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Ok maybe not a good topic and one of little interest but I have often wondered with the advent of the TF movies and such the question of origin. How could a race of machines like the autobots and decepticons have actually evolved on their own? or did they actually have an original creator whether that was mechanical or organic? Again that sort of brings in a whole 'chicken and egg" kind of situation too.

Discuss..

Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!

mechabot wrote:Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!

I kind of knew about Primus and all that but didn't know the organics created Unicron. Why in the hell would they want to do that????

My post was more a discussion on "could a race of sentient machines evolve on their own?

I like to think of Cybertronians as organic machines.

SlyTF1 wrote:I like to think of Cybertronians as organic machines.

How so?

In DOTM when Optimus ripped Megatron in half red hydraulic fluid spurted out. I guess that could be symbolic as blood but how organic?

mechabot wrote:Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!

Sir,where did you get this info from?? regarding organic beings creating both primus & unicron. then primus gaining sentinence because he became super smart.

Is this a fanfic of yours or something or someone elses fan fic??

According to the Simon Furman "ultimate guide" huge book. The "one" created both primus & unicron. unicron became evil because he was a imperfect being.

Mechabot,Please list your source info/material where you got this info you stated in your reply. because I never heard of it before. personally it sounds like un-official fanfic & not official info.

JohnOfTardis67 wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I like to think of Cybertronians as organic machines.

How so?

This.

Autonomous robotic organisms is the phrase Prime used. None of that conveys organic. Other than their humanity and the fact that they're living, breathing creatures with souls.

I thought we cleared the Transformer's origin's up by now? They were created by the god Primus, who was created by the existential entity The One. Unicron was also created by The One. That is the generally accepted origin story in the fandom, AllSpark notwithstanding.

JetOptimus23 wrote:I thought we cleared the Transformer's origin's up by now? They were created by the god Primus, who was created by the existential entity The One. Unicron was also created by The One. That is the generally accepted origin story in the fandom, AllSpark notwithstanding.

I'll stick with the Allspark. Primus is played out in my world. I haven't geewunned in a long time.

EDIT: Dangit, where'd the rest of my post go?? =\ *sighs*

With Primus, the Allspark, all these continuities, it's just a mess to get one's head around anymore. With so many options and choices, I went with the Allspark, but I'm partial to the movieverse sooo...

mechabot wrote:Primus "the god of transformers" created the cybertronian race known to most as the transformers.
howevere primus is also a robot and he is the planet cybertron.

Primus was created by an advanced organic alien race. he was meant to be a super space station.
but he became sentient due to his level of artificail intelligence. he was then left behind by those organic aliens... they likely became extinct. of maybe they were all killed of by their other super space station... the evil Unicron... the devil of transformers, and the brother of Primus... Unicron... the creator of the minicon race. designed to destroy primus.

so... trnaformers did not evolve on their own... they were built by other "God" robots.. who were built by a now extinct organic alein race.

much like the death star! of cousre it never became sentiant... or did it? Mwahaahha!

and you came by this info how?
as far as I know, none of it is official