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SlyTF1 wrote:

Master Renegade wrote:Atary77, I agree with your original post 100%.

SlyTF1 wrote:Would people shut the hell up about Bay? All he did was freaking make a movie! I read comments all the time saying "Damn you Michael Bay" or "Michael bay you ass!" when all he did was make a movie. Is it really that important for people to damn someone to hell who simply made a movie? Just the sheet amount of hatred directed to him for putting pictures on a projector is freaking ridiculous.

Where this is concerned, it's not the fact that he made a movie that pisses me off, it's that me made incredibly bad movies, and in the process turned a franchise I loved into a franchise I'm ashamed to be a fan of. He made movies that made me hate the idea of any live-action Transformers movies ever being made again, even if they were to reboot the series. These worthless piles of shit are what Transformers is now known to be, and if you admit ti being a fan to anyone who isn't a fan, this is what they think you like. That is why I am pissed off about these movies.

Well get over it. Because the majority of the people like the movies.

yeh man, its popular so its doesnt matter uf you dont like it, its what other people think

SlyTF1 wrote:Well get over it. Because the majority of the people like the movies.

No, because in my experience, the majority is usually wrong.

SlyTF1 wrote:

shamone wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Master Renegade wrote:Atary77, I agree with your original post 100%.

SlyTF1 wrote:Would people shut the hell up about Bay? All he did was freaking make a movie! I read comments all the time saying "Damn you Michael Bay" or "Michael bay you ass!" when all he did was make a movie. Is it really that important for people to damn someone to hell who simply made a movie? Just the sheet amount of hatred directed to him for putting pictures on a projector is freaking ridiculous.

Where this is concerned, it's not the fact that he made a movie that pisses me off, it's that me made incredibly bad movies, and in the process turned a franchise I loved into a franchise I'm ashamed to be a fan of. He made movies that made me hate the idea of any live-action Transformers movies ever being made again, even if they were to reboot the series. These worthless piles of shit are what Transformers is now known to be, and if you admit ti being a fan to anyone who isn't a fan, this is what they think you like. That is why I am pissed off about these movies.

Well get over it. Because the majority of the people like the movies.

yeh man, its popular so its doesnt matter uf you dont like it, its what other people think

Pretty much.

yeh personal choice and critical judgment should always be trumped by popularity

"It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb."
-Gabriel Angelos, Captain of the Blood Ravens 3rd Company

It helps people when they have someone to blame when something terrible happens to them, I don't blame them, though it helps to point fingers at the whole problem rather than one facet. Bay may have been the linchpin of this whole debacle, however there are many more people who's at fault, even or especially Hasbro. Despite this, it is still more constructive to give a well written and well thought review of the films rather than personal attacks.

Same goes for the other end of the spectrum, you only hurt your cause by sucking Bay's metaphorical ****. Trying to make someone else's opinion sound wrong rather than different makes you sound pretentious. Give your reasons why you liked the movies and leave it there, be the better man by not fighting a pointless argument.

As for me, I didn't like the movies. I enjoyed watching the TFs duking it out when it was reasonable (OP cutting a swathe of ultimate destruction does not count) and when they actually got dialogue to themselves, but nothing else. They did not focus on the whole "Transformers" aspect of Transformers and that's why it failed in my eyes. Oh well, at least I still have you, Aligned Continuity.

Master Renegade wrote:Atary77, I agree with your original post 100%.

SlyTF1 wrote:Would people shut the hell up about Bay? All he did was freaking make a movie! I read comments all the time saying "Damn you Michael Bay" or "Michael bay you ass!" when all he did was make a movie. Is it really that important for people to damn someone to hell who simply made a movie? Just the sheet amount of hatred directed to him for putting pictures on a projector is freaking ridiculous.

Where this is concerned, it's not the fact that he made a movie that pisses me off, it's that me made incredibly bad movies, and in the process turned a franchise I loved into a franchise I'm ashamed to be a fan of. He made movies that made me hate the idea of any live-action Transformers movies ever being made again, even if they were to reboot the series. These worthless piles of shit are what Transformers is now known to be, and if you admit ti being a fan to anyone who isn't a fan, this is what they think you like. That is why I am pissed off about these movies.

So, are you saying that I should go beat myself up for being a fan of worthless piles of s**t, then go yelling to my family and friends that they're fans of worthless s**t and should be ashamed of themsleves and that people have negative impressions of them because they told them they like the Transformers movies? So basically, if I tell someone I'm a Transformers fan, they'll think: "Oh my, he likes those incredibly bad movies. He must have bad moral values."

Decepticon_Vandal wrote:"It is human nature to seek culpability in a time of tragedy. It is a sign of strength to cry out against fate, rather than to bow one's head and succumb."
-Gabriel Angelos, Captain of the Blood Ravens 3rd Company

It helps people when they have someone to blame when something terrible happens to them, I don't blame them, though it helps to point fingers at the whole problem rather than one facet. Bay may have been the linchpin of this whole debacle, however there are many more people who's at fault, even or especially Hasbro. Despite this, it is still more constructive to give a well written and well thought review of the films rather than personal attacks.

Same goes for the other end of the spectrum, you only hurt your cause by sucking Bay's metaphorical ****. Trying to make someone else's opinion sound wrong rather than different makes you sound pretentious. Give your reasons why you liked the movies and leave it there, be the better man by not fighting a pointless argument.

As for me, I didn't like the movies. I enjoyed watching the TFs duking it out when it was reasonable (OP cutting a swathe of ultimate destruction does not count) and when they actually got dialogue to themselves, but nothing else. They did not focus on the whole "Transformers" aspect of Transformers and that's why it failed in my eyes. Oh well, at least I still have you, Aligned Continuity.

The issue here is that, rather than bash the films, a lot of people bash the fans of them.

Here's the thing. People want to watch a movie with some human involvement in it. As a Transformer fan I want to see more Transformers but I realize that they would not make a successful movie by doing that. Most of us love the original animated movie, but it didn't fare well in the theater. Nor would that same movie do well again in 2007.

OptiMagnus wrote:So, are you saying that I should go beat myself up for being a fan of worthless piles of s**t, then go yelling to my family and friends that they're fans of worthless s**t and should be ashamed of themsleves and that people have negative impressions of them because they told them they like the Transformers movies? So basically, if I tell someone I'm a Transformers fan, they'll think: "Oh my, he likes those incredibly bad movies. He must have bad moral values."

If that's what you're reading into my comments, then you either need to brush up on your reading skills and look again, or see if your defective brain is under warranty and able to be replaced. I never said nor implied anything about morality.

What I said, and what I meant, are EXACTLY what the words themselves say. Nothing more, nothing less.

This thread still open? Nice.

I've been trying to think how Mikaely could fit in with Carly. Sure, she moved to DC and lived with Sam after ROTF. Then turned out her career is going better than Sam's. Then dumped Sam to mate with Mr. Appropriate and then rescued by Sam in Chicago and then talked to Megatron to make him shoot at Sentinel. Then Bee's gear rings dropped. Only a little tweak these female characters are easily re-writable. So they are really NOT important. Rosie does make people feel a little bit of loosing chemistry between She and Shia but again, this all doesn't matter IMO.

If the critics or any body never brought up the racist thing, would people ever think of it when watching the movies? Even up until now I've watched the previous two movies numerous times, I always think they are just bad jokes. I'm in different color than white myself and I don't feel offend when Keiko asking "which bag?" and Ken jerking his tongue and head. Think about this, you all know who the two major big stars in one of Bay's hit Bad Boys are.

How many new fans has these three movies created than loosing the old? If the new is greater, Bay already did what Hasbro want.