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Ideas for a PG-rated complete revamp of Kiss Players

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Jun 08, 2011 3:32 pm

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So... Kiss Players. One of the most controversial lines of the Transformers series ever produced. It's toys (the robots, that is) were decent enough, since they were mostly Binaltech/Alternator molds, G1 cassette molds, and Japanese Beast Wars Egg Beast molds.

The fiction however, is where things got (to put it politely) disturbing. The two story arcs that lay beneath its creepy exterior were genuinely kinda interesting and intriguing (once you got passed to gross stuff), but it's one of those series that is VERY hard to get into because just how hideous it appears at first glance (particularly the first story arc).

Therefore, suppose it were to be given a complete revamped overhaul to make it more PG-rated. No hentai, no innuendos, no pornographic imagery whatsoever. In order for something like this to work, what sort of specific changes would you see being done to make this less grotesque and more appealing?

Here's some of my thoughts:
  • Like I said above, all risqué material would be gone for good. No porn, period.
  • The name and gimmick of the series would have to be changed. No human-to-robot kissing, period. :SICK: Therefore, the name would have to be different from "Kiss Players". But as for how the characters could retain some of the mystical aspects of this gimmick, just make all the girls Powermasters. Not Godmasters, but Powermasters.
  • All the girls would be redrawn to look their proper age. Mid-to-late teen looks instead of underage looks.
  • The Legion would all be redesigned to look safe for children, while still being scary-looking. No phallic tongues (or even no tongues whatsoever).
  • Kiss Players Position would need less editing, but it too would need the same removal of unwanted material.
  • Ringo would need a complete character overhaul. She's psycho. :KREMZEEK: Make her into the annoying comic relief butt monkey. That's a much more dignified role than the sick twisted person she already is. :BANG_HEAD:

What else could be changed to make it PG-rated?
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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby TulioDude » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:05 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:Therefore, suppose it were to be given a complete revamped overhaul to make it G-rated. No hentai, no innuendos, no pornographic imagery whatsoever. In order for something like this to work, what sort of specific changes would you see being done to make this less grotesque and more appealing?

What else could be changed to make it G-rated?

Fanservice its obrigatory 8-}Just kidding :D


Well,since its based on the Alternator/Binaltech toy they could have a focus on the humans and Transformers as partners,like a human alliance? :D
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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby dinogeist » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:56 am

I'd love to see a few transformers characters from different alternate universes use some of the older Alternators/Binaltech toys for some awesome recolors.

Like Having CR/Rid Speedbreaker/Sideburn use the Sunstreaker mold.

Having movie verse Barricade use the prowl mold.

Having Beastwars tigertron & cheetor use the liscensed Jaguar Ravage toy mold.

having the AEC Hotshot character use a alternator/bt That closesly matches his designs in both modes.

1985 Steeljaw recolor using the corvette ravage alternator toy.

hasbro/takara could take all the kiss players human tiny figures & Human allegiance tiny human figures & repaint them into humans that match the above transformers recolors ideas of mine.
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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:07 am

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TulioDude wrote:Fanservice its obrigatory 8-}Just kidding :D
Fanservice =/= porn. And what this story has is porn.

TulioDude wrote:Well,since its based on the Alternator/Binaltech toy they could have a focus on the humans and Transformers as partners,like a human alliance? :D
The real story already does that. Each Kiss Player is partnered with a Transformer (be it an Autorooper or Optimus/Rodimus) that they merge with.

But that image you put is of the Binaltech Asterisk line, which is more along the lines of what what you were thinking with you Human Alliance idea. With this story, however, Optimus and Marissa are fugitives on the run, and the Earth Defense Command is a corrupt organization that has removed all Transformers off the planet.

deathy wrote:I'd love to see a few transformers characters from different alternate universes use some of the older Alternators/Binaltech toys for some awesome recolors.

Like Having CR/Rid Speedbreaker/Sideburn use the Sunstreaker mold.

Having movie verse Barricade use the prowl mold.

Having Beastwars tigertron & cheetor use the liscensed Jaguar Ravage toy mold.

having the AEC Hotshot character use a alternator/bt That closesly matches his designs in both modes.

1985 Steeljaw recolor using the corvette ravage alternator toy.

hasbro/takara could take all the kiss players human tiny figures & Human allegiance tiny human figures & repaint them into humans that match the above transformers recolors ideas of mine.
There were only three Kiss Players toys that used Binaltech/Alternator toy molds: Optimus, Rodimus, and Autorooper. The rest were G1 cassettes and JBW Egg Beasts.


I'm talking about keeping the same story and characters intact, but removing/revamping all the bad stuff to make it all more G-rated.
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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:32 am

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So you want to have Kiss Players revamped, by removing everything that defines Kiss Players even the gimmick and concept. You know that wouldn't be a revamped Kiss Players, it would be a completely different series.
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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby Counterpunch » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:46 am

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Ringo has to stay and should be the villain. She should also be some kind of crazed yandere.

I don't think the series needs to be G-rated. PG13 is fine. I would like to see it framed as a complete deconstruction of the Transformers mythos. Keep the weird. Make it uncomfortable. But have one side pointing that out. (kind of like Bakemonogatari does with anime or how Madoka does deconstruction)

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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby dinogeist » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:03 am

Dead Metal wrote:So you want to have Kiss Players revamped, by removing everything that defines Kiss Players even the gimmick and concept. You know that wouldn't be a revamped Kiss Players, it would be a completely different series.


I agree,This sounds similar to what Simon Furman wants to do with marvel TF G-1 Issue #81. simon wants to forget G-2 happened. simon wants to leave out some TF G-1 marvel comics events.

Basically taking stuff away leads on the border line of a "What if" or spiralling stuff out in a alternate universe/reality.
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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby Zombie Starscream » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:41 pm

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I agree with the other posters. Once you change too much stuff around with KISS PLAYERS, then it stops being KP and starts being something else.

But I think I can come up with something to make it less objectinable:

1. Unfortunately, the risque elements are a theme of KP. What I would change around would be the looks of the girls, and at least have them looklike they're in their 20s-30s. This removes some of the 'ick' factor at least. (This is in agreement with another poster, they look too young.)

2. The main storyline is fine, so I won't change anything there.

3. I would also get rid (like another poster said) of the Legions/Megatrons phallic 'tongues' and replace them with nothing/something else. But if you want to make them stay scary, then they have to keep some horror element and I would give them a long tentacle-looking tongue. When they want to feed, they just slide this tongue down some victim's throat and digest/drain their body fluids from the inside out. At the end the victim is a dried up husk, and the Legion looks like he had a full meal.

4. When the girls emerge from their robot partners, they shouldn't be covered in a white 'slime' and they shouldn't be nearly naked. There should just be a brief white flash and then you see a unconscious fully dressed girl lying on the ground, no slime included.
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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby dinogeist » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:14 pm

Counterpunch wrote:Ringo has to stay and should be the villain. She should also be some kind of crazed yandere.

I don't think the series needs to be G-rated. PG13 is fine. I would like to see it framed as a complete deconstruction of the Transformers mythos. Keep the weird. Make it uncomfortable. But have one side pointing that out. (kind of like Bakemonogatari does with anime or how Madoka does deconstruction)

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Re: Ideas for a G-rated revamp of Kiss Players

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Jun 10, 2011 1:55 pm

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