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IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:10 pm

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Given the recent announcements, both at BotCon and in the Director's Cut of Transformers Spotlight: Drift of the new mini-series on the ex-Decepticon-turned-Autobot-with-Spectralist/scapegoat - we decided to collect all known news so far and keep a single thread (as for Transformers: Windblade) for the upcoming Empire of Stone, with Shane McCarthy and Guido Guidi back in the pilot's seat! Check out below a couple of snippets from the DC Drift and McCarthy's own blog!

Shane McCarthy: The mini kicks off after Drift was booted from the Lost Light and deals with what he’s been doing since then. It’s been a lot of fun because I’m incorporating the elements James brought to his character in the ongoing bookwhile also bringing the focus back towards his internal struggles with what the war did to him and what it meant to switch sides.

I’m including some great villains—seriously, they’re so much fun, and I’ve also brought in Ratchet. I loved the chemistry James brought to those two so, as you know, I lobbied hard to be able to use Ratchet in this. There’s rogue Decepticons, a hidden army, and a ton of action. Plus a good hard look at who Drift is underneath his cavalier exterior.

Guido Guidi: Drift, like a wandering samurai... in space! After leaving the Lost Light, he’s been pretty much on his own, and guess what—the universe is still full of bad guys... and some unexpected friends.


I’m currently sitting in a hotel in Stockholm working on the script for Drift: Empire of Stone #3. I’m loving the hell out of writing this and wanted to share some random thoughts…

I’ve seen a lot of tweeting and retweeting about the series on Twitter and I’m really thankful for all of the excitement out there. John (Transformers editor) tells me the reaction at Botcon to the series announcement was big and that’s really exciting to hear. I’m looking forward to seeing what everyone thinks.

The biggest kick in all of this is working with Guido again. The Gui’s art is brilliant but partnering up with him again is bringing me back to the amazing AHM days.

It dawned on me that this is the first time I’ve been able to write Drift as I originally imagined him to be. He spent much of his time in the background of AHM and then the Spotlight and the mini series that followed focused on Drift in the past, a Drift that was in a lot of turmoil. Not to suggest he still isn’t but he wasn’t the cavalier, good humoured Autobot I originally conceived him to be yet. His good humour and often present smile certainly hides a lot of inner pain but in those flashbacks the pain was all on the surface. It’s three issues in so far and Drift is definitely a guy I’m enjoying hanging out with. And let it be known, Drift’s time on the Lost Light definitely plays into the series.
With the Drift Spotlight Director’s Cut out it’s been revealed that Ratchet is playing a big part in this and THAT’S been a hoot. I was over the moon when John gave me the go ahead to be able to use him.

John is a champion and has been great to work with. I’ve been lucky with getting to work with great editors during my career and John’s no different.

Lastly, a big shout out to “Sprite” for her help wayyyyy back when I was formulating all this. It’s good to have a Transformer expert’s brain to pick.

Anyway, back to the script and thank you for all the support out there!
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Tigertrack » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:25 pm

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Hey if Drift goes Overlord round 2, or takes on the DJD it would be epic. Not expecting that I just know it would make my day! I'll read this for sure. I just reread the arc where Drift leaves. I have a hard time believing Drift agreed to be a part of all that mess in the first place. Loved that he quoted Prowl word for word but took all the blame--.

Looking forward to Gui's work and Shane's surprises.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:09 am

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I liked what Roberts did to the character. Because I didn't like him before. Now I do.

To be honest, I'm a little worried that McCarthy will backtrack and make him uberkewl again.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby JDD SEALAB » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:55 pm

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Hope they put some Stone based Transformers like the rock lords to make it interesting like in the style of the first Alien movie. No one can see you in a rocky barren wasteland planet again. I'm either a genius or crazy for mentioning this. Now let's :michaelbay:
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:28 pm

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As one of the most outspoken critics of Drift, I will begrudgingly admit that Roberts managed to flesh him out into an actual character with a little bit of depth. But seriously, at what point did IDW think the fandom liked him so much that we'd want a whole nother miniseries about him? Penned by McCarthy, of all people? I'm just so baffled by this decision.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Downbeat » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:46 pm

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I think it's funny that McCarthy apparently envisioned Drift as an upbeat guy on the surface and....never did anything with it. I'm annoyed that he has him again, I hope that things don't get mucked up too bad.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Dead Metal » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:26 am

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Oh god, MyCarthy is let near the canon again?

OK, I guess it's time to cancel my subscription to MTMTE and RID, we're still trying to fix the last time he worked on the canon universe while ignoring established canon.

Well it was fun while it lasted.
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Sneak Peek - IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone #1 Unlettered Preview

Postby Va'al » Mon Sep 15, 2014 5:32 pm

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In further comics news today, some unlettered pages from the upcoming Shane McCarthy/Guido Guidi miniseries from IDW - Drift: Empire of Stone - have surfaced courtesy of the PreviewsWorld article we reported on yesterday! Check them out mirrored below, as they show the ex-Lost Lighter getting involved in some non-robotic (and some robotic) affairs.

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Mon Sep 15, 2014 10:58 pm

Looks pretty good. I think a little time away has been good for Drift, and I'm interested to see what he's been doing. Provided he's not just effortlessly cutting through every obstacle, which can make any character boring, I think it could be a neat miniseries.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Heckfire » Tue Sep 16, 2014 5:54 am

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I'm kinda torn. On one hand, this feels a little too much like "ROB LIEFIELD COMES BACK TO DO SHATTERSTAR!", where a creator comes back to one of his creations who was turned from an embarrassing joke under his hand into a popular character under someone else's JUST for the sake of a gimmick buck. On the other hand, I am legitimately curious as to whether McCarthy will keep the character development Drift received in MTMTE and build on it, plus the artwork looks pretty good to boot.

If I see it before I read any reviews, I'll check it out.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Shuttershock » Tue Sep 16, 2014 11:14 am

Heckfire wrote:I'm kinda torn. On one hand, this feels a little too much like "ROB LIEFIELD COMES BACK TO DO SHATTERSTAR!", where a creator comes back to one of his creations who was turned from an embarrassing joke under his hand into a popular character under someone else's JUST for the sake of a gimmick buck. On the other hand, I am legitimately curious as to whether McCarthy will keep the character development Drift received in MTMTE and build on it, plus the artwork looks pretty good to boot.

If I see it before I read any reviews, I'll check it out.


If John Barber edits, maybe he can reign in some of Shane's self-destructive tendencies. I'd like to believe he did learn SOMETHING about working with established continuity, given how badly AHM veered off and we've spent the better part of a decade coming back from it.
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Postby Anonymous. » Tue Sep 16, 2014 7:57 pm

I'm actually excited for this...
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby cybercat » Thu Oct 09, 2014 5:51 pm

Sign me up for 'torn'. I actually like McCarthy's Drift, and have soured on Roberts's writing (seriously can he please think of something else to do plotwise than 'THEN HE DIIIIIEEESS NO NOT REALLY'?), but then I saw the above released snippets and....ugh no. Having flashbacks to Spotlight Cliffjumper.

What's my problem? It's what I like to call Old Trek aliens--remember old Star Trek where the aliens were just like...people in bodypaint and funny clothes? Yeah, you could get away with it in the 60s and with live action. With comics...tell me why ALL the aliens have to look like that? And with a 'dog'? Seriously? Was it McCarthy or the artist who has the serious lack of creativity? I'm not sure which answer would be better.

I know that might sound like a petty thing (but trust me, I know people who claim that Livio's art hurts their soul), but it makes me suspect that McCarthy may be back into his tropey days and the story itself suffers from a lack of world-build and thought.

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Comic Book Resources interview with Shane McCarthy

Postby SW's SilverHammer » Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:54 pm

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Today Comic book Resources has published an interview between them and Shane McCarthy on new developmens on the soon to be released Miniseries, Drift: Empire of Stone
The full article can be read here http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=56820

Excerpt from the article:
Shane McCarthy wrote: Empire of Stone" takes place after Drift was booted off the Lost Light and sent on his way into the galaxy. It's about what he's been doing while he's been gone and how he's trying to be relevant and find his place in the galaxy now he's neither Autobot or Decepticon. Knowing Drift was wrongly accused, Ratchet comes looking for him to bring him back and the two become well and truly caught up in something from Drift's days as a Decepticon. While Drift is trying to save the galaxy, Ratchet is attempting to save Drift from himself. Buddy cop meets space adventure.
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IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone - Shane McCarthy Interview

Postby Va'al » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:39 am

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Thanks again to fellow Seibertronian SW's Silverhammer eagle eyes, we can share an interview conducted by Comic Book Resources with the writer of the upcoming IDW Transformers mini-series Drift: Empire of Stone (and the creator of the character in the first place) - Shane McMCarthy. Read on below for some snippets on the book, head here for the full thing, and check out the preview pages here!


Later this month, writer Shane McCarthy returns to the samurai Transformer he created in "Drift: Empire of Stone," a four-issue mini-series from IDW Publishing with artist Guido Guidi. As a former Decepticon who found sanctuary with the Autobots, Drift is currently on a journey of self-discovery, attempting to discover his place in the Galaxy. Along with Autobot medic Ratchet, who is along for the ride to help clear Drift's name from a wrongful accusation, Drift will go through what McCarthy describes as "buddy cop meets space adventure."

The writer discussed re-visiting his samurai Transformer in the new IDW mini-series "Drift: Empire of Stone," revealing why Drift finds himself without alliances yet again, his feelings on Michael Bay's interpretation of the character in "Transformers: Age of Extinction" (and why it was "bordering on offensive") and more.

CBR News: Shane, what's the main story behind "Drift: Empire of Stone?"

Shane McCarthy: "Empire of Stone" takes place after Drift was booted off the Lost Light and sent on his way into the galaxy. It's about what he's been doing while he's been gone and how he's trying to be relevant and find his place in the galaxy now he's neither Autobot or Decepticon. Knowing Drift was wrongly accused, Ratchet comes looking for him to bring him back and the two become well and truly caught up in something from Drift's days as a Decepticon. While Drift is trying to save the galaxy, Ratchet is attempting to save Drift from himself. Buddy cop meets space adventure.

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Are you coordinating your story at all with IDW "Transformers" architects John Barber or James Roberts? Will it connect to either "Robots in Disguise" or "More than Meets the Eye?"

Nothing beyond having John as my editor, no. John let me know what happened prior to "Empire of Stone" and I read up on Drift's appearances but, outside of that John's left me completely alone. He's a great guy to work with. Whilst the mini series takes place after the events on the Lost Light, the mini doesn't connect with the major books.

What's it like working with artist Guido Guidi?

Working with Gui is always a treat. He's a great artist! As I was writing up "Empire of Stone" I was sending Guido ideas and letting him know what characters I'd be using that he'd need to design. As the scripts start coming through to him he sends through sketches and pages for John and I to look at. It's like Christmas every time. I really enjoy working with Guido a lot and was over the moon when I found out we'd be able to work together. He was the one guy I really wanted for this and it's fantastic to come together to work on the character we created.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Fri Nov 07, 2014 9:25 am

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He won't be the wacky hippie guy that's been seen in the comics recently

But that was miles more interesting--and fleshed out--than anything he did with his own character.

I think the "Transformer" films are terrible cinema with no story or plot to speak of.

Funny, that's what I think about "All Hail Megatron" sometimes.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby SlyTF1 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 10:45 am

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Dead Metal » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:53 pm

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So Drift will ignore all the character development he's had, plus instead of leaving the Lost Light as a fall guy (his own idea) he'll actually be kicked of and look for his lot in life, also Ratchet (the Lost Light's medic who's been on the ship before and after Drift left) will come looking for him.

Ignoring continuity and the rest of the comics, as usual, classic McCarthy.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Randomhero » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:49 pm

JazZeke wrote:
He won't be the wacky hippie guy that's been seen in the comics recently

But that was miles more interesting--and fleshed out--than anything he did with his own character.

I think the "Transformer" films are terrible cinema with no story or plot to speak of.

Funny, that's what I think about "All Hail Megatron" sometimes.


You want to put the entire sentence from the quote instead of stopping where nodoubt you quit reading? He's not ignoring Drifts character development from MTMTE, it's going to be there as background like McCarthy even says in the rest of the sentence, but he's going to try and developed him further into what he-as the creator- always imagined.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby JazZeke » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:59 pm

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Randomhero wrote:
JazZeke wrote:
He won't be the wacky hippie guy that's been seen in the comics recently

But that was miles more interesting--and fleshed out--than anything he did with his own character.

I think the "Transformer" films are terrible cinema with no story or plot to speak of.

Funny, that's what I think about "All Hail Megatron" sometimes.


You want to put the entire sentence from the quote instead of stopping where nodoubt you quit reading? He's not ignoring Drifts character development from MTMTE, it's going to be there as background like McCarthy even says in the rest of the sentence, but he's going to try and developed him further into what he-as the creator- always imagined.

Oh I read the whole interview, but I'm quoting the key sentence. What he-as a creator-always imagined is boring, two-dimensional, and sanctimonious compared to the more interesting "flaky spiritualist" Roberts fleshed him out into. Dead Metal hit the nail on the head:
Dead Metal wrote:So Drift will ignore all the character development he's had, plus instead of leaving the Lost Light as a fall guy (his own idea) he'll actually be kicked of and look for his lot in life, also Ratchet (the Lost Light's medic who's been on the ship before and after Drift left) will come looking for him.

Ignoring continuity and the rest of the comics, as usual, classic McCarthy.
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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Rampage » Sat Nov 08, 2014 8:19 am

I don't know what to think. I'm definitely not going to jump the gun and proclaim this is going to suck, but I don't see Ratchet going out of his way to bring Drift back.
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Postby JazZeke » Sat Nov 08, 2014 10:42 pm

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Re: IDW Transformers Drift: Empire of Stone Discussion Thread

Postby Dead Metal » Mon Nov 10, 2014 2:58 pm

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So I was at my local comic store and had a look at the previews catalog, in the TF section was the cover to the third issue of this series, only took a pic of that due to well, this:
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Looks like RID Megatron/ Car Robots Gigatron is going to be part of the idw G1 cannon.


The description of what happens is something along the lines of "Drift's past problems become his present problems and Ratchet is unhappy that he got caught up in all of it."

It also claims that it ties directly into MTMTE, so make of it what you will.
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