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Hmm. I might be interested, if I didn't know it's going to be beyond my budget. If iGear could match FP's prices, I'd be all over their recent stuff. Even if it is a bit more KO.

I just hope the quality control is better than the Kup heads were. Of coarse, I think the problem was directly related to the cygar being fuzed to his mouth as opposed to being molded together. Then again, I'm the only person this seems to have happened to.

That aside, Impactor is a must for me. Drift got friggin lucky, but Impactor does not have the benefit of being a "Space Samurai". To be honest, the parts of him that are knocked off from Warpath already kinda looked that way on his original design.

I wonder if the worn look in the cg renders will carry over to the figure? I am loving this shhhtuff right here!

Now we're complaining about PARTS being knocked off? Seriously? It's not even parts in itself, it's about parts that transform the same way. It's called using a "similar transformation scheme". If the engineering works, why is it a crime to if they don't re-invent the wheel? And it only punctuates how HasTak totally could make this guy in budget.

Excellent job. I will be getting one.

Requiem Prime wrote:Now we're complaining about PARTS being knocked off? Seriously? It's not even parts in itself, it's about parts that transform the same way. It's called using a "similar transformation scheme". If the engineering works, why is it a crime to if they don't re-invent the wheel? And it only punctuates how HasTak totally could make this guy in budget.

yup. There are only so many ways to make a car or tank shaped thing become a humanoid robot shaped thing. Hell most of the cars in G1 had one of maybe 3 different transformation styles.

craggy wrote:yup. There are only so many ways to make a car or tank shaped thing become a humanoid robot shaped thing. Hell most of the cars in G1 had one of maybe 3 different transformation styles.

G1 cars either had front-end of car for chest or roof of car as chest. Similar transformation I can deal with. Blatantly stealing designs worries me. Keep in mind I don't care if someone makes money from Has/Tak work, what DOES worry me is Has/Tak getting pissed and making a move to stop the 3rd party revolution. I love me some 3rd party products and I don't want some greedy company ruining it for the others and ultimately, us fans.

I can deal with iGear borrowing parts from HasTak. What is the likelyhood of HasTak giving us an Impactor figure as good as this? At best, we would have gotten a retool of Warpath. Instead, we get a (mostly) original Impactor that does him justice.

3rd party toymakers are only a problem when they blatantly copy designs and steal profits from the real developers. I don't think they're doing that in this case. I'm glad iGear is finally turning it around.

wowzers. that is just too awesome. i love the battle and aged look that he has. i hope the rest are as good as this guy.

Dead Metal wrote:F**k yea iGear!

I bet 4 months back you'd never have imagined you'd be saying that about iGear.

craggy wrote:

Requiem Prime wrote:Now we're complaining about PARTS being knocked off? Seriously? It's not even parts in itself, it's about parts that transform the same way. It's called using a "similar transformation scheme". If the engineering works, why is it a crime to if they don't re-invent the wheel? And it only punctuates how HasTak totally could make this guy in budget.

yup. There are only so many ways to make a car or tank shaped thing become a humanoid robot shaped thing. Hell most of the cars in G1 had one of maybe 3 different transformation styles.

I know, right? Why do the other 3rd Party companies even bother doing their own original designs? ****, why does HasTak bother doing any new molds at this point when they can just copy their vast résumé of past designs? Just copying **** and charging out the ass for it = win!

While admittedly this guy looks cool...it's beyond weak that it's just a souped-up KO. I mean, if they want to pass on the savings of not having all those R&D costs and this fig is only $25 like a KO seeker...so be it, but part of what makes these 3rd Party figs worth the exorbitant price is the amazing design and engineering these no-name people are pulling off and in limited quantities. Count me in the minority that's glad I don't give two craps about the Wreckers and don't find this a must have.

*To be fair, we don't yet know the price of this figure...but I fully expect it to be in the $60-80 range (or even $100+ like their Arcee.) If it proves to be $25-30, then I'll happily retract my rant.

Mkall wrote:

Dead Metal wrote:F**k yea iGear!

I bet 4 months back you'd never have imagined you'd be saying that about iGear.

4 months ago the "yea" would have been a "you"

iGear rather quickly went from "F*** them!" to "F*** yeah!" I will admit to the hate myself but the Kup head turned it around.

Though if nothing else it just shows that "Wrecker Love > iGear Hate".

I'm actually more impressed with the Minbots but if iGear actually follows through on all this stuff I'll be eating my words and buying pretty much the lot - sorry Fansproject!! I still love you too......

Kibble wrote:

craggy wrote:

Requiem Prime wrote:Now we're complaining about PARTS being knocked off? Seriously? It's not even parts in itself, it's about parts that transform the same way. It's called using a "similar transformation scheme". If the engineering works, why is it a crime to if they don't re-invent the wheel? And it only punctuates how HasTak totally could make this guy in budget.

yup. There are only so many ways to make a car or tank shaped thing become a humanoid robot shaped thing. Hell most of the cars in G1 had one of maybe 3 different transformation styles.

I know, right? Why do the other 3rd Party companies even bother doing their own original designs? ****, why does HasTak bother doing any new molds at this point when they can just copy their vast résumé of past designs? Just copying **** and charging out the ass for it = win!

While admittedly this guy looks cool...it's beyond weak that it's just a souped-up KO. I mean, if they want to pass on the savings of not having all those R&D costs and this fig is only $25 like a KO seeker...so be it, but part of what makes these 3rd Party figs worth the exorbitant price is the amazing design and engineering these no-name people are pulling off and in limited quantities. Count me in the minority that's glad I don't give two craps about the Wreckers and don't find this a must have.

*To be fair, we don't yet know the price of this figure...but I fully expect it to be in the $60-80 range (or even $100+ like their Arcee.) If it proves to be $25-30, then I'll happily retract my rant.

Oh yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. Exactly.

Oh, no, wait. What I was saying is that I don't mind different molds using similar transformation schemes.

craggy wrote:Oh yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. Exactly.

Oh, no, wait. What I was saying is that I don't mind different molds using similar transformation schemes.

Neither do I...provided they're the ones that came up with the transformation scheme...and it's a repaint/retool.

so you'd be against someone using the G1 Prowl/Smokescreen/everyone else/Micromaster/Minicon/bajillions of other transforming robot/car toys scheme of "hood folds down to be chest. arms come out of sides. back of car unfolds to become legs"?

the Seeker transformation scheme has been reused time and again by other toys since G1 as well. as I originally said, there are only so many ways to easily go from one shape to another shape.

Has there been any news on this? I have a feeling the project was scrapped. I know the official Impactor was just announced, but this guy looked amazing, and I was really looking forward to him.

ViperEye82 wrote:Has there been any news on this? I have a feeling the project was scrapped. I know the official Impactor was just announced, but this guy looked amazing, and I was really looking forward to him.

Yes, there has been a lot of news on this figure. But we've decided not to post it anywhere on here just to annoy you

Seriously, if there was news, either this topic or another would be updated. This is the #1 Transformers news site for a reason.

Wasn't any harm in asking. These things go quiet for months on end and it's easy to get the feeling you missed something somewhere........

I still want one of these but i think it will never happen.

Motorthing wrote:Wasn't any harm in asking. These things go quiet for months on end and it's easy to get the feeling you missed something somewhere........

I still want one of these but i think it will never happen.

Yeah, that's what happened, I started thinking I missed some bit of news.

Thanks fellas!

Really hoping the Presser/Impactor still comes out. Was VERY VERY disappointed in the half-hearted retool... well, that whole set of Wreckers. (Mind you, I AM glad they finally are realizing we want those characters.) But since those were revealed — plus tbe mention of an upcoming club Ironfist (repaint with new head from FOC Swindle) — that leaves iGear wide open to deliver and hopefully nail those characters. Those head sculpts are spot on. Hoping they release those in a box to add to the Botcon set, or included them with their Presser release.

You know, I'm sitting here looking at my FOC Wreckers, and I feel the same way -

The retooling leaves a lot to be desired, but the head sculpts are PERFECT.

I think I'd still get a voyager class Impactor if one is made available.

Agreed.

I'm still planning to get the official Wreckers, but looking at this iGear Impactor, the Mech Ideas twins, KFC Perceptor, Mach 5 Ironfist, Roadbuster and Whirl kits, etc... I don't think any of the Hasbro versions will usurp the 3rd party versions on their Wrecker shelf space.

Mind you, I DO have to say the triple changers do a nice job trumping the third party toys, especially for the price. Springer and Sandstorm welcome to the club... and perhaps the upcoming Scoop, Swerve and Tailgate can stand among the wreckers proudly? Okay, maybe the Whirl, too.

Wonder if we'll be seeing a decent Broadsides (or better Astrotrain) in the years to come?

But I digress. Besides the upcoming offerings (including Impactor) I guess my outstanding Wreckers want list is most screaming for a decent... Guzzle, Rotorstorm and Pyro, plus Broadside, Roadbuster, and Overlord.

FansProject Broadside is pretty outstanding.

Also, what Roadbuster kit?