cotss2012 wrote:Hey, you know what? It seems like the people who hate the Bayformers movies point out fairly objective ways in which they suck (stories are poorly structured, too many useless human characters, no emotional investment in any of the robot characters, ethnic stereotypes, etc.), while those who defend the movies are limited to saying "but they made epic moneys!" and "yeah, well, you know, that's just like, uh, your opinion, man".
Guess which group the critics agree with.
The critics can say what they want. Didn't stop me from seeing each film multiple times in theaters and buying them on DVD and Blu-Ray. Many others did the same. Fans and non fans alike.
Some of what the critics have said was true, some, but not all. Some hate on autopilot and aren't even willing to look at the positives, at all.
They seem to forget that this is science FICTION, and it makes them look whiny and stupid when they say "Oh, it has this outlandish and silly plot involving the space race and goes downhill from there." ...it's supposed to be outlandish. That's part of the whole deal. And if a ship did crash on the Moon, we'd be bustin' our humps to get up there. This one was more in touch with reality than the last two.
First movie: A cube brings life to technology and they need a pair of glasses to find it. Robots, the title characters, had little screen time. Critics thought it was neat. Did well at the box office.
Second movie: Their version of Satan uses Megatron to kill Optimus, the last Prime, so they can activate a giant death ray to harvest energy. Robots had far more screen time and incredible visuals. Critics hated it, said the robots weren't discernible, it borrowed elements from the coveted and precious G1. (Those elements were what the critics hated, btw) Broke records, did phenomenally well at the box office.
Third movie: Megatron was actually the mastermind behind everything, let everyone else carry the burden. An alien ship crashes on the Moon, we go to investigate it. (this is the most realistic scenario offered in the trilogy, thus far.) The Autobots are sabotaged by one of their own, kicked off the planet and selflessly come to our rescue when they could've kept running. Some of the best action sequences ever recorded on film, CGI that looked breathtakingly real and 3D that rivaled, or was better than, Avatar. Broke records, is in the top 5 domestic moneymakers of all time, and critics still crapped all over it.
Can you honestly sit there and tell me they're right? If you can, then I'm clearly wasting my time and this post to you will be my first and last. Because you're willingly ignoring facts and unwilling to respect the opinions of others. Though, most of what I posted here was fact. Here's opinion for you: I think the first movie sucks.
JetOptimus23 wrote:Can't we just enjoy Transformers Prime and stop bitching about the movies...please?
I can enjoy Prime and
**** about the movies, especially considering how vastly superior the former is to the latter. I mean that sincerely; if we had gotten a shot-for-shot, word-for-word live-action version of Darkness Rising in '07 instead of "Mumblebee pisses on John Turturro", I would have called it the best movie ever.
You can, yes. Doesn't mean anyone wants to hear it. After a while of hearing it a million times from millions of others, we don't need a million and one. Instead of bitching and retreading old paths, why don't you blaze a new one and come up with positive ideas that could be embraced instead of crapping all over everyone's happiness?
Darkness Rising was good, but "best movie ever" material? No. Yes, no doubt it would've been better than what the first film turned out to be, I can't deny that, but it certainly wasn't fodder for the best movie ever. It still had that Orci & Kurtzman feel to it. They were one of the biggest problems with the franchise.
5150 Cruiser wrote:TF has never had strong story telling.
Go watch "Fire in the Sky" and "Code of Hero" in an infinite loop until the Common Sense Fairy comes and hits you on the head.
Wow. What a pleasant attitude. Just because he's voicing an opinion, doesn't mean he lacks common sense. And you haven't the right to state such a thing. I can see you're going to run afoul of a lot of people. It's one thing to have and share an opinion, it's another to be rude about it and shove it down people's throats.
Fire In The Sky? Meh. It was alright, better than some, worse than others. Code Of Hero? I'll give you that one. But that's ONE. There's a list of episodes of TF that are just awful, and wrote the book on how to be awful.
5150 Cruiser wrote:ROTF was proabably the worst of the 3, but you know what? It was the one that probabaly was based the most on TF mytho's.
NONE of the movies had ANYTHING to do with the TF mythos, although DotM borrowed a few plot points from The Ultimate Doom and Megatron's Master Plan.
Incorrect. Absolutely incorrect. You seem to be missing a very important point: This was intended to be a reboot. This was intended to be it's own universe. It was supposed to start it's own mythos. We whined and complained and went on and on and they caved and borrowed from G1 and look what it got us. The first movie was boring, the second one was outlandish and the third one, somehow miraculously, pulled it off.
Blinders are for horses, not people. Take off your's and put down your glass of Haterade.
5150 Cruiser wrote:
cotss2012 wrote:NONE of the movies had ANYTHING to do with the TF mythos, .
Thats just not true man. And if you honestly believe that then there's no basis for anything you say.
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