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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:02 pm

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well I liked it. Made me want to read more, just like it should I think.
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While I love G1 I also love new innovations and takes on the characters.
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It's easier for me to say which are my LEAST favorite toy lines: Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby Noideaforaname » Wed Sep 30, 2015 6:00 pm

Va'al wrote:This is my opinion entirely. I am welcoming discussion because of how little I effectively cared about the story other than the funny (and really quite so) moments throughout. Someone please tell me I'm wrong, and show me why!

Hmmm. I've noticed quite a few people --die-hard fans-- haven't been as fond of these last issues, this whole season even. Not like Prime where people rather quickly snapped from "love" to "hate", but still pretty disheartening.

Kinda feels like we're just coasting on "James Roberts is the best thing ever!" at times....
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Sep 30, 2015 7:17 pm

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I'm still really liking it. Megatron's story is a huge highlight that I am greatly enjoying. Also, we started off with frikkin slaughterhouse and elegant chaos, so really it's hard to beat that, except for long lead up to a big event, which in this case may be the DJD v. Lost Light :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby Optimizzy » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:28 pm

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Well this storytelling is subtle. To be honest the only thing I feel at the end of an issue is a desire to read more. I hate that they end. I really can't think of a better praise. There are so many little developments in each issue that when you look at them separate you go "ok, so?" But then 5 issues down the line they come into play so big and (here's the kicker) so logically, that you are blown away. It's all very "after the fact". We are seeing a very meticulously designed slow buildup and I hope, I HOPE that he can continue to do so without interruption. Other series can handle the toy tie ins and the face paced cartoon action. MTMTE is character driven. And I thinking needs its time to build.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Wed Sep 30, 2015 9:33 pm

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Optimizzy wrote:Well this storytelling is subtle. To be honest the only thing I feel at the end of an issue is a desire to read more. I hate that they end. I really can't think of a better praise. There are so many little developments in each issue that when you look at them separate you go "ok, so?" But then 5 issues down the line they come into play so big and (here's the kicker) so logically, that you are blown away. It's all very "after the fact". We are seeing a very meticulously designed slow buildup and I hope, I HOPE that he can continue to do so without interruption. Other series can handle the toy tie ins and the face paced cartoon action. MTMTE is character driven. And I thinking needs its time to build.

Agreed so much. The Swerve story line for example: it started BEFORE MTMTE WAS STARTED. It led up to issue 43. It took almost 4 YEARS, 4 YEARS! for the storyline to play out fully, and it led straight to a DJD footnote and a Swerve whose character is in question by himself. This series is subtle, not in your face most of the time, and it's working so well :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Oct 01, 2015 1:37 am

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Optimizzy wrote:Well this storytelling is subtle. To be honest the only thing I feel at the end of an issue is a desire to read more. I hate that they end. I really can't think of a better praise. There are so many little developments in each issue that when you look at them separate you go "ok, so?" But then 5 issues down the line they come into play so big and (here's the kicker) so logically, that you are blown away. It's all very "after the fact". We are seeing a very meticulously designed slow buildup and I hope, I HOPE that he can continue to do so without interruption. Other series can handle the toy tie ins and the face paced cartoon action. MTMTE is character driven. And I thinking needs its time to build.


I do agree, and I know there will be a good pay-off eventually.

But this issue in particular just felt like a series of gags, linked together by name, fame and really good art. I'm not saying it doesn't feed into the wider story, but my feelings of reading it (three times, for review purposes) was just 'heh' and a smirk.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:55 am

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Va'al wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Well this storytelling is subtle. To be honest the only thing I feel at the end of an issue is a desire to read more. I hate that they end. I really can't think of a better praise. There are so many little developments in each issue that when you look at them separate you go "ok, so?" But then 5 issues down the line they come into play so big and (here's the kicker) so logically, that you are blown away. It's all very "after the fact". We are seeing a very meticulously designed slow buildup and I hope, I HOPE that he can continue to do so without interruption. Other series can handle the toy tie ins and the face paced cartoon action. MTMTE is character driven. And I thinking needs its time to build.


I do agree, and I know there will be a good pay-off eventually.

But this issue in particular just felt like a series of gags, linked together by name, fame and really good art. I'm not saying it doesn't feed into the wider story, but my feelings of reading it (three times, for review purposes) was just 'heh' and a smirk.

Never a bad thing though, especially since a little (or not so little) someone comes bursting in right at the end :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby Va'al » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:16 am

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Va'al wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Well this storytelling is subtle. To be honest the only thing I feel at the end of an issue is a desire to read more. I hate that they end. I really can't think of a better praise. There are so many little developments in each issue that when you look at them separate you go "ok, so?" But then 5 issues down the line they come into play so big and (here's the kicker) so logically, that you are blown away. It's all very "after the fact". We are seeing a very meticulously designed slow buildup and I hope, I HOPE that he can continue to do so without interruption. Other series can handle the toy tie ins and the face paced cartoon action. MTMTE is character driven. And I thinking needs its time to build.


I do agree, and I know there will be a good pay-off eventually.

But this issue in particular just felt like a series of gags, linked together by name, fame and really good art. I'm not saying it doesn't feed into the wider story, but my feelings of reading it (three times, for review purposes) was just 'heh' and a smirk.

Never a bad thing though, especially since a little (or not so little) someone comes bursting in right at the end :BOT:


The comic should not rely on 'right at the end' as much as it does. It has been doing that a lot.
I much preferred TF#45 to this one, with its gradual reveals rather than last page twist.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:25 am

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Va'al wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Va'al wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Well this storytelling is subtle. To be honest the only thing I feel at the end of an issue is a desire to read more. I hate that they end. I really can't think of a better praise. There are so many little developments in each issue that when you look at them separate you go "ok, so?" But then 5 issues down the line they come into play so big and (here's the kicker) so logically, that you are blown away. It's all very "after the fact". We are seeing a very meticulously designed slow buildup and I hope, I HOPE that he can continue to do so without interruption. Other series can handle the toy tie ins and the face paced cartoon action. MTMTE is character driven. And I thinking needs its time to build.


I do agree, and I know there will be a good pay-off eventually.

But this issue in particular just felt like a series of gags, linked together by name, fame and really good art. I'm not saying it doesn't feed into the wider story, but my feelings of reading it (three times, for review purposes) was just 'heh' and a smirk.

Never a bad thing though, especially since a little (or not so little) someone comes bursting in right at the end :BOT:


The comic should not rely on 'right at the end' as much as it does. It has been doing that a lot.
I much preferred TF#45 to this one, with its gradual reveals rather than last page twist.

Even so, I really feel that we are expecting a lot after Elegant chaos. We're back to a little bit more fun stuff like issues 9-13 in my eyes, which is ok, need to slow down some so we can pick speed back right up. I doubt we're gonna get to the DJD anytime soon. Gotta wait out Defensor's return to the lost light :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby ScottyP » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:27 am

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Va'al wrote:The comic should not rely on 'right at the end' as much as it does. It has been doing that a lot.
I much preferred TF#45 to this one, with its gradual reveals rather than last page twist.
I can understand that view, but I like the "hook 'em at the end" approach personally. I think for stories like MTMTE where, until plans change, they're set to go on without end work well for that type of teasing. It's like WWE storytelling - it never really ends, and you better watch next time/Sunday/JOHNCENA. Only it's with robots, and it's consistently good.

Plus it keeps us all chatting up about these issues in between releases, which IDW sometimes spaces out in torturous intervals. Probably also helped on this issue knowing that it was a two-parter going in, figured there'd be some hook on the last page and wasn't disappointed.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby MrBlack » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:52 am

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The issue was entertaining enough, but I really can't judge it until I see the rest of the story. It seems Roberts is tying it to the broader story by bringing Fort Max in at the end, but I want to see how it plays out.

It would not surprise me to see a couple of the Scavengers end up returning to Luna 1 with Fort Max, to aid in Grimlock's recovery. Misfire, it seems, is invested in his well-being, and I could see Spinister tagging along, since it would make sense to put a brilliant surgeon in the most advanced medical lab in the galaxy if you're planning on "fixing" Grimlock. And that leaves the rest to take over Demus' business, something I'm sure Krok, at least, would want.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:56 am

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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 01, 2015 7:49 pm

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Fortress Ma...Fortress Ma...

****'s about to get really real.

that's what I thought! Full blown escalation right there! :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby Nemesis Maximo » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:57 pm

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:Fortress Ma...Fortress Ma...

****'s about to get really real.

that's what I thought! Full blown escalation right there! :BOT:

I mean, I was expecting Star Saber. But I feel this is somehow worse, especially given the affiliation of the Scavengers.
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby D-Maximal_Primal » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:26 pm

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Nemesis Maximo wrote:
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:
Nemesis Maximo wrote:Fortress Ma...Fortress Ma...

****'s about to get really real.

that's what I thought! Full blown escalation right there! :BOT:

I mean, I was expecting Star Saber. But I feel this is somehow worse, especially given the affiliation of the Scavengers.

Yeah, If that was Star Saber, I would have been all like "Holy Bejezus!", but instead it is Fort Max, and that is all "HOLY FRIKKIN SCHCABOLI NUTS BATMAN!!!" :BOT:
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Re: IDW Transformers: More Than Meets the Eye #45 Discussion Thread

Postby DarkEnergon » Wed Oct 07, 2015 10:13 am

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So who was Demus talking to? How did FortMax get that role? Is he going to waste all the scavengers or just a couple? I hope not Spinister!

Personally, I loved the issue - can't get enough of the scavengers.
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