, as the same reason anyone post anything on a web forum I wanted to hear the opinions of the community here.
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby dinogeist » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:15 pm

To be quite honest the movie verse wasn't the only one that changed everything G-1.

Beastwars,RID,AEC,Animated & TF Prime are doing exactly the same thing. by offering different toy designs than G-1. All be in different alternate universes/realities.

the thing with transformers,things are contantly changing. so if don't like the current TF toy line,cartoon/movie/comic/whataever. wait 18+months & something brand new will replace it.

Even though I dis-like something. I still find & grab enjoyment in something. Their are always a few awesome TF toys to find in the most hated TF toy lines. their is always some decent episode to find in the worst TF cartoon.

I'm different than the average TF fan. because I seperate the fiction from the toys. I'm in it more for the toys & don't need a decent media persona to enjoy a TF toy mold design i like.
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby 5150 Cruiser » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:33 pm

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First off i should apoligies for my intial usuption of you being a troll. In past experiance when someones first post is directed solely on hating on Bay, and only bay for there dislikes for the movies, they generaly only post to cause a shit storm and never return. Since you returned looking for reponses and opinions, i think its only fair retract my privous statment. For now.. ;)

But if you want peoples opinions on these movies, you only have to look down a few threads from this one. The movie topic has been discussed with great detail on several levels. UBt to this day, the one thing that both movie lovers and haters never seem to address, is Hasbro's involvment in these prodjects. I refuse to believe that they don't have final say as far as how their products are protrayed. Not everything, good or bad, can be put solely on Bay's sholders. I can understand certain aspects such as how it filmed, actors direction on set as well as the overall scenes, but things such as script, robot designs, robot screen time, how the bots are portrayed is not solely on Bay. This is Hasbro's babay and for the most part, bread and butter. There not going to let one man make the final decesions on how the franchise is going to be protrayed.
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby Atary77 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:57 pm

I have to admit, in my anger it never occured to me to hold Hasbro as well for being responsible for letting these movies end up the way they did. I shall certainly be adding them to my shit list along with mister Murphy, Spielberg, and Bay.
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Re: Here's to you Micheal Bay (rant)

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:04 pm

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Would people shut the hell up about Bay? All he did was freaking make a movie! I read comments all the time saying "Damn you Michael Bay" or "Michael bay you ass!" when all he did was make a movie. Is it really that important for people to damn someone to hell who simply made a movie? Just the sheet amount of hatred directed to him for putting pictures on a projector is freaking ridiculous.
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