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how come?

Postby Optimus Primevil » Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:22 am

how is it that humans can take down giant sentient war machines from space(ok, a lot needed autobot help but blackout and devastator was pure human kills...though the devastator kill can still be debated because of the rail gun's 'origin') but can't handle home-grown war machines (terminator/power rangers RPM/the matrix/captain power and the soldiers of the future)?
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Re: how come?

Postby Red 50 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 4:42 am

Motto: "Never send an army to do a dinobot's job"
Weapon: Twin Sonic Cannons
Different continuities, probably.

EDIT: And just in case, I'll add - Blackout was killed by missiles shot by F-22's.
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Re: how come?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:36 pm

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
The rail gun didn't kill Devastator the fall off the pyramid did. Every fictional movie has it's own rules and laws of physics.
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Re: how come?

Postby Screamfleet » Sun Aug 28, 2011 8:53 pm

Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
Evil_the_Nub wrote:The rail gun didn't kill Devastator the fall off the pyramid did. Every fictional movie has it's own rules and laws of physics.


There's nothing in the movie that indicates this.
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Re: how come?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:05 pm

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
Screamfleet wrote:
Evil_the_Nub wrote:The rail gun didn't kill Devastator the fall off the pyramid did. Every fictional movie has it's own rules and laws of physics.


There's nothing in the movie that indicates this.

That's exactly what happened, watch it again. The rail gun blew his arm off which caused him to fall off. he came apart on the way down, that's what killed him.
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Re: how come?

Postby Screamfleet » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:17 pm

Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
Right, he came apart on the way down, as in he was dead during the fall, the fall didn't kill him. If the fall killed him, it would be the impact, not the weightlessness of falling.
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Re: how come?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:28 pm

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
Whatever, the landing killed him not the fall. It wasn't the rail gun that killed him.
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Re: how come?

Postby Screamfleet » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:01 am

Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
Again, no indication in the film that is the case. He gets like 1/3 his body blown off and then falls and his head falls off.
It seems pretty clear to me, he's dead as he falls, and the impact has no bearing on his death.
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Re: how come?

Postby Evil_the_Nub » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:22 am

Motto: "Feel free to die when you've had enough."
Weapon: Dark Saber Sword
Screamfleet wrote:Again, no indication in the film that is the case. He gets like 1/3 his body blown off and then falls and his head falls off.
It seems pretty clear to me, he's dead as he falls, and the impact has no bearing on his death.

The rail gun only shot his arm off causing him to fall down the side of the pyramid. As he fell he started to break apart, THAT is what killed him. His head came off and THEN his eyes go dark indicating he was dead.
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Re: how come?

Postby Screamfleet » Mon Aug 29, 2011 1:12 am

Weapon: Null-Ray Rifle
Well you can see it that way, I see him falling apart because his dead, not the cause of death.
If simmons said a dumb line like "twas the fall that killed the beast" I'd go with you, that shows writers intent, but it just seems to me, the rail gun did him in.
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