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[JazZeke]

Amazed no one has started this yet. Well, looks like it's up to me to save the day!

Wow wow wow! My faith is this show has just about been restored, after the crapfastic last season.

I was blown away by the revelation that it was future-Peter who shot Nathan. But I just love the cold-hearted bastard future-Peter is, and the exchanges between him and Angela were the highlights of his scenes for me. (Nice to finally know what her power is too.) I still don't get how he managed to "send" his past self "into" someone else. My theory is that he picked up an ability to posses people somewhere in the future (think Jericho from Teen Titans), took over his past self's body, and sent his exorcised his spirit into that other guy's body. Which would mean that the scar-face Peter is really the illusion, and he takes that form to let people know he's not the regular Peter. Just a wild theory, though, to explain an odd detail of the show that I doubt the writers will explain themselves.

I totally saw Mohinder's experiment backfiring. The rule of science fiction is that when you're on top of the world because of a new ability or whatever, something is going to go hideously wrong, and there's likely slime involved.

I KNEW Linderman was going to be an illusion in Nathan's head. I wonder if he put himself in Nathan's head before death or if this is Nathan's pre-established tendency for split personalities resurfacing. Still, a cool dynamic we're having here.

There are still some problems, like Claire continuing to be a whiny little brat. I'm really beginning to despise her character, always fretting and worrying and then turning around five minutes later and saying how her powers can be the only thing to save the day. And sweet mercy, that scene with Sylar picking apart her brain was REVOLTING.

And what's up with Niki/Jessica/whatever the hell her name is now? Bad enough she cheated death, but now she has new powers? Wouldn't it have been just easier to introduce a new character? Okay, the possible scenario we're dealing with here is that each personality has a different power, and while I'll admit that's an interesting idea, I still think her character(s) is/are lame.

But WOW, what an ENDING! I DID NOT see that coming, but I find myself very pleased with the concept of Sylar and Peter being brothers. It certainly sheds new light on why Gabriel's mother told him he wasn't her son right before he killed her. This certainly explains why they have similar powers, and will make for even more awesome dynamics during their inevitable clashes.

All in all, I am VERY EXCITED about this show again!

[Avatar Prime]

I ended up missing a probably an hour and a half of everything they showed last night due to various reasons.
I ended up missing a good portion of Season 2 due to missing the first few episodes since I didn't know it was on tv at the time and being unable to catch a few of the later episodes. I hope to buy the Heroes 2 dvd at the end of the month.

What I was able to catch I thought was amazing.
I liked the joke when Sylar had her head open and she asked if he was going to eat her brain and he replied in that disgusted way. I remember how they originally alluded to him doing that before deciding to have it be what he does.
I knew something twisted had to be up with Linderman being alive and well after seeing him die in Season 1, I just wasn't expecting that it'd be in his head.
That was a good reveal at the end of the episode and can't wait to see where they take it and the other threads.

I was wondering one-two things each time Hiro came across the speed woman and the half of that formula. Couldn't he just rewind time to seconds before she stole the piece or something, or would she be unaffected by it like when he freezes time?

What was the future that Hiro keeps mentioning? Did they end up showing it?
I already can't wait for the next episode and to see which hero(es) become villains.
I'm hoping to catch it again on G4 as I saw a commercial that said it would be on there tonight at 10 pm. Hopefully this time I'll see it all.

[JazZeke]

I was wondering one-two things each time Hiro came across the speed woman and the half of that formula. Couldn't he just rewind time to seconds before she stole the piece or something, or would she be unaffected by it like when he freezes time?

I don't think Hiro can rewind time around him or travel back to where/when he's been before without risking a paradox/temporal rift/weird sci-fi universal implosion. All he can do is slow/freeze time and warp to places and times he hasn't been before.

What was the future that Hiro keeps mentioning? Did they end up showing it?

Hiro went to the future and witness himself and Ando fighting for the formula. They both accuse each other of betrayal and turning evil. Then Ando shoots him with red electrical powers coming from his hands, grabs the formula, and runs just as a massive explosion/black cloud is enveloping Tokyo.

[Moonlight]

I do not think it is one of those shows you can just pick up anytime and know what is going on. I had heard it was a great show so I watched it for the first time last night. I had no idea what was going on. I ended up giving up and watching CSI instead. I will wait for it to come out on cable and watch it from the begining.

[Avatar Prime]

I was wondering one-two things each time Hiro came across the speed woman and the half of that formula. Couldn't he just rewind time to seconds before she stole the piece or something, or would she be unaffected by it like when he freezes time?

I don't think Hiro can rewind time around him or travel back to where/when he's been before without risking a paradox/temporal rift/weird sci-fi universal implosion. All he can do is slow/freeze time and warp to places and times he hasn't been before.

What was the future that Hiro keeps mentioning? Did they end up showing it?

Hiro went to the future and witness himself and Ando fighting for the formula. They both accuse each other of betrayal and turning evil. Then Ando shoots him with red electrical powers coming from his hands, grabs the formula, and runs just as a massive explosion/black cloud is enveloping Tokyo.

That does make sense that it would cause a paradox or some other problem. Didn't he almost cause a problem in Season 2? I think he tried to save his dad or at least witness who killed him.
That's interesting. That probably stems from how Hiro is treating Ando over it in the present.

[JazZeke]

I was wondering one-two things each time Hiro came across the speed woman and the half of that formula. Couldn't he just rewind time to seconds before she stole the piece or something, or would she be unaffected by it like when he freezes time?

I don't think Hiro can rewind time around him or travel back to where/when he's been before without risking a paradox/temporal rift/weird sci-fi universal implosion. All he can do is slow/freeze time and warp to places and times he hasn't been before.

What was the future that Hiro keeps mentioning? Did they end up showing it?

Hiro went to the future and witness himself and Ando fighting for the formula. They both accuse each other of betrayal and turning evil. Then Ando shoots him with red electrical powers coming from his hands, grabs the formula, and runs just as a massive explosion/black cloud is enveloping Tokyo.

That does make sense that it would cause a paradox or some other problem. Didn't he almost cause a problem in Season 2? I think he tried to save his dad or at least witness who killed him.
That's interesting. That probably stems from how Hiro is treating Ando over it in the present.

No, I don't believe he ever risked a paradox in season 2. He tried to save his father, but since he hadn't been there for it the first time around, it didn't cause any problems in that way.

And yes, that was exactly why Hiro was uneasy around Ando after that.

[Senor Hugo]

Heroes really should just trim some of it's branching storylines.

The Hiro storyline is, as always, awesome.

Same with the Peter/Sylar/Noah/Claire storyline.


Everything else is a big "eh." That could be cut and make the show a lot better.

[JazZeke]

Heroes really should just trim some of it's branching storylines.

The Hiro storyline is, as always, awesome.

Same with the Peter/Sylar/Noah/Claire storyline.


Everything else is a big "eh." That could be cut and make the show a lot better.

I enjoy the Parkman angle. But then, he's usually tied in closely to the Peter/Sylar/Noah/Claire plot. And the stuff with Mohinder is usually pretty interesting.

It annoys me that they never really tied the Saunders in with the rest of the characters, save for having Nikki there at the end of season one to futilely hit Sylar with a pole.

[Avatar Prime]

I caught the 10 pm airing on G4 and seeing it all helped me to understand the bits of the show I saw Monday night.
It showed that Hiro was refusing to go back even to ask him dad, no more past just the future. Too bad for him and Ando that Hiro couldn't hear what they were saying. I wish I there was more images of the future in the two episodes.
The Claire portion of the ending was so creepy.
Who were all the villains they showed in the mother's dreams? I recognized Maury Parkman, Adam Monroe, and Tracy Strauss.
I wonder if they'll fail in they're mission as Peter mentioned they were being hunted down and used and the last 12 episodes will consist of Volume 4 called Fugitives.

[The Chronic]

Yata! I watched both episodes last night, some real good stuff there,
Ando has the coolest powers, some kind of red hydoken/kamayamaya wave, Sylar picking at Claires brain was sick and Parkman talking to a turtle was comedy gold

Cant wait for next week, really interested to see where this goes although Avatar Prime made a good point about the next chapter being called Fugitives, it seems the future is already written

[energonexpress]

Ok, here's my take on the whole "another Nikki" thing. Her and DL towards the end of season one saw that Linderman had records on everything about them. I'm thinking since the governor assistant lady didn't know anything about what was going on, and it would make no sense for her to have political knowledge and such, that she's either a: a clone or b: there's a bunch of "nikki's" running around that are test tube babies.

Imagine if Linderman's people were experimenting from the early days of the company and they figured out not how to give people powers like Mohinder did, but did figure out how to affect embryo's so that they'd develop powers. Toss some mass cloning in and you could have 100 "Nikkis" planted wherever, with all kinds of different powers. Maybe "Jessica" was real, and her power was to body jump ala Jericho, and two of the "clones" had been placed with the same parent as "twins". I wouldn't be suprised if more mysterious look a like blondes turn up.

That's my theory anyway.

[JazZeke]

Ok, here's my take on the whole "another Nikki" thing. Her and DL towards the end of season one saw that Linderman had records on everything about them. I'm thinking since the governor assistant lady didn't know anything about what was going on, and it would make no sense for her to have political knowledge and such, that she's either a: a clone or b: there's a bunch of "nikki's" running around that are test tube babies.

Imagine if Linderman's people were experimenting from the early days of the company and they figured out not how to give people powers like Mohinder did, but did figure out how to affect embryo's so that they'd develop powers. Toss some mass cloning in and you could have 100 "Nikkis" planted wherever, with all kinds of different powers. Maybe "Jessica" was real, and her power was to body jump ala Jericho, and two of the "clones" had been placed with the same parent as "twins". I wouldn't be suprised if more mysterious look a like blondes turn up.

That's my theory anyway.

That would be cool.

[energonexpress]

Ok, here's my take on the whole "another Nikki" thing. Her and DL towards the end of season one saw that Linderman had records on everything about them. I'm thinking since the governor assistant lady didn't know anything about what was going on, and it would make no sense for her to have political knowledge and such, that she's either a: a clone or b: there's a bunch of "nikki's" running around that are test tube babies.

Imagine if Linderman's people were experimenting from the early days of the company and they figured out not how to give people powers like Mohinder did, but did figure out how to affect embryo's so that they'd develop powers. Toss some mass cloning in and you could have 100 "Nikkis" planted wherever, with all kinds of different powers. Maybe "Jessica" was real, and her power was to body jump ala Jericho, and two of the "clones" had been placed with the same parent as "twins". I wouldn't be suprised if more mysterious look a like blondes turn up.

That's my theory anyway.

"I created you."-Dr. Zimmerman, Season 3, ep. 2

Yes. I'm. Awesome. : p (or I've read waaaay too many comic books)

He also alluded to at least one other, who he though the ice chick was, so we know he made at least 4 of 'em. I hope they don't throw too many out at once.

[Tekka]

Sylar as G-Man's partner was the best thing ever. I hope they get into more shenanigans in the future.

[energonexpress]

The preview bit of "happy baking sylar" was just about the creepiest thing ever. I wouldn't eat his cupcakes.

[Senor Hugo]

You could see the clone angle coming from a mile away. How much you want to bet there is at least a couple more.

Best part was easily Sylar.

[JazZeke]

You know, I'm a little disappointed. They really hyped up these Level Five escapees as some big bads, and now they're all caught or dead by the third episode. Kind of hope there are more of these guys running around, but nobody else was mentioned.

Sylar was strangely awesome to watch as a "good guy." He's right, it's interesting to see how it all will play out.

[Senor Hugo]

What I thought was hilarious, was when Noah was showing Claire who escaped, and when they came to the Mexican guy who Peter happened to be in he said "you don't wanna know what he does" like it was something incredibly awesome.

He just screams, real loud. It was even better since me and my roomies were watching the episode, they wondered what his power was. I said "watch it'll be super scream" then -blam- it turns out to be right.

So much for the "villains"

[SSJVegeta]

Is anyone else starting to suspect that in the Heroes Universe super-powers tends to come with a high rate of mental instability? Think about it, the three people on the show most together mentally? Noah, Ando and Suresh. And in two of those we've gotten glimpses that getting powers makes them more than a little off.

Not to say there arn't guys with powers that arn't stable. DL certainly was. Molly seemed normal for a kid. But look at the list of mental problems and extreme personalities the rest of the super-powered cast exibits.

And speaking of Molly, with Suresh shcaking up with Infectious Lass and Parkman on another Continent, whose taking care of her? Also, sucks to be Micah.

[energonexpress]

I believe they mentioned something in the premier about Molly living with some foster family now. (aka "we don't have a need for her so here's a convenient write off until we do")

So how come Micah's cousin or whatever wasn't there with him? She get written off too or think she'll make another appearance? I really don't care if she does come back. She watched kung fu movies, she totally shoulda been able to take care of a few hoodlums. Perfect memory indeed.

[Tigertrack]

I believe they mentioned something in the premier about Molly living with some foster family now. (aka "we don't have a need for her so here's a convenient write off until we do")

So how come Micah's cousin or whatever wasn't there with him? She get written off too or think she'll make another appearance? I really don't care if she does come back. She watched kung fu movies, she totally shoulda been able to take care of a few hoodlums. Perfect memory indeed.

Parkman mentioned putting Molly on a plane, yes, to live with a family in a place she cannot be found.

It's okay, but where are the truly unique powers? All of these have been in the mutant-verse of X-men for ages.

Syler reminds of Sabertooth when he joined the X-Men. Still bad, but tamed down a bit, and shown to have some level of humanity and lotalty...not much but some.

[JazZeke]

It's okay, but where are the truly unique powers? All of these have been in the mutant-verse of X-men for ages.

Well, the mutant-verse has pretty much done everything for a power that can be done. Can you think of anything they COULD do that someone hasn't thought of before?

You know what would be truly unique? A "Hero" that couldn't qualify to be on a magazine cover.

[Tigertrack]

It's okay, but where are the truly unique powers? All of these have been in the mutant-verse of X-men for ages.

Well, the mutant-verse has pretty much done everything for a power that can be done. Can you think of anything they COULD do that someone hasn't thought of before?

You know what would be truly unique? A "Hero" that couldn't qualify to be on a magazine cover.

Like the X-men had headed before Mday. The bad guys technically are not cover material. But yeah, they are a fairly 'photogenic' group aren't they?

[Senor Hugo]

Well going with what TT24 said. What about the actual mutants? Not just the "hey I'm tremendously hot, have a good life, but I feel cursed and emo because I CAN'T DIE" mutants. Sure Suresh may be turning into one, but thats more of your typical science experiment gone horribly wrong than genetic mutation where you grow a third arm out of your colon upon hitting puberty.

[energonexpress]

As long as we don't get any wooly mammoth headed folks that spit acid I'll be ok with it. X-men just got frickin weird after a while.

Actually, if they did someone like the pre-man-spider six armed spiderman that could look cool with the effects they can pull off these days. Toss in some reflexes and you'd have a nifty fighter type.