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Identify this transformer. Circa 1989. Toys R Us $70?

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Postby Riotflea » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:37 pm

If you're coughing up for a Fortress Maximus, you might want to know of all the different versions out there.
And if anyone sees mistakes, correct me:

--Fortress Maximus (US) - has a large rifle, large gun, 4-piece robot friend, gun for smaller headmaster, radar dish.

--Fortress Maximus (Japan) - same as US version, but has a 3 part sword.

--Grand Maximus (Japan) - Rare. Different colors. Has everything of Japanese Fort Max Japanese release AND a Pretender shell, along with a gun for the Pretender.

--Brave Maximus - Darker version. Missing EVERYTHING but radar dish, gun for larger head robot and both head robots.

(As for his sword, there was a brief promotion in Japan to get his sword during the Brave Maximus release. Likewise, a blue version of the sword, but without the handle to fit it in his fist, came in the Japan-only Toys R Us Super God Fire Convoy clear double set).

I THINK that's all of the regular FMs. Did I mess up?

Keep in mind too, that pieces often missing on loose Maximuses are:

-the 2 giant guns on his legs
-the 2 wrist guns inside his hand compartment
-the 2 rifle barrels on the sides of his waist
-the door to the "jail" in his leg
-the clear door to his chest
-the 2 door flaps to the other side of his chest
-the door / ramp right under his chin
-the 2 ramps, as well as the sections of those ramps for the back of his arms

As for seeing him for $70, that was a damn fine price.
I remember him being on the end cap of the boys aisle at Toys R Us for $99.99.
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Postby God Magnus » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:51 pm

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I'm surprised nobody metioned Countdown. It's fairly obvious he was talking about Fort Max but Countdown fits the base and spaceship part. Just sayin'.
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Postby Riotflea » Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:56 pm

God Magnus wrote:I'm surprised nobody metioned Countdown. It's fairly obvious he was talking about Fort Max but Countdown fits the base and spaceship part. Just sayin'.

Ah, maybe. There ARE similarities.

http://www.tfu.info/1989/Autobot/Countd ... ntdown.htm
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Postby Stormrider » Tue Jan 30, 2007 4:22 pm

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I have seen the blue sword that Riotflea describes sell for as much as $200 in Japan. I am astonished the plastic sword by itself can sell for that much money.
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Postby Ninja Sixshot » Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:56 pm

i thught grand max was the rid version( no weapons) and brave max was the guy with the pretender shell. i cant see countdown being $70 though :? . by todays standards $70 back then would probably be about $125
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Postby Riotflea » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:25 pm

stormrider wrote:I have seen the blue sword that Riotflea describes sell for as much as $200 in Japan. I am astonished the plastic sword by itself can sell for that much money.


Well, that's what happens when Takara GUTS a toy of all it's weapons. :D

To make it worse, all the preliminary photos and I think even the Robots In Disguise collection notes showed him with his rifle and gun.
Yeah, I was pissed when I finally got my $175 import of him from Japan.
Even better, he was missing his ear stickers. >__<

You have to admit though... the blue sword was so much cooler, what with it's "Till All Are One" sticker written in a funky font at the base of it.
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Postby Bonger » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:18 am

Oh Thanks, thats really good info on the different Maximus's.

I'm going to go for the G1 US release as every other member of my collection is G1 US.

As far as countdown goes, how tall would he have been in a package and what year was he released in. I can't seem to find any info on him.
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Postby God Magnus » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:30 am

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If I remember right Countdown was about a 18" by 12" or so and it was released in '89, I believe.
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Postby Bonger » Wed Jan 31, 2007 1:25 am

Hmm, Myabe it was countdown then. This incident in the Toystore was in the summer of 1989. And my memory from almost 20 years ago was a spaceship. Maybe it just seemed HUGE as I was a kid and much smaller.

Anyone remember the opriginal MSRP on Countdown?
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Postby JelZe GoldRabbit » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:16 pm

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Bonger wrote:Hmm, Myabe it was countdown then. This incident in the Toystore was in the summer of 1989. And my memory from almost 20 years ago was a spaceship. Maybe it just seemed HUGE as I was a kid and much smaller.

Anyone remember the opriginal MSRP on Countdown?


I've looked over every single helpfull post, and none of them have links to images of the toys! Time to remedy that:

Fortress Maximus
Grand Maximus
Brave Maximus
Countdown with Rocket Base

And everyone forgot:

Skystalker with Space Shuttle

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Postby Dagon » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:25 pm

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What's the deal with the pretender shell for Grand Maximus? Never saw that before......
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Postby Redimus GTS » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:26 pm

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Dagon wrote:What's the deal with the pretender shell for Grand Maximus? Never saw that before......


Probably an atempt to keep him in line with one of the main focuses of the line at the time.
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Postby Dagon » Wed Jan 31, 2007 2:21 pm

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Redimus wrote:
Dagon wrote:What's the deal with the pretender shell for Grand Maximus? Never saw that before......


Probably an atempt to keep him in line with one of the main focuses of the line at the time.



Wow, how very corporate of them......
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Postby Supreme Convoy » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:36 pm

God Magnus wrote:I'm surprised nobody metioned Countdown. It's fairly obvious he was talking about Fort Max but Countdown fits the base and spaceship part. Just sayin'.


:BOT: I don't remember that costing $70. (If it were, my parents wouldn't have bought me it!). For some reason, I remember it as $20.

On a side note, this got me thinking about GI Joe's Defiant playset. I'd kill to own that thing. But I don't have the space for it. :CON:
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Postby Caelus » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:00 pm

:-? My first thought was actually Skylynx. I remember seeing one in Toy Circus when I was little and thinking it was gigantic. Plus, it would be more recognizable as a spaceship to a little kid than Fort Max.
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Postby Bonger » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:20 am

It's wierd. The image in my head now, is of a giant Ark. But obviously that could not be.

I know I'm in the right ballpark on the price. Though the mini bases are really nice and would fit the mental image better than Fort Max, were they $70ish and on the shelves in '89?
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Postby God Magnus » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:32 am

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Supreme Convoy wrote:
God Magnus wrote:I'm surprised nobody metioned Countdown. It's fairly obvious he was talking about Fort Max but Countdown fits the base and spaceship part. Just sayin'.


:BOT: I don't remember that costing $70. (If it were, my parents wouldn't have bought me it!). For some reason, I remember it as $20.

On a side note, this got me thinking about GI Joe's Defiant playset. I'd kill to own that thing. But I don't have the space for it. :CON:


I didn't even think of The Defiant but that definitely fits Bonger's description of it being huge and Ark-like and probably would have been around $70 as well. Good call, SC!
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Postby Dagon » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:19 am

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Supreme Convoy wrote:
God Magnus wrote:I'm surprised nobody metioned Countdown. It's fairly obvious he was talking about Fort Max but Countdown fits the base and spaceship part. Just sayin'.


:BOT: I don't remember that costing $70. (If it were, my parents wouldn't have bought me it!). For some reason, I remember it as $20.

On a side note, this got me thinking about GI Joe's Defiant playset. I'd kill to own that thing. But I don't have the space for it. :CON:


Hell yes, I'd love the Defiant as well. But the space! Where do you put something that big?
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