Transformers Ultimate Fansite
Submit News Contact Us Translate Sign in Join

How could machines evolve on their own?

There is more to Transformers than movies, cartoons, comics and toys. Discuss anything else Transformers here.

Moderators: robofreak, Supreme Convoy, Cyber Bishop

How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby JohnOfTardis67 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:41 am

Weapon: Cluster Bombs
Ok maybe not a good topic and one of little interest but I have often wondered with the advent of the TF movies and such the question of origin. How could a race of machines like the autobots and decepticons have actually evolved on their own? or did they actually have an original creator whether that was mechanical or organic? Again that sort of brings in a whole 'chicken and egg" kind of situation too.

Discuss..
JohnOfTardis67
Minibot
Posts: 142
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:24 pm
Buy from JohnOfTardis67 on eBay
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 5
Endurance: 8
Rank: 7
Courage: 7
Firepower: 8
Skill: 7

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby mechabot » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:13 am

Motto: ""A high speed pursuit is just my style""
Weapon: Shotgun
Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!
Megatron lives on in all ages of time and space!
mechabot
Micromaster
Posts: 87
Joined: Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:30 pm
Watch mechabot on YouTube
Strength: 2
Intelligence: 5
Speed: 8
Endurance: 2
Rank: 3
Courage: 2
Firepower: 4
Skill: 5

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby JohnOfTardis67 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:11 pm

Weapon: Cluster Bombs
mechabot wrote:Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!



I kind of knew about Primus and all that but didn't know the organics created Unicron. Why in the hell would they want to do that????

My post was more a discussion on "could a race of sentient machines evolve on their own?
JohnOfTardis67
Minibot
Posts: 142
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:24 pm
Buy from JohnOfTardis67 on eBay
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 5
Endurance: 8
Rank: 7
Courage: 7
Firepower: 8
Skill: 7

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby SlyTF1 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 8:57 pm

Motto: "Destruction is the ultimate freedom."
Weapon: Plasma Beam Rifle
I like to think of Cybertronians as organic machines.
The Game You lose
Image
User avatar
SlyTF1
City Commander
Posts: 3,339
News Credits: 4
Joined: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:34 am
Watch SlyTF1 on YouTube
Strength: 9
Intelligence: 10
Speed: 10+
Endurance: 9
Rank: 10
Courage: 8
Firepower: Infinity
Skill: 10+

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby JohnOfTardis67 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:18 pm

Weapon: Cluster Bombs
SlyTF1 wrote:I like to think of Cybertronians as organic machines.



How so?

In DOTM when Optimus ripped Megatron in half red hydraulic fluid spurted out. I guess that could be symbolic as blood but how organic?
JohnOfTardis67
Minibot
Posts: 142
Joined: Tue Nov 09, 2010 8:24 pm
Buy from JohnOfTardis67 on eBay
Strength: 5
Intelligence: 8
Speed: 5
Endurance: 8
Rank: 7
Courage: 7
Firepower: 8
Skill: 7

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby dinogeist » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:46 pm

mechabot wrote:Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!



Sir,where did you get this info from?? regarding organic beings creating both primus & unicron. then primus gaining sentinence because he became super smart.

Is this a fanfic of yours or something or someone elses fan fic??

According to the Simon Furman "ultimate guide" huge book. The "one" created both primus & unicron. unicron became evil because he was a imperfect being.

Mechabot,Please list your source info/material where you got this info you stated in your reply. because I never heard of it before. personally it sounds like un-official fanfic & not official info.
Last edited by dinogeist on Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:47 pm, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
dinogeist
Godmaster
Posts: 1,621
Joined: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:55 pm

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby Autobot032 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 10:47 pm

Weapon: Switch Blade Tail
JohnOfTardis67 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:I like to think of Cybertronians as organic machines.



How so?


This.

Autonomous robotic organisms is the phrase Prime used. None of that conveys organic. Other than their humanity and the fact that they're living, breathing creatures with souls.
NOTE: Realize that I am not a perfect Christian, nor do I profess to be. I apologize if anyone's ever offended by me, I'm not perfect. Don't hold my posts and opinions against other Christians.
Autobot032
News Crew
Posts: 7,774
News Credits: 28
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:51 am
Location: I don't know!
Buy from Autobot032 on eBay

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby JetOptimus23 » Wed Nov 09, 2011 11:56 pm

Motto: "Dare to be Stupid"
Weapon: Torque Rifle
I thought we cleared the Transformer's origin's up by now? They were created by the god Primus, who was created by the existential entity The One. Unicron was also created by The One. That is the generally accepted origin story in the fandom, AllSpark notwithstanding.
Image
PSN Name Kezilla. I PWN U N00BS! I mean, have a nice day

Currently on a quest to collect as many Unicron Trilogy toys as possible...maybe even complete the collection...
User avatar
JetOptimus23
Godmaster
Posts: 1,595
Joined: Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:30 am
Location: Deep in the Heart of Texas
Strength: 3
Intelligence: Infinity
Speed: 4
Endurance: 5
Rank: 7
Courage: 5
Firepower: 10+
Skill: 10+

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby Autobot032 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:15 am

Weapon: Switch Blade Tail
JetOptimus23 wrote:I thought we cleared the Transformer's origin's up by now? They were created by the god Primus, who was created by the existential entity The One. Unicron was also created by The One. That is the generally accepted origin story in the fandom, AllSpark notwithstanding.


I'll stick with the Allspark. Primus is played out in my world. I haven't geewunned in a long time.

EDIT: Dangit, where'd the rest of my post go?? =\ *sighs*

With Primus, the Allspark, all these continuities, it's just a mess to get one's head around anymore. With so many options and choices, I went with the Allspark, but I'm partial to the movieverse sooo...
NOTE: Realize that I am not a perfect Christian, nor do I profess to be. I apologize if anyone's ever offended by me, I'm not perfect. Don't hold my posts and opinions against other Christians.
Autobot032
News Crew
Posts: 7,774
News Credits: 28
Joined: Fri Oct 27, 2006 4:51 am
Location: I don't know!
Buy from Autobot032 on eBay

Re: How could machines evolve on their own?

Postby sto_vo_kor_2000 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:52 am

Motto: "Today is a good day to die......but the day is not yet over!"
mechabot wrote:Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!

and you came by this info how?
as far as I know, none of it is official
Predaprince wrote:I am very thankful to have posters like sto_vo_kor_2000 who is so energetic about improving others' understanding and enjoyment of the TF universe
Stormrider wrote:You often add interesting insights to conversations that makes the fledglings think and challenges even the sharpest minds

T-Macksimus wrote:I consider you and editor to be amongst the most "scholarly" in terms of your knowledge, demeanor and general approach

Image
sto_vo_kor_2000
Guardian Of Seibertron
Posts: 6,803
News Credits: 1
Joined: Sat Oct 15, 2005 1:01 am

Next

Return to Transformers General Discussion

robofreak, Supreme Convoy, Cyber Bishop

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

Twincast / Podcast #68
Twincast / Podcast #68:
"ReChrome"
MP3 · iTunes · RSS · View · Discuss · Ask
Posted: Thursday, May 16th, 2013