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[ZeroWolf]

Good review d-max though one error "13 out of 2 pages" doesn't quite make sense

I wonder if the titan returns back story segment has thrown a wrench into the works of mtmte natural development.

Though I wonder how many people will take Roberts view of the end of this arc being a great series finisher and actually think this series is ending

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Thanks Zero! That has been fixed.

I'm hoping Titans Return doesn't throw a wrench into things, because we are getting good build up here and there are even more continuous hints towards a much bigger storyline. But, I think Roberts can handle it.

[Randomhero]

Wow. I hated it. Lol. This issue was stupid. My first reaction to Overlord is "Jesus is James having a tumblrite right this instead of him?" There's already so much going on and last thing I really wanted was that jackass showing up in a story doesn't need him.

3rd issue out of 5 now and the main cast is still just sitting in a room. Some are even taking naps. This story to me is turning out worse than Remain in Light. It's really gonna come down to the last 8 pages of the final issue with a macguffin saving the day isn't it? I'm pretty much done with it right now.

The art was pretty at least. I'd give it a 1 and 1/2 for that.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

While the main cast is still holed up, it is important to note that they can't really do much. And this issue was more about the bad guys, Megatron, Ratchet and Drift, and they did their parts well. And I thought the introduction of Overlord was surprising as well. But the "benefactors" fixed him up, and I'm betting anything that the strange organics plus Overlord are leading up to the main storyline throughout the series, or whatever has been building up for many years now at least

I'm also kind of surprised Randomhero. I thought you would really like the issue honestly

[Randomhero]

Personally I am too but I just couldn't get into it. I understand why some would love it but for me? I couldn't. Like we've talks before this is probably going to be a series that is going to translate really well in a trade and not month by month issue and for me that's really how it's looking.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Which I do agree with whole-heartedly. I'm notoriously impatient when it comes to thing and 5-parters do make much more sense when put all together.

On the plus side, we did get lots of action in this issue. 13 out of 20 pages featured it in some capacity, though I will admit the one thing that made me sad about the issue. Trailcutter's death was a big deal, for me and for Megatron. Kaon killed him, and I had hoped for some sort of good justice for that, so I was very let down when Tarn ripped his head off for showing love for his pet. I would have preferred some autobot kill him "for Trailcutter" but not to be. That kinda let me down, but it's more personal than actual storyline stuff

[Rodimus Prime]

So do Megatron and Tarn actually fight finally?

I haven't read the issue, but I'm calling it now: If Megatron survives Diying of The Light, he will become Rodimus's mentor, sort of a surrogate Optimus, teaching him how to not be such a...whatever Rodimus can be called, and be a serious, mature leader. Whenever MTMTE winds down, the final fight will be between Rodimus and Overlord, with everything in the balance, and Megatron deciding the fight by killing Overlord and saving Rodimus, if he makes it that far. Otherwise, I'm actually gonna go to my comic shop and read the issue. Not gonna buy it, gonna wait for the TPB, but now I'm very curious.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

So do Megatron and Tarn actually fight finally?

I haven't read the issue, but I'm calling it now: If Megatron survives Diying of The Light, he will become Rodimus's mentor, sort of a surrogate Optimus, teaching him how to not be such a...whatever Rodimus can be called, and be a serious, mature leader. Whenever MTMTE winds down, the final fight will be between Rodimus and Overlord, with everything in the balance, and Megatron deciding the fight by killing Overlord and saving Rodimus, if he makes it that far. Otherwise, I'm actually gonna go to my comic shop and read the issue. Not gonna buy it, gonna wait for the TPB, but now I'm very curious.

Now, you know we can't tell you that! It spoils the whole story! Yes they do, and it is quite dramatic

[Va'al]

Can I re-sub this issue as The Pissing Contest?

I mean, the two major egos clashing here have some excellent exchanges, with the sleazy smarminess of one trumping the blind fanatism of the other. I think that Deathsaurus eyebrow image captures it perfectly.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

Can I re-sub this issue as The Pissing Contest?

I mean, the two major egos clashing here have some excellent exchanges, with the sleazy smarminess of one trumping the blind fanatism of the other. I think that Deathsaurus eyebrow image captures it perfectly.

I think that title works better, go for it! That was probably the hardest part too was coming up with a good title.

Also, the Deathsaurus eyebrow raise to me was the best "personal" image shown. It was just too good not to show

[ZeroWolf]

So do Megatron and Tarn actually fight finally?

I haven't read the issue, but I'm calling it now: If Megatron survives Diying of The Light, he will become Rodimus's mentor, sort of a surrogate Optimus, teaching him how to not be such a...whatever Rodimus can be called, and be a serious, mature leader. Whenever MTMTE winds down, the final fight will be between Rodimus and Overlord, with everything in the balance, and Megatron deciding the fight by killing Overlord and saving Rodimus, if he makes it that far. Otherwise, I'm actually gonna go to my comic shop and read the issue. Not gonna buy it, gonna wait for the TPB, but now I'm very curious.

I like that idea a lot.

So I can't say I'm too surprised about the reveal given what has been teased for the toy line next year, but with the idea if organics helping, is this going to be a tease for the future introduction of power/god masters?

[Randomhero]

This issue I have with overlord is "what is he doing here? He's not dying in the next issue or two. He's all set up for later and while it's a bit bold we can probably conclude is his secret benefactors are the cog faction Cybertronians and if that's what it is than I find it kind of just more build up to something that's already getting pretty built up and will not have a pay off anything soon. The DJD is more than enough of a threat, throw in 500 more deceptions that's even worse. The DJD alone killed 200 autobots, adding overlord in this story is just stupid at this point to me.

[RevTibe]

If we count the DJD's reveal in the beginning of this arc (debatable, I know), we've had a surprise character reveal in each issue so far. Wonder if the trend will continue .

I think that the Titans Return stuff should fit in well - hopefully it'll take the form of a "break" between the Dying of the Light arc and the eventual return to the Lost Light, the delay making the return to the LL more dramatic.

That said, I think their eventual return has been fairly clearly telegraphed - the prior few issues put a surprising amount of ink into establishing that they had a subspace window thing that people on Cybertron/Luna 1 could use to mail packages to the LL. Rodimus squeezing through an interstellar mailbox to take the ship back sounds like an incredibly MTMTE thing to do.

I don't think the organics are a lead-in to power/god-masters - remember, these organics are of a similar height to TFs (hence their pods being too big to fit through the "Quantum door").

[Rodimus Prime]

I don't think the organics are a lead-in to power/god-masters - remember, these organics are of a similar height to TFs (hence their pods being too big to fit through the "Quantum door").

What that made me think of was the Pretenders from the G1 comics. Their shells were "organic" to shield them from mecha-detection.

Also, after having read the issue at my comic book store, all I have to say is

[sabrigami]

Wow. A shocking issue.

wow. Overlord. I kinda sat there like a deer in the headlights for a few seconds while that one processed lol. But I have to say, is it kind of bad I'm rooting for him? I loved how he was trolling Tarn and co. I mean gosh, you know you're loosing it when a creep like Overlord has your number. I have a very good feeling that Tarn is going to loose his support system very very soon too. At the very least I imagine Nickel and Deathsaurus are going to have a change of heart very soon.

Poor Kaon (not!). Such an ironic death, and it was delicious. I may have missed it somewhere, but I kinda wish they explained why he is so attatched to that pet of his. oh well. Doesn't matter now.

It might just be me, but Rewind is giving me a lot of pause. I get why he is like that, he's lived through hell etc...but he is one cold son of a gun. It's almost like he doesn't really love Chromey. No fan of his, but I could almost imagine this rewind throwing him under the bus in a heartbeat if it meant he could have Dominus back. makes me sad and worried. this Rewind has no scruples about killing to get the job done either (he didn't hesitate with Megs after all). Dunno, feel some major red flags.


I also noticed that in the flashback they still didn't show Overlord's hands. Looks like Rewind #1 will be back too. though that would mean he is in the hands of Overlord's "benefactors". I can't imagine it will be pretty. Probably the same ones who stole Pharma's body...maybe even Tyrest now that I think about it. my money is on Quintessons.

Overall, I am stoked for the climax. It will be bloddy epic

Edit: I forgot to mention much I am loving Megs. I've never been a big fan, but damn I love him in this comic. he's the boss!

[BATTLEMASTER IIC]

Based on the look of Megatron's chest wound, maybe the spacebridge technology in his body saved his life? Doesn't look like there's much to damage in there.

[Mr Skram]

More stalling. Nothing really happened, just some of Tarn's bluster between him and Megatron. And then again with Overlord.I wish I hadn't gotten impatient after reading all the previous trade paperbacks because I agree this will probably end up being pretty decent to great if read in a single sitting or two. Issue by issue, though, it feels like a whole lot of nothing with a bunch of potentially good interactions being glossed over for the sake of getting to the next one to the next, etc. Who knows, maybe the finale of this arc will save it for me.

But yeah, Overlord... I got the feeling the Quintessons were involved as well. No real reason for it, just the first thing that came to mind.

As far as the organics possibly being pretenders, well maybe they're also Titanmasters underneath all the tissue and junk and that's how it all ties into the upcoming line. They save Team Rodimus by pairing with and powering up Rod, Megs, and whoever else. Then after the day is saved the Titanmasters contact their people(another of the lost tribes, or a combination of a couple tribes) and they go back to Cybertron offering upgrades to anyone willing.

Could be why it feels like they're taking so long to wrap this up. Hasbro might have handed down the order and Roberts needed to adapt.

Just some wild speculation. I'd be more okay with that as a Mcguffin scenario rather than something else like someone teleporting and calling for backup.

[Va'al]

Wow. A shocking issue.

It might just be me, but Rewind is giving me a lot of pause. I get why he is like that, he's lived through hell etc...but he is one cold son of a gun. It's almost like he doesn't really love Chromey. No fan of his, but I could almost imagine this rewind throwing him under the bus in a heartbeat if it meant he could have Dominus back. makes me sad and worried. this Rewind has no scruples about killing to get the job done either (he didn't hesitate with Megs after all). Dunno, feel some major red flags.

Yes. Yes. There was a lot of pause, emphatically so, on that scene. Something doesn't feel right here either.

[Burn]

I was bored. I'm now frustratingly bored with this story arc. It's just been drawn out too long. Wrap it up already.

[Mr Skram]

I was bored. I'm now frustratingly bored with this story arc. It's just been drawn out too long. Wrap it up already.

Sitting around in flowery fields for more than several issues isn't an interesting story arc?


I honestly couldn't believe nothing really happened yet again.

[Burn]

Sitting around in flowery fields for more than several issues isn't an interesting story arc?

Oh don't get me wrong, I really do love all the flowers ... they're awesome, in fact I wish they'd do an entire series on TF's gardening habits.
It would be awesome.
Totally awesome.
Gawd I wish this issue had gone somewhere.

[Ironhidensh]

Overload was kind of a "jumping the shark". Moment for me. Totally came out of left field, and not in a good way. The further insight into Megatron's mind was good though.

[Va'al]

Sitting around in flowery fields for more than several issues isn't an interesting story arc?

Oh don't get me wrong, I really do love all the flowers ... they're awesome, in fact I wish they'd do an entire series on TF's gardening habits.
It would be awesome.
Totally awesome.
Gawd I wish this issue had gone somewhere.

Megatron: City Planner is in the works, as I gather.

[snavej]

If Tarn was so against Kaon and the others having a pet, he should have got rid of the pet before the DJD became attached to it. Tarn is a very experienced commander. He should know that affection leads to all kinds of problems in the ranks. Now, he has lost a valuable team member for no good reason. His judgment is seriously flawed and I would not be surprised if he and the DJD are in big trouble in the long run.

[D-Maximal_Primal]

If Tarn was so against Kaon and the others having a pet, he should have got rid of the pet before the DJD became attached to it. Tarn is a very experienced commander. He should know that affection leads to all kinds of problems in the ranks. Now, he has lost a valuable team member for no good reason. His judgment is seriously flawed and I would not be surprised if he and the DJD are in big trouble in the long run.

I think it's more like Tarn liked the pet, but after his talk with Megatron he realized emotion was an issue, so when Kaon's judgement was clouded by the captured pet, he got angry. He thinks emotion is bad now and wants rid of it