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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby HoundimusPrime » Tue Jul 12, 2011 6:02 pm

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Rodimus2006 wrote:It needs to be a seasoned director maybe Bret Ratner or Roland Emmerich from Godzilla & 2012 since he does the end of the world movies would be a good replacement for Bay


You do realise Godzilla and 2012 were terrible movies. Granted so are Bay's, but I can at least watch them. I can't stand watching any film by Roland Emmerich.
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby Wing Saber II » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:07 pm

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What I want to see: Galvatron, Nemesis Prime/Scourge/Motormaster, Tidal Wave, Unicron, Omega Supreme, Dinobots, Predacons, Rodimus, Vector Prime, Seekers, Waspinator, Ultra Magnus, Alpha Trion, Scourge, Nemesis Prime
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby ReDPATH » Thu Jul 14, 2011 12:59 pm

It may be early, but I think its leaning more and more towards a second trilogy over a reboot.

In that case, they really should learn/correct from the original trilogy.

You don't have to remove the humans completely and in fact, they won't.

What they do need to is make the screen time about 60/40 70/30 in favor of the Transformers.

Realistically 60/40

Yes its expensive but the Transformers have to be the focal point.

Megan Fox was a non factor in terms of the success or fail of DOTM at the box office. With Shia leaving, I'm sure it will be the same even if his character was more established/more connected to the autobots.

Its about the bots/cons so make them the focus with the humans along for the ride rather than the other way around this time.
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby dirk2243 » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:22 pm

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ReDPATH wrote:It may be early, but I think its leaning more and more towards a second trilogy over a reboot.

In that case, they really should learn/correct from the original trilogy.

You don't have to remove the humans completely and in fact, they won't.

What they do need to is make the screen time about 60/40 70/30 in favor of the Transformers.

Realistically 60/40

Yes its expensive but the Transformers have to be the focal point.

Megan Fox was a non factor in terms of the success or fail of DOTM at the box office. With Shia leaving, I'm sure it will be the same even if his character was more established/more connected to the autobots.

Its about the bots/cons so make them the focus with the humans along for the ride rather than the other way around this time.


I think you could easily phase Shia out. (if he was to come back for another go) give him a few minutes and write in some reason he leaves or something. I think the Allspark in his head has to be some factor though.
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby Red 50 » Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:01 pm

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I would accept a second trilogy rather than have the original continued.
Maybe really a prequel or a completely different story-line.

Unicron and Primus would be pretty good starting platform. Dinobots could be introduced. Maybe if prequel then Combaticons and an explanation of Brawls departure from the gang. Ultra Magnus and Hot Rod/Rodimus Prime.
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My Idea For 2nd Trilogy >>>>

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 3:25 am

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I have a cool idea for the 2nd Trilogy if there will be another one.

A new idea in a new direction, new main star, new transformers never before seen in Transformers.

A Human doing some acreology in the Mideast unearths something buried miles below ground. Unaware what he has found is the very key to controling the very fabrics of time & space itself "The Key To Vector Sigma".

The Human accidently triggers the Key and it causes a rip in the universe a doorway to a parrellel universe and comes a new breed of Transformers that not even the Cybertronians no of cause they arent from Cybertron but from this Parrelel Universe.

The new name of this race of Transformers is called the Transmetalcons.

They are under the command of Nightraven the evil leader of the Transmetalcons.

Under Nightraven are her Elite Guards Thunderslicer & Afterburner.

Then we have 2 new teams The Galaxy Racers and the Crimson Mauraders.

Little do the Autobots & Decepticons no that the Galaxy Racers & Crimson Mauraders also can combine The Galaxy Racers form Astrodia while the Crimson Mauraders form Maurader Maximus.

Now Outnumbered and outmatched the Autobots & Decipticons team up and join the humans to stop the new Transmetalcons.

What is the goal of the Transmetalcons, why did they come to Earth and what are there goals.

I figured if you wanan start a 2nd trilogy and go new characters make new characters like my new characters since everyone died in the original trilogy except the few survivors then they can join forces and stop these new Transmetalcons.

The Key to Vector Sigma would be way way diffrent from G1 as it was what cause the rip in the Universe and brough forth the Transmetalcons from their side of the Universe into ours.

I like to be creative these transformers I have invented have never been made into a toy, used in comics or anything else I invented them.

Usually cause I been with transformers for 25 years I can create new things like the Transmetalcons and make up names right of the top of my head.

I cant draw worth a crap though and I would love to show these guys what they would look like but sadly i can not draw.

I have tons and tons more transformers I created and I think if the 2nd trilogy does get made it is time for new Transformers for a new generation.

I like new ideas, new stories this is coming from a G1 original this is why I like Prime and also enjoyed Animated.
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby primezimm » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:00 am

dirk2243 wrote:
primezimm wrote:I was thinking on this topic when my son said after watching it that its over due to all the charfacters that died. We could have the first of the second trilogy with the decepticons regrouping. Several came through the spacebridge. Maybe under the command of a general Blitzwing (must make use of triplechange ability). Along with another batch of autobot refugees coming to earth. I'm thinking of a ship that is a transformer filled with a crew coming into earth atmosphere over the ocean, several scans are taken of an aircraft carrier then it lands as a carrier with a complement of aircraft on deck. The arrival of Broadside and the Arialbots, perhaps Springer, Seaspray, Beachcomber, Sandstorm, maybe even Hotrod/Rodimus, some others that we've been longing to see. The Arialbots with have a battle bringing them together in the air to combine as Superion. Blitzwings collective are awaiting the arrival of a new leader, and choose to make trouble, guerilla warefare, while they wait. Including Stunticons, which would combine for battle from a vehicle position, kneeling over, to a standing position. I would also like to bring in the Combaticons, especially with the point that the cons had scattered to activate the columns, and needing a battle for Broadside too. I also think this movie should have a little focus on rebuilding, with a new "Metro" or "Fortress" base of operations. Maybe end it with the arrival of Galvatron. Definitely not a reformatted Megs.

The second movie would raise the stakes, bringing up the conflict, Leading to a devastating battle between Metroplex or Fortress Maximus and Trypticon. The only reason I consider either/or with Metro and Fort Max is the point that cities are usually alot larger than fortresses. Trypticon I'd pic because Scorponok already existed in the first film. Mayb then I can get the scene I've been wanting, have Optimus driving up with an oil tanker trailer at a high rate of speed, transform while in forward motion swinging the trailer around and releasing like a missle then shooting it before or on impact of a very large con. This movie alludes to larger threat, and possible existance of Cybertron.

Third Movie takes the conflict into space, back to Cybertron, as a new threat is understood. Cybertron must be reactivated for an epic massive giant robot battle with Unicron.


"IF" they make another movie "even a trilogy" I'd like to see them do it similar to like you mention and make it leaving audiences knowing there will be more.

With all the cons coming through the space bridge there are plenty of options left. You could bring in the Sea-cons "as they could avoid the energon detectors" being in the water. Wouldn't even have to be a big name for the Commander of the cons in the first of three films. Perhaps Motormaster or Onslaught leading there team w/ a few extras.

I do like the idea of Galvatron and Unicron and perhaps dark energon? (if you were going to have them revive megs)

I just don't want to see Optimus as a one man show. At times in DOTM I wondered why there were even other autobots considering he did so much. Take a look at Prime in the first movie vs Megs. He was weaker, learning still it seemed. (yes, he was powered up in ROTF and Megs was beaten down in DOTM, but Megs was napping for years prior to that show down) but if Galvatron.....I'd like to see it as an honest equal.


The way I see it, there is only so many ways to tell the same story. I think things need to evolve to other characters and/or more characters. Maybe Galvatron could kill Prime in the second movie, or beginning of the third, and we could see a new leader rise up from his ashes. It would be sad, yet it would encourage growth, both, with the story and with the brand. They could even bring about a headmaster using the human villian from DOTM, having been damaged upon contact with the pillar (didn't see him die). He could return operating as Zarak.
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Re: My Idea For 2nd Trilogy >>>>

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:23 am

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Nightraven is after a device or terrible destructive power called the 'Elemental Chaos'.

This device is so powerful it can control the very elements such as Fire, Water, Wind & Earth.

The device came through thier side millions and millions of years ago and crashed landed and was buried somewhere on the surface of the moon.

Once Nightraven has the device in her clutches she can wreck all kinds of chaos on Earth creating huge Hurricanes, devestating Earth Quakes and other natural disasters is she gets a hold of Elemenetal Chaos.

It isnt a very big device but sort of like how on Prime with the Magnetic Gauntlet be about something like that or the shape of an Orb and has to be activated in a certain way.
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Re: My Idea For 2nd Trilogy >>>>

Postby Blast Cannon » Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:46 am

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Transmetalcons. Otherwise known as Gobots.
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Re: My Idea For 2nd Trilogy >>>>

Postby Rodimus2006 » Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:06 pm

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The Transmetalcons are not Go-Bots as Go-Bots are crappy little transformers based on the new upcoming Series coming out.

Or the Crappy deal that use to be in Happy Meals like them rinky dinky small transformers the size of a mirco machine.

Transmetalcons are totally new in a new direction. These are vicious machines that make the decipticons look like kitty cats they do not stop, they show no mecrcy and have technology way above Cybertronians that make them look like Earth tech.

as The Transmetalcons are from another Universe as Go Bots are from our Universe and they are a crappy kids toy.

My Transmetalcons would also have a unique symbol like the decipticons and Autobots logo I was thinking about Merging the 2 symbols into 1 symbol then around the symbol would be sort of like the Mini-con symbol around the middle symbol and make it really menacing looking and change the color to orange and green.

Nightraven is the Leader her Elite Guards are Afterburner and Thunderslicer.

Nothing like crappy Go-Bots.
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby Ramjet's Ghost » Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:55 am

I don't think there could be another three Transformers movies, done well, if they are filmed on earth. IMO, it would be a stretch to think people would come rushing to the box office to see villains they've little emotional attachment to such as Nemisis Prime, Jhiaxus, etc. After seeing DOTM for the fourth time last night, I can't help but feel that is how the movie continuity should end.

*BUT*

If they want to make a 4th installment, I think they could succeed with Unicron. Here's my idea...

TF-4 would be a film shot mostly in CGI, similar to Avatar in that case.

The setting would be 2055 - futuristic enough to allow Sam to still be alive and alert, but to old to be running around fighting alongside the Autobots.

After decades of sparce battles, the Decepticon attacks on earth have, by this point, become extremely futile. With the help of the Autobots, human technology has gotten to the point they now have ships similar to the ones manned by the 'Cons in DOTM. The humans can, more or less, can handle these petty attacks by the 'Cons. Still, human an occassion human life is lost in battle and the pressure from the general public are calling for the Autobots to leave earth, thinking the Decepticon attacks will stop altogether if the Autobots are elsewhere. Even if they do attack, the humans feel they can handle it now. Optimus Prime agrees to take his crew of Autobots elsewhere once they have secrectly constructed a state-of-the-art Autobot ship. (Remember, Transformers are good at building huge objects in an insanely short amount of time.)

During the time of the ship's construction, Optimus uses an object similar to the space bridge pillars. It is a (really) long range radio and he is hoping he will be able to contact intelligent life somewhere else on the galaxy, hopefully on a planet that has energon.

He receives a response from an Autobot crew on an unknown planet in an unknown galaxy. This crew is lead by Ultra Magnus and features Kup, Warpath, and Sandstorm... as well as many (nameless) others.

Elated to receive news from old friends, Optimus flys his Autobots to take refuge on this new planet. Ultra Magnus reveals they too have faught a war against Decepticons, on this planet, and won. He tells the Autobots the planet's name is Unicron, since he heard so many Decepticons utter the phrase "for Unicron," in battle.

Unicron "akwakens" when the Matrix of Leadership, carried by Optimus, arrives. He contacts Octance, Blitzwing, and Astrotrain and provides them with a boost of energon to convince them to fight in order to destroy the Matrix. He revives and reformats many dead Decepticons (Thundercracker, Skywarp, Dirge, Thrust, and Ramjet) into Cyclonus, Scourge, and Sweeps.

The Decepticons unleash a brutal attack on the Autobots, catching them slightly off guard. Optimus gets hit so hard the Matrix falls from his chest and he notices it is glowing instensly. Once the Autobots have driven the 'Cons off the Matrix takes Optimus for a trip (he enters the Matrix). In the Matrix, Sentinel Prime and The Fallen (remember, they were Prime's so they're knowledge is in there) reveal who Unicron truly is as well as his history of devouring planets and his battles with the, now deceased, Primus. The Matrix is in the one energy source powerful enough to overload Unicron's core and destroy him. Only one Autobot, Alpha Trion, has ever attempted such a task and was destroyed in the process. He did, however, destroy Unicron's transformation cog in the process, leaving him stuck in planet mode. Alpha Trion hoped he could destroy Unicron's core with his weapons and felt the risk to possibly save the universe was worth it.

Optimus and Magnus decide to venture to Alpha Trion's ancient, old base, in order to find his route to the core. Kup is left in command of the Autobots.

Trion's base is found in a legendary city named Metroplex which has been abandoned for centuries. Octane, who had been tracking the two Autobots, ambushes them and ultimately kills Magnus. Prime kills Octane and is more determined than ever now that, yet again, one of his closest friends has been murdered.

Upon returning to the Autobot's HQ, Prime tells the Autobots his plan to fly a shuttle to the core and overload it. He wants the Autobots to evacuate as he is unsure of what will happen if he succeeds.

Unicron has commissioned the construction of a new transformation cog which is installed shortly before Optimus begins his trek to the core. The Autobots on the verge of evacuation are mercilessly attacked by the Decepticons who have been promised unlimited energon in exchange for the destruction of the Autobots/Matrix. Optimus is able to take fight in a small shuttle and begins his quest.

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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby Ramjet's Ghost » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:04 am

On the surface of the planet the Autobots have repelled the Decepticons and take refuge on a nearby asteroid. When they are able to again blast off and escape Unicron's tractor beam, he transforms into robot mode. The Autobots that can fly are dispatched to fly around Unicron and inflict as much damage as possible. We get to see a long shot here of Unicron in space trying to catch the Autobots flying around, like a human trying to swat/catch flys.

Meanwhile, inside, Optimus is flying around battling all of the defenses we came to know and love of Unicron from the '86 movie. After heavy battles on his way to the core Optimus encounters Blitzwing, Unicron's last line of defense at his core. Optimus, heavily damaged but victorius over Bitzwing, inserts the Matrix into Unicron's core which blows him up.

The movie ends with the Autobots' cries of joy when they see the end of Unicron and then concern when they see Prime's shuttle, after sustaining a heavy blow, twisting out of control into space. We are left to speculate whether or not Prime survived and where the Autobots took refuge.

Thoughts?

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Obviously, this outline is not very detailed. Here is my list of things I'd like to see in detail throughout the movie:

- Aged version of Sam, Carly, Lennox, and Epps saying their goodbyes

- Optimus and Magnus's relationship as Autobots who faught together on Cybertron before their crews were seperated.

- Autobots' elation to finding a peaceful planet, similar to Cybertron

- Autobots' dejection when they learn the truth of this new planet

- Triple Changers make effective use of all three of their forms

- Keep the Autobot cast to what it was at the end of DOTM plus UM, Kup, Sandstorm, & Warpath. All others would be generic looking soldiers so we can focus characterization on our favorites including Dino and the Wreckers.

- A scene where the Autobots tour a Decepticon graveyard and make light of how the (dead) seekers air commander was destroyed on earth.

- Typical, awesome Transformers action/battle scenes.
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby Red 50 » Mon Jul 25, 2011 1:34 pm

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Sounds good.

But just one question out of curiosity: No Galvatron nor Hot Rod?
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Re: I welcome a 2nd Trilogy

Postby Ramjet's Ghost » Mon Jul 25, 2011 3:18 pm

I chose not to use Galvatron because I don't feel he'd be given justice. Unicron is the big bad in this story and, if made into film, Galvatron would play a distant second fiddle. Using the triple changers would still give the fans and story a cool group of characters without the need to delve into their personality and history as much. Plus, Octane and Blitzwing had questionable loyalties so perhaps that could be worked in as well. Do they continue to fight for Unicron, etc.?

With Hot Rod, perhaps he could fit into the story better. I wanted to use characters that had distinct personalities in the cartoon that could also serve a purpose if it were formatted into a movie, factoring in time constraints, etc. Hot Rod is a young, inexperienced warrior, and as of where my story stands right now, I don't know where he would make a contribution and be given appropriate characterization.

I'm typing out a novel version of this story that I will share in the Fan Fiction forum eventually and it fleshes out more of the detail I mentioned, including Sideswipe's new role as the Autobots' second in command.
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