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Finally watched DOTM last weekend and I found myself checking the clock more than once..that's how I know it was a bad movie. Now, I wasn't expecting Shakespeare up on the screen, but is a quality movie representing this popular brand so much to ask for?

I knew the live-action movies were going to be bad a soon as Bay was on board for the first one. His movies are all the same: fast paced fluff, over-the-top special effects, and enough general screen clutter to make one sick.

As a die-hard TF fan since the early '80s, I made myself like the first movie, and it was clearly the best effort of the three. DOTM was a disappointment, but not a surprise. It simply was not a good film, let alone a good TF film.

The only saving grace of these travesties is that they have brought a huge amount of $$$ and recognition for the brand.

DOTM was a quality movie. As were the rest. You just didn't like them. As long as you can accept that your dislike for the movies are just your opinion then thats fine.
You are right as they do not represent the highest marks in cinimea, but they never were supposed to. They were meant to entertain and concidering the revenue the movies made, it did just that. And while i know you and others might try the aurgument..
"Just cause it made alot of money doesn't mean its good".
Well i bet the majority that saw it (not to meantion the people who saw it multiple times in theaters) would beg to differ. But to reconise this you need to accept a few things...
1.-These movies were not made for fans. They were made for the general public. A fan oriented movie might do well straight to DVD, but not in the box office. Speaking of fans, there were so many shout outs to the fans in DOTM, but the "Fanboys" still want to bitch and complain. Its no wonder that the general public is put first.
2.-These movies were meant to entertain. Not have doctor Phil heart to heart moments.
3.-You say that all Bay's movies are nothing but fast paced over the top special affects. That's what you need in a live action TF movie. Since the 80's that's what TF has always been about. The stories have never been strong. Certainly no better than the movies.

But to be honest your opinion is set. nothing I say or anyone else is going to change your mind anyhow. I just hope this doesn't turn into yet another bay bash thread.

5150 Cruiser wrote:DOTM was a quality movie. As were the rest. You just didn't like them. As long as you can accept that your dislike for the movies are just your opinion then thats fine.
You are right as they do not represent the highest marks in cinimea, but they never were supposed to. They were meant to entertain and concidering the revenue the movies made, it did just that. And while i know you and others might try the aurgument..
"Just cause it made alot of money doesn't mean its good".
Well i bet the majority that saw it (not to meantion the people who saw it multiple times in theaters) would beg to differ. But to reconise this you need to accept a few things...
1.-These movies were not made for fans. They were made for the general public. A fan oriented movie might do well straight to DVD, but not in the box office. Speaking of fans, there were so many shout outs to the fans in DOTM, but the "Fanboys" still want to bitch and complain. Its no wonder that the general public is put first.
2.-These movies were meant to entertain. Not have doctor Phil heart to heart moments.
3.-You say that all Bay's movies are nothing but fast paced over the top special affects. That's what you need in a live action TF movie. Since the 80's that's what TF has always been about. The stories have never been strong. Certainly no better than the movies.
But to be honest your opinion is set. nothing I say or anyone else is going to change your mind anyhow. I just hope this doesn't turn into yet another bay bash thread.

Agreed.

I know, we all have our own opinions...but the movies still suck.

Just hoping for a little more substance for the fans the next time around, and I'm sure there will be a next time.

I was hoping for a little more substance from this thread, but you know ... same ol stuff we've heard a million times before.

I didn't really like them a whole lot, just for the sole fact they kinda focused more on the Humans than they really did the Bots. I mean, I'd rather see Transformers like it's shown in the Cartoons, and have very little human-plot scenes in it. But hey, I guess that's Hollywood for ya.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. That being said, threads like this don't last long. I have a feeling this will not end well.

I've been a TF fan since 1984 and you know what,Bay TF movies do suck. If Hollywood is going to make Transformer movies and spend millions and millions of dollars they should have made them right. Epic blockbusters with less humans, more bots, serious tone, not comedy, and the movies should be for adults and the cartons for the kids. Period!

IMO the movies weren't that bad, sure they have their faults, but what were you expecting from an action movie?

I really wish some people would realize we no longer live in 1984. Mainstream Hollywood only make films to make money, therefore these films are made to appeal to a broader demographic rather than a bunch of collectors.

Broody Cuss wrote:Finally watched DOTM last weekend and I found myself checking the clock more than once..that's how I know it was a bad movie. Now, I wasn't expecting Shakespeare up on the screen, but is a quality movie representing this popular brand so much to ask for?

I knew the live-action movies were going to be bad a soon as Bay was on board for the first one. His movies are all the same: fast paced fluff, over-the-top special effects, and enough general screen clutter to make one sick.

As a die-hard TF fan since the early '80s, I made myself like the first movie, and it was clearly the best effort of the three. DOTM was a disappointment, but not a surprise. It simply was not a good film, let alone a good TF film.

The only saving grace of these travesties is that they have brought a huge amount of $$$ and recognition for the brand.

5150 Cruiser wrote:DOTM was a quality movie. As were the rest. You just didn't like them. As long as you can accept that your dislike for the movies are just your opinion then thats fine.
You are right as they do not represent the highest marks in cinimea, but they never were supposed to. They were meant to entertain and concidering the revenue the movies made, it did just that. And while i know you and others might try the aurgument..
"Just cause it made alot of money doesn't mean its good".
Well i bet the majority that saw it (not to meantion the people who saw it multiple times in theaters) would beg to differ. But to reconise this you need to accept a few things...
1.-These movies were not made for fans. They were made for the general public. A fan oriented movie might do well straight to DVD, but not in the box office. Speaking of fans, there were so many shout outs to the fans in DOTM, but the "Fanboys" still want to bitch and complain. Its no wonder that the general public is put first.
2.-These movies were meant to entertain. Not have doctor Phil heart to heart moments.
3.-You say that all Bay's movies are nothing but fast paced over the top special affects. That's what you need in a live action TF movie. Since the 80's that's what TF has always been about. The stories have never been strong. Certainly no better than the movies.

But to be honest your opinion is set. nothing I say or anyone else is going to change your mind anyhow. I just hope this doesn't turn into yet another bay bash thread.

I gonna have to agree with the original poster called "Broody Cuss".

IMHO,The three TF Live action movies were awful because as follows: (1) they were way too long,watching a awful movie for almost 3 hours is pure torture. it's only worth watching a "almost 3 hour movie" if the actual movie is awesome & not awful. (2) The dialogue in the Three TF live action movies was the worst part. it felt like most of the dialogue was outdatted & came from outdatted eras like the 1950's,1960's 1970,1980's & so forth. (3) i'm not a fan of making fun of stero types & these three live action movies had tons of this. (4) the starring core list of actors/actresses talent was the worst I've ever seen jammed into a singular movie. SADLY while the talentless amatures got the most screen time & dialogue. the actors/actresses in these three live action movies with the most talent & experience got very little screen time. (5) the whole reason why everyone went to go see these three live action TF movies was because the robots transformers. Sadly the robots got very little dialogue & most robots were lucky to speak a sentence of dialogue in the movies. seeing the humans get the most dialogue lines & scenes JUST SEEMED WRONG. (6) These three TF live action movies weren't told from a robots transformers point of view,they were told from a humans points of view. (7) Shia la bouf,IMHO,Is a horrible actor,he ruined every scene he was in,in all three live action TF movies. Shia doesn't know how to properly express the emotions he's told to express in these movies. to make matters worse Shia is a "OVER-ACTOR" Similar to jim carrey. Shia often ruins some scenes because he over-acts & gets over the top scarred,yells too much,cries too much. worse of all Shia ruined some scenes by being super conceited by acting over Macho. .