Rated X wrote:Ok lets have some fun here. Lets take a break from traditional MOTU style Pretender shells and PWTT style brain farts...
How would you guys like to see an "update" made for these Pretenders ?
Gauntlet101010 wrote: Maybe small deluxe. At least for the regular minions.
Tsutsukakushi wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote: Maybe small deluxe. At least for the regular minions.
Think the bigger toy class you go for the inner robot. Translates into a more hollowed out inside Pretender shell. Which would make a Transforming Mega Pretender shell impossible. It would also present more challenges on the designers to create a fully articulated shell
The bigger toy class the inner robot is. means the pretender shell needs to be bigger to fit the inner robot.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Tsutsukakushi wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote: Maybe small deluxe. At least for the regular minions.
Think the bigger toy class you go for the inner robot. Translates into a more hollowed out inside Pretender shell. Which would make a Transforming Mega Pretender shell impossible. It would also present more challenges on the designers to create a fully articulated shell
The bigger toy class the inner robot is. means the pretender shell needs to be bigger to fit the inner robot.
Not if you have less a full shell and more armor. Unless we're fine with the shells being static statues.
Minicons just aren't worth it. A solution involving a minicon just isn't worth it. Maybe at Hasbro prices, but not at 3rd party. Even as a kid I bought Transformers for the transformable ROBOT. If I wanted a neat monster toy I'd get MotU or TMNT.
That's why most of my solutions involve using the inner robot to provide articulation instead of having fully articulated shells.
Actually, now that I'm remembering I posted the Trans scanning movie toys a few posts back. That might make an ideal beast Pretender. You can just swap out the beast bits for robot bits to fully satisfy both modes.
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Minicons, all on their own, aren't really good transformers. You wouldn't buy a static shell, well, I wouldn't buy a mini-con. Not for 3rd party prices, anyway.
Or maybe I would, but I wouldn't really feel too jazzed about it.
Minicons are not a one-size-fits-all solution. And it isn't really clever, either. Maybe Hasbro clever, but not 3rd party prices clever.
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Rated X wrote:What I think would work best is the opposite of what PWTT did. I would like to see a fully articulated robot that transforms with clip on armor that makes him look like a robotic beast. The armor could become part of the alt mode. Im not sure what to do with it when the robot is not wearing it.
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fenrir72 wrote:@ Amelie
The Mega and Ultra Pretenders of old have implemented some of your suggestion of having a smaller 'bot within the shell.Thunderwing and the other helicopter guy.
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Amelie wrote:fenrir72 wrote:@ Amelie
The Mega and Ultra Pretenders of old have implemented some of your suggestion of having a smaller 'bot within the shell.Thunderwing and the other helicopter guy.
My pic above actually was, roughly, Crossblades as I was looking at it when I thought of it. Just make all the Pretenders like Thunderwing, Crossblades, ECT then you've got more transformation options when it comes to shell\bot
Autobots Pretenders are supposed to be in disguise, right? So why would the shell which would be huge be the human part (The Marvel comics did some excellent jokes about that)? I can understand it in the 80s, because they wouldn't have had the engineering to make an articulated "human" that somehow turned into a Transformer. I think the Japanese anime got the basic idea right - small human with "surprise, I'm a huge robot" schtick.
So if a 3rd party did make a Pretender - I'd want a smaller Pretender part and a larger "Transformer"
rpetras wrote:Wouldn't that be closer to the concept of a power master or Headmaster?
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