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how would you introduce the dinobots into the movieverse?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 12:45 pm
by Optimus Primevil
though i would love to see the dinobots on the big screen, i'll be just fine if the powers that be decide they don't like giant mechanical dinosaur robots in their film, but how would you put them in the film?

my concept is that grimlock and his band (while i would love to have their g1 names, at least one of them ain't be having that) was a vicious fighting force that disappeared without a trace and popular myth (or is it propaganda) has it that they're slagging decepticons wherever they find them. fast forward in the present and they're found here on earth (insert which cliche is most suitable: encased in ice, tar pit, statis pod...) and autobot morale would shoot through the roof that they've got such heavy hitters on their side. the twist is, that while tales of the dinobots as ass-kickers were true, they're not exactly the most virtuous of warriors, they're just vicious killers who go wiping out all life on one planet and repeating the process ad infinitum until they got stopped on earth (by who, i don't know yet, but i has to be pretty bad-ass to be able to stop them albeit temporarily). so the film's advertised big bad either a. dies at the hands of the dinobots b. leaves the earth (along with all decepticon forces) so grimlock and co would do their dirty work for them c. help prime to destroy the dinobots

it's optional to have the dinobots turn into the beast or not (though it's best if the beast has other gestalts to destroy). the teaser at the end would reveal who stopped the dinobots on earth (i've thinked about it and it boils to either movieverse omega supreme/fortress maximus or scorponok/idw styled thunderwing).

so that's my version, how about yours?

Re: how would you introduce the dinobots into the movieverse?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 12:26 am
by G1 Smoketreader
I think a skeletal version of the Dinobots would look very good with the Movieverse aesthetic, so I would consider crashing them (that is-having them drop to Earth as Comet-things) into a Museum.

Most easily to explain them, I would have them be a communal group who have been hanging out on a planet together since the "big scattering". With Grimlock as journey leader (if not overall community chieftain-others might still be left behind) they would travel to Earth after having picked up Primes missive from Movie 1 (time choice used to highlight BIG distance). As for their intelligence, I might make them former worker drones who became feral on their new homeworld. Truth be told this is the bit that I'd discuss the most with other writers.

I don't know if I would let the viewer count them as good guys immediately if I made them skeletal (for suspense), tho I would defenitely make them extra large and extra temperemental. I think I would want to have them rock up to trash a Decepticon big bad right at the end with express intent of (trying to) get a cheer out of the audience and have them Gee the Dbots on.

I know I would want Swoop in because I've always adored that toy. I would want the Stegasaur to be able to use his steg-plates to somehow charge up either with extra energon or sunlight, and I would surely want the Brontosaur to be immense with a thunderous step.

Since I'm a sucker for Dinobot toys, I would get a little underhanded and write in that a whole bunch of toaster-oven-to-fridge sized bots arrive with the biggies and become little packs of similar looking scavengersaurs, as well as the odd prehistoric insects and seaside life (crabs etc). This would be my naughty attempt to try and 'magic up' a whole new Dbot line for Hasbro to want to carry forward.

I might even invent new biggies, but perhaps leave them out of the group
(of "the big five" )that finally join Grimlock to help Optimus. Leaving them out might increase demand and fan attention, as appears to have happened with Jolt et al, and create more 'hot property' for Hasbro to want to carry as a line.
Among the new biggies I'd look for what gaps need filling. The Ankylosaurus is one that immediately jumps to mind.

At endgame I'd have Prime very grateful, the Humans shitscared of Dinobots as Citizens in the mall and the Dinobots primarily interested in Energon and not joining any other community. I think I would end the movie/story with the Dinobots preferring solitude.

I would not be in favor of giving them the Movieverse butt-faces, and would do what I could to ask the CGI creators to design the Dinobots by stripping the G1 model to what it might look like as a Protoform, then have them rebuild the movieverse model based on that.

I would be upset if they were given 8 legs, wheels for legs,etc in Bot Mode but not if their Dino mode could manifest rollerskates or mini rocket boosters or something adrenaline-y like that.

Re: how would you introduce the dinobots into the movieverse?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 1:49 am
by G1 Smoketreader
Alternative Storyboard.

(Note I'd use 2 sets of 'politics', which I feel that I must: 1 is that the Dbots are being threatened with extinction from Hasbro & I would try to ressurect.The other is my belief that the films should let lots of writer/Director teams do whatever they feel like but all should try to delay the arrivall of Unicron-but confirm he exists).

So,
A bunch of basic laborers escape C/Tron during the Exodus. Most are comparitively menial in programming. A group of 'proper' Autobot Soldiers first existed with them (as a military evacuation escort) but these are all long since dead).

These Laborers planet-hop & eventually find a planet to call home, tho this particular one is only shown for flashbacks' sake, it's unremarkable: A poorly developed Giant Planet..the laborers effectively become Tribal Energon harvesters.

Efforts have been made for a Decep ship or mission group to tail every Autobot ship during the exodus. These workers and their Abot escort are eventually hunted down and the soldiers are killed off tho the workers eventually finish off the Deceps. A small group of Decep Elite perhaps led by someone infamous such as Lockdown could be discussed in flashback, statement being "there are far too few of them now to attack us directly, haven't seen them for aeons, tho we find signs of them.We know they're still there".

At some point, the workers begin attempts to raise Hatchlings again. This gradually becomes more successful, the result being 50/50 by the time of the Dinobot movie story.

The Tribe picks up Primes message to congregate on Earth and a large group leaves as an expeditionary party or devout pilgrimage. The rest who stay behind either don't want to go, are undivided or are too weak for some undiscussed reason (that another writer/director team can capitalize on if desired).

The ship they use is a combiiner of the 4 largest willing bots. Size is needed for the massive Energon stores required for the journey. All 4 die (of starvation) by the time they reach our solar system and the rest finish the journey in comet-thing form.

After having passed Saturn they are attacked by Decepticons they hadn't detected. (Note they pass Saturn around the time of either movie 2 or 3). Weapons are few on the Tribes' side, so individual members Transform in mid flight in order to tackle tailing Deceps (who can be hinted at being the missing Seekers assigned to Starscream). In this way, a part of the main migration/expedition survives, and a reason is placed as to why Deceps should be attacked later.

One Decep fires a blast weapon of some type into the cluster of refugees who are escaping. A fair few are hit tho none explode. The graphics imply contamination of some type.

Carrying on with plot in previous post: crash into Museum, big Dinobots, small Dinobots, only one group is looking & acting Zombielike. The two Dinobot groups immediately go to war.

When Prime & company eventually rock up & get a chance to kill & inspect, Ratchet determines that "it looks like some kind of altered Energon but doesn't behave like it can be realtered).

Them you get a big Zombie fight with Prime & his folks being tiny Sam & Mikaela caught up in a BIG robot fight.

Like I said-politics: not what I would want to write, but what I think would allow Hasbro to sell each Dinobot twice (one pure, one Zombie) and therefore let the line stay alive.

Other writers can later elect to pick up invent & place survivors for the Decepticon ranks if they decide it would work.

Re: how would you introduce the dinobots into the movieverse?

PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:39 am
by MightyMagnus78
A group of primitive Cybertronian Energon seekers lead by the tyrannical Trypticon crashes on Earth 65 million years ago.

Unable to survive in the harsh Cretaceous conditions as protoforms, they are forced to adopt Dinosaur alt modes and convert their power cores to run from solar power. However most don't survive and by the time of the Chicxulub impact only Trypticon and five others remain.

After a short period their systems become adversely effected by deadly acid rain(caused by the impact) and they start to shut down and eventually they are buried in a landslide and lost 'forever'.

They are discovered by a group of amiture archaeologists in the badlands, after prolonged exposure to sunlight Tyripticon awakens and goes on the rampage. He destroys Tokyo and Autobots are called in to take care of the situation. Inevitably they fail. Prime is force to reactivate the rest of the Dinobots and appeals to their once second in command, a known (slightly reluctant) Autobot sympathiser the mighty Grimlock.

Re: how would you introduce the dinobots into the movieverse?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:43 am
by MasterSoundBlaster
Fall of cybertron Dinobot story...with a twist:

Shockwave or other Con Scientist created 3 all-mighty Gestalts for the Decepticon cause BEFORE the events of DOTM. Here he made Devastator and the Constructicons,Bruticus and the Combaticons,and was finishing up his final touches for Extinction and the Lightning Collalition when Megatron called forth his plan for bringing the cons to earth. yada yada yada...

The decepticons all prepared for the invasion but the scientist still wanted to finish his mad experiment,so he captured 5 autobot laborers. In his experiments,he dramatically increased their strength,endurance,and Combat skills. Megatron got wind of these experiments and demanded they be put in with the upcoming invasion. The scientist believed they were not ready and still needed more "Brain" development before they were COmbat ready. So in an effort to hide his creation(s) from Megatron,he shipped the bots off-world in stasis pods (since that what cybertronians always seem to do with their valuables) hoping to find and finish his work on a later day and away from Megatron.

Now the pod is flying lazily threw space for years...Catch up to a few years after prior movie event,and the pod starts to enter Mars' atmosphere. NASA tracks the pod and moves the Mars Rover over to investigate. Optimus gets word of weird Cybertronian pod on Mars since I'm hoping after the events of DOTM,the government and autobots have a better sense of communication,and takes a new spaceship (Ark II or Omega Shuttle) to mars with some new autobot warriors and investigate.

On Mars,Optimus and co. inspect the pod and load it up on the ship for futher study on Earth. (I.E. Ratchet can inspect) Here it is "Accidently" reactivated and begins to re-animate the "Dinobots." A hidden tracking devise also activates and alerts the creator (now leading the cons momentarly) that his creations are reactivated. He begins a conquest to find them along with the Combaticons.

Back on earth,the 5 new warriors are confused to what is going on and how long they have been gone. But they recognized Optimus is the Prime and begin to catch up. Someone makes a smirky comment that these new guys are Big,bulky,beasts with a simpilized brain strucure (Ratchet evalutes this fact) and says they are like modern day Dinosaurs. Grimlock,stands up (and because he is simple brained) Likes the sound of these autobot/Dinosaurs So he announces the group as the "Dynobots." Then Optimus goes out with the Dynobots to find them alt. modes. Because these guys are massive sized,they cannot properly aquire the stardard car and truck alt modes Optimus hoped for. So now the Government steps in and lines up an assortment of compatiable Heavy-armored warmachines. They Dynobots scan themselves new alt modes and get pesonalized with new colors and special decals a little afterwards.(Standard Dinobot Grey,Red,Yellow,and Black i'm thinking)

Then the scientist comes to town,raises some hell,yada yada yada...
Yeah thats the main point point though,I'm tired and out of Ideas now so sorry for the horrible conclusion there.

Re: how would you introduce the dinobots into the movieverse?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:15 pm
by TulioDude
I would make them a a group of Autobots that doesnt follow anyone orders.

Re: how would you introduce the dinobots into the movieverse?

PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:35 pm
by rickdon
I feel as though they could introduce them as accidental revivals or something? Like during a fight? Not sure. But Michael Bay would probably make them show up with some kind of explosion for sure.