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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:52 pm

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Chronic wrote:what about if the tatget can get the bounty setter before someone gets him then it nullifys the bounty or something along those lines
Nice. Taking the hunter out first cancells the bounty. Yeah, we can add that. Maybe even take out the client too if its a public contract?



What if taking out the client resulted in the bounty getting reversed. Say the bounty Name_Violation placed on me i had taken him down; the bounty got flipped and was then on him, and still had to pay the bill if someone else claimed his team?


That... will make bounties dry up. What's the point of putting a bounty on someone if they can force you to be the one bountied and you'd have to pay for it? Most times, bounties end up being placed on someone who's fustrating you, maybe their team is beating you a lot. So if they're beating you, and you bounty them, they beat you and flip the bounty? What's the point of bountying them then?
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Raphael Prime » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:40 am

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Raphael Prime wrote:What if taking out the client resulted in the bounty getting reversed. Say the bounty Name_Violation placed on me i had taken him down; the bounty got flipped and was then on him, and still had to pay the bill if someone else claimed his team?


That... will make bounties dry up. What's the point of putting a bounty on someone if they can force you to be the one bountied and you'd have to pay for it? Most times, bounties end up being placed on someone who's fustrating you, maybe their team is beating you a lot. So if they're beating you, and you bounty them, they beat you and flip the bounty? What's the point of bountying them then?



Yeah, i didn't really think about that when i posted the idea. So disregard that post/idea.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Psychout » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:52 am

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When the bounties become automated it'll be worth looking at variations like that, but when I add this it will just canel the bounty for now. That not to say counter-bounties cant be posted... :lol:

Absolute Zero wrote:Maybe taking leader alt modes? Preds have to take down a mammoth, lion, and ape, Maximals have to take down a T-Rex, dragon, and either the multi-dino alt or the 3 alts that make that up. It's not nessicarily hard, but it's also not nessicarily easy. Aside from the cons having to take down a Prime alt. Those are everywhere.
Has promise, I like the alt hunt theme. Problem is, I cant see any of the max/pred alts - are the ones you suggested geting a lot of use?

The other suggestion is to take down 4 characters from a hunter player from each of the other factions, making 12 in total, but the cross-gen mission issues may make that difficult.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:36 pm

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Psychout wrote:When the bounties become automated it'll be worth looking at variations like that, but when I add this it will just canel the bounty for now. That not to say counter-bounties cant be posted... :lol:

Absolute Zero wrote:Maybe taking leader alt modes? Preds have to take down a mammoth, lion, and ape, Maximals have to take down a T-Rex, dragon, and either the multi-dino alt or the 3 alts that make that up. It's not nessicarily hard, but it's also not nessicarily easy. Aside from the cons having to take down a Prime alt. Those are everywhere.
Has promise, I like the alt hunt theme. Problem is, I cant see any of the max/pred alts - are the ones you suggested geting a lot of use?

The other suggestion is to take down 4 characters from a hunter player from each of the other factions, making 12 in total, but the cross-gen mission issues may make that difficult.


I know there's a few Lio Convoy alts, but since I think they're heal only. There are some other leader Alts, but I don't really know what ones are being used by maximals.

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Starting off, I think hunters should have to accept a target and go after it. Let the hunted know who's after them, and let the other hunters know if anyone else is actually bothering with the bounty.

From this, Hunters can place wagers against each other. I can do this before you basically.

Say someone puts a bounty on Windstalker. Red says he'll accept it. I basically challenge Red, saying I can get it before he does, and bet 20k energon on it. If Red accepts the bet, then if I collected the bounty first, he'd owe me 20k. If he accepts and he gets the bounty first, then I'd owe him 20k.

Now, if Jeep wants to get in on it, he can challenge both of us, at the same 20k, or he can raise it. Same rules as before apply.

I got the idea from Red's challenge for people to hunt him.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Psychout » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:50 pm

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Absolute Zero wrote:I know there's a few Lio Convoy alts, but since I think they're heal only. There are some other leader Alts, but I don't really know what ones are being used by maximals.

Can you grab handful of the canon/leader alt images here for me? Zordon/Raph/Windstalker can you do the same? 5 or 6 of eavch ideally.

I'll check out the numbers, but I dont know enough about beast wars/machines to know canon from general wildlife im araid.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:12 pm

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Might take a while given that we can't see all of our alts, just the available ones.

*edit* What we have available right now

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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

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Maximals currently have the following. I'll update next Alt rotation

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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Name_Violation » Fri Feb 20, 2009 5:23 pm

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i like the idea of having to declare taking the bounty, but that leads to people not using a bot to keep fron getting caught

like i wouldn't use spaz if i knew there waas a bounty on my team, just to keep people from collecting
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Fri Feb 20, 2009 9:23 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:i like the idea of having to declare taking the bounty, but that leads to people not using a bot to keep fron getting caught

like i wouldn't use spaz if i knew there waas a bounty on my team, just to keep people from collecting


That would run counter to the spirit of the hunt. Doubly bad coming from a bounty hunter.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Burn » Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:27 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:i like the idea of having to declare taking the bounty, but that leads to people not using a bot to keep fron getting caught

like i wouldn't use spaz if i knew there waas a bounty on my team, just to keep people from collecting


I don't quite get what you're saying. If a person puts their hand up and says "I'm going to go after this target", I see it having little effect on the target.

If they're going to "hide", chances are they'd do it as soon as they see the bounty placed on them and not wait for an announcement to see who's coming for them.

Of course people going into "hiding" was a problem we expected from the start, not much we can do about it unless we publicly shame them and reveal the cowards they are. 8)
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:25 am

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And since Psychout asked for Transformer's bounty hunters, so I've found Axer (Action Master, I kinda liked him) Devcon (he's pretty famous right?), and Cybershark.

Do you have any idea how hard it is to search for characters by function? @_@
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Psychout » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:21 pm

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Would a better solution to be that all hunters have to add a relevant agreed alt to the team, and as an initiation, have to collect a group (7 or 8?) of them?

We just pick a core alt for each faction, designate it as the 'hunter alt' and make it mandatory for the hunter to have it on the team.


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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Redimus » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:34 pm

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Name_Violation wrote:i like the idea of having to declare taking the bounty, but that leads to people not using a bot to keep fron getting caught

like i wouldn't use spaz if i knew there waas a bounty on my team, just to keep people from collecting


Then you, my often short tempered friend, are an idiot.

Remember why I offered a bounty to the first autobot to take down my entire team? It was becuase myself, AZ, and Im sure you, were getting fed up of them hiding from us.

Bounty = more people wanting to kill you.
More people wanting to kill you = more people up against you in missions.
More people against you in missions is EXACTLY what we want right now...

Infact, Im tempted to put another bounty on my team for that express reason. Unfortunetly, I suspect it'd be a wasted gesture, as there simply aint the Maximals active right now, and the other factions are but fond memories.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Name_Violation » Sat Feb 21, 2009 6:42 pm

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Then you, my often short tempered friend, are an idiot.


Wow, pot calling the kettle black much?

any way there is a bounty on me (again :P ) but i was just sayin it as an example. the point was people keep comin after me but cant find that 1 bot so they keep comin.

i like the bounty on me, there are 3 ways to get it.

But really? is there a need for insults? thats just rude. i mean really it's uncalled for.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Psychout » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:25 pm

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Dont you two start. :lol:

The topic is improving the bounty hunting game, can we stick with it please?


N_V wrote:i like the bounty on me, there are 3 ways to get it.
Yea, Chaoslock thought that one out nicely. :APPLAUSE:
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Redimus » Sat Feb 21, 2009 7:30 pm

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Indeed, that was a good idea. I'd like to also aplaud N-V for putting that joint bounty up. Im wondering, am I able to add some of my one energon to the pot (should the money issues ever get fixed)?
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:14 pm

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Psychout wrote:Hmm, this may not work.

Image 9 active
Image only 2 active
Image Cant find any of this one in the first 5 pages.
The alts are out there, but there is too much choice. :lol:


Keep in mind, those are the only ones I can easily guess at out of our currently available ones.

Would a better solution to be that all hunters have to add a relevant agreed alt to the team, and as an initiation, have to collect a group (7 or 8?) of them?
We just pick a core for each faction , designate it as the 'hunter alt' and make it madatory for the hunter to have it on the team.
Think that might work?



That is a awesome idea actually. As long as the selected alts don't have a poopy tactics.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Psychout » Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:55 pm

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Absolute Zero wrote:Keep in mind, those are the only ones I can easily guess at out of our currently available ones.

It was the same for the maximals ones, too many alts, not enough users. It was worth a try though, cheers guys.



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Psychout wrote:Would a better solution to be that all hunters have to add a relevant agreed alt to the team, and as an initiation, have to collect a group (7 or 8?) of them?
We just pick a core for each faction , designate it as the 'hunter alt' and make it madatory for the hunter to have it on the team.
Think that might work?


That is a awesome idea actually. As long as the selected alts don't have a poopy tactics.

It would be chosen by you guys who are all involved players so I doubt they will be, but everyone needs to agree to create 1 dude of the same alt so they can be actively hunted. This is a kinda all-or-nothing concept here.

Can I get a show of hands for this idea please? Ill need all the hunters to agree on this, so if you can see a problem, please shout.


(This could also be used as a kind of 'selection' for new hunters if you want. If you guys want to challenge someone who could be a hunter, give them the list of hunter-specific alts and if they can get them all within a set time, they gain their licence?)
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:15 pm

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Couldn't we select 2-3 alts per faction and designate them as hunter alts? It'd be great if we could get them added to the data base under 'bounty hunter' class alts, but I know that's another pipe dream.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Name_Violation » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:22 pm

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Absolute Zero wrote:Couldn't we select 2-3 alts per faction and designate them as hunter alts? It'd be great if we could get them added to the data base under 'bounty hunter' class alts, but I know that's another pipe dream.

now that i like the sound of, a unique bountyhunter alt added (not gonna happen, but we can hope)

If we have to choose from existing alts can i recommend a predator-type for the preds, or a stong sea creature.

I specifically havent reset a few bots because of the alts not available, the alts fit a character theme in my head. but i can bite the bullete so to speak with an alt.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Psychout » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:32 pm

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Yeah, it'll have to be from the existing alts list for now.

Ill take those as a yes then.
Maybe you can chose a group of 3 if you guys want but we run the risk of overlap, and I wanna keep it as simple as possible so 1 alt per faction would be easier.

The rest of you?
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Absolute Zero » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:59 pm

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Overlapping between factions shouldn't be a big deal.

Uh... One problem, is this alt going to be available in V2 since the hunter licenses are going to carry over (they still are right?)
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Psychout » Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:14 am

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The alt will have to be re-chosen when V2 starts, but we can plan for it as long as we a can decide on this now.

And yes, licences will definately be carried over.
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby Raphael Prime » Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:18 am

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So then there will be a total of 4 "Hunter Alts" since of course every faction basically has a different set of alts.

If so, i nominate these two for the Maximals, Windstalker, Zordon, what you guys think?
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Re: How can we liven up the Bounty Hunting?

Postby The Chronic » Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:12 am

Psychout wrote:The rest of you?


I'll go along with that, suppose any hunter alt would be most logical
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