Shadowman wrote:This is Sabrblade we're talking about. His ability to store trivial information about TV shows is downright superhuman.
Caelus wrote:My wife pointed out something interesting about the prehistoric Predacons. I said that everyone was complaining because transforming for them mostly consisted of them just standing up-right. She essentially said, 'So? That's what our ancestors did.'
Ninja Sixshot wrote:please be THE original 13
Ninja Sixshot wrote:please be THE original 13
i_like_starscream wrote:Are the Original 13 the Covenant of Primus plus The Fallen?
i_amtrunks wrote:i_like_starscream wrote:Are the Original 13 the Covenant of Primus plus The Fallen?
Fallen was a member of the original 13, The Fallen is the name the remaining (surviving) members of the 13 gave to him when he switched sides.
i_like_starscream wrote:So what about the Covenant of Primus? Are they the 13?
AxiomScion wrote:i_like_starscream wrote:So what about the Covenant of Primus? Are they the 13?
Well the Covenant of Primus is more like a TF Bible/sacred text while The Covenant being only 12 members, and none named Prima nor Primon, seems incapable of being the original 13 TFs.
So to answer your question... No they are not the original 13.
I just hope this origin story doesn't try to amalgamate every last concept of the 13 as a master retcon. I'm thinking some bits just don't knit well together...
Here's to A-3 not being among there number... although i could see options for him.
AxiomScion wrote:I guess that would leave the last autobot or Prima as the missing member... and Liege Maximo might be left out with Primon and the bath water.
Or depending on the religious similarities Primon could return as the last autobot...
just a thought.
I kinda wanted to see more liege maximo and the fallen (pre-fall) though...
i_like_starscream wrote:I guess the easy way to clear up who is/isn't in the 13 would be to say that they go by other aliases. Since Sandstorm was Scorpius, there's precedent there.
Furman doesn't have any excuses for the ambiguities since he was the one who created them.
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