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IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Va'al » Fri Aug 01, 2014 2:49 pm

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New month, new comics series, same robots - join us in taking a look at the third chapter in the Cybertron Wars prequel series by Chris Metzen, Flint Dille and Livio Ramondelli, Transformers: Primacy. This is a very brief preview courtesy of iTunes, and quite probably of IDW digital assistant Mariel Romero who uploaded the lot. Check 'em out below!

Transformers: Primacy #1
Chris Metzen & Flint Dille (w) • Livio Ramondelli (a, c)
THE WAR FOR CYBERTRON! Optimus Prime versus Megatron. Autobots versus Decepticons. At the dawn of the conflict, battle lines are drawn and sides are set… now legends will be made. The war that would define a planet begins in earnest—and its revelations will shake the TRANSFORMERS’ world to the core!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

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- The end of the beginning!
- The final chapter of monumental Cybertron War trilogy!
- Written by World of Warcraft and Diablo’s Chris Metzen and the legendary Transformers writer Flint Dille!
- Variant Cover by Casey Coller!
- Art by fan-favorite Livio Ramondelli!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:13 pm

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Hmmm as much as I'm interested I think I'll wait and see if IDW put out a collection for the whole trilogy.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Va'al » Fri Aug 01, 2014 4:28 pm

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This one will be four issues, then a collected trade like the first two.
But this time round, it'll be digital and print release on the same day, rather than digital first.

I can't imagine IDW won't have a HC Deluxe Optimum SuperFine Edition of the three together, though. ;)
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby hunter4life » Sat Aug 02, 2014 6:57 am

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thats quite a twister. i would never expect to see slinger turn to a peaceful bot into a violent simple minded decepticon thug. just saying because at the end of autoracty, he tells bumblebee that the survivors of nyon will become historians of the past and future. just saying ;)
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IDW Transformers: Primacy #1 Preview

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 12, 2014 4:09 am

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It's been a while since the Flint Dille, Chris Metzen and Livio Ramondelli creative team were together for Autocracy and Monstrosity, in their digital and printed forms. But they're back this week with the first issue to the conclusion of the trilogy: Transformers Primacy! Check out a full preview below, and head back here for the Seibertron.com review later this week.

Transformers: Primacy #1—SPOTLIGHT
Chris Metzen & Flint Dille (w) • Livio Ramondelli (a, c)
THE WAR FOR CYBERTRON! Optimus Prime versus Megatron. Autobots versus Decepticons. At the dawn of the conflict, battle lines are drawn and sides are set… now legends will be made. The war that would define a planet begins in earnest—and its revelations will shake the TRANSFORMERS’ world to the core!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
The end of the beginning!
The final chapter of monumental Cybertron War trilogy!
Written by World of Warcraft and Diablo’s Chris Metzen and the legendary Transformers writer Flint Dille!
Variant Cover by Casey Coller!
Art by fan-favorite Livio Ramondelli!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Tue Aug 12, 2014 6:44 am

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I do enjoy seeing prime not acting like prime if that makes sense.
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IDW Transformers: Primacy #1 Review

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:12 pm

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And then there were three
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Synopsis
THE WAR FOR CYBERTRON! Optimus Prime versus Megatron. Autobots versus Decepticons. At the dawn of the conflict, battle lines are drawn and sides are set… now legends will be made. The war that would define a planet begins in earnest—and its revelations will shake the TRANSFORMERS’ world to the core!

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Trust No-one


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Autocracy did some really interesting things by taking politics to a whole other level. Monstrosity brought 'the Quintessons' and Trypticon back into the game. Primacy is supposed to shape the IDW Transformers universe as we know it - so what is the missing link between the fall of Trypticon and the rise of Megatron? It looks like issue 1 starts answering that question.

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Reeee-cap


The focus of Chris Metzen and Flint Dille appears to be shifting between Optimus Prime and Megatron as they both 'recover' from the happenings in the previous two mini-series, with the latter in particular sometimes questioning (?) his actions - and yet, at the same time, we also have some nice interactions between Grimlock and Rodimus, Optimus and Ironhide, Megatron and.. well. You'll see.

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Rodlock?


There is one major snag in the issue, during Optimus' sections, which I'm hoping will get explained later in the series - but for now it's not too distracting (for me at least), and considering John Barber is editing the work, some kind of patching could always take place at another stage, or there's a better reason for it happening as it does.

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Or not


All in all, there are some big set-ups for this run, with some nice interactions between the key players, and some past exploration and world-defining, delving into pre-established elements of the franchise and plots hinted at in both Autocracy and Monstrosity, and the wider IDWverse.

Art

Livio Ramondelli resumes his task of showing us the beginning of Cybertron's dark ages, with his trademark darker style and colours, shining on big splash pages and spreads, and I mean BIG. The characters, the scope, the layouts - there's a sense of size and scale that follows from some of the later chapter in Monstrosity sliding into here, and not just in the art itself.

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Big city lights


The colours obviously work well with the linework, and there are some nicely contrasting tones in some flashback sequences. The eye differences are a nice touch too, with Grimlock, Optimus and Megatron showing off different optics. And a very nice touch comes from letterer Chris Mowry, helping with giving a voice to the different characters, each in its own slightly unique way, and some great translucent sound effects.

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Colours!


I'll take a little longer on the covers, as the main one by Ramondelli is but a fourth of the series' run, but it is joined by an amazing Optimus Prime revealing the matrix by Windblade's Sarah Stone (a nice echo of one of the moments shown above) and an excellent 30th Anniversary variant by Casey Coller and JP Bove, commemorating the smelting pool and poor Scrounge (see thumbnail).


Thoughts
Spoilerish ahead

Metzen and Dille's writing is slightly different from the rest of IDW's current output, but still holds its appeal with both older audiences and fans of the more modern ongoings. And their style fits the tone and time of the story, without any doubt, focusing on the two main players of the beginning of the war. Ramondelli's art returns to complement them, and I very happy to have Barber on editing, making sure it all fits in together - even with Omega's confusing statements.

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And so do we


It's an easing into the story again, definitely. Some big stuff went down in what leads us to this point, and with this issue we're discovering bigger things still slowly emerging from Cybertron's past and leading into its future. And there are much much bigger things to come, if the last pages are anything to go by. Big things indeed.

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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby RiddlerJ » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:40 pm

At this point, poor Scrounge is probably the character most due for a toy.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Rodimus Prime » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:36 pm

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So are Monstrosity and Autocracy required reading for this? Because I haven't read those, and I am actually intrigued by this, especially the exchange between Rodimus and Grimlock.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 13, 2014 3:43 pm

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Required? No. Helpful? Yes.

I enjoyed both books, but Monstrosity definitely feeds more into this than Autocracy did with Monstrosity.
Maybe give the wiki page a read, if you don't want to track them down? :-?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Tigertrack » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:06 am

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I got a tad confused by some of the things as well, the Omega statements were the worst offenders.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Dead Metal » Thu Aug 14, 2014 1:07 pm

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Rodimus Prime wrote:So are Monstrosity and Autocracy required reading for this? Because I haven't read those, and I am actually intrigued by this, especially the exchange between Rodimus and Grimlock.

If you're interested, get Comixology, and check with Autocracy and Monstrosity. IDW will likely have a -50% sale on the collected edition of at least one of those. That's how I got Autocracy which got me interested in Monstrosity.

I've learned my lesson from Monstrosity, I'm waiting for a sale after the series is over. Getting each chapter as it came out was kinda cool because I was on the same page as everyone else, but the writing's not exactly brilliant, the art is not very good and all that makes it all kinda hard to follow. On top of that it just kinda pissed me off writing style wise. Too much recycled stuff and half of it makes no sense.

It's also weird how everybody in this series is pretty much the same as what they're like in the present, except Kup, Kup is a "young" Autobot. Why the hell is Kup the only one to freaking age in this?

Sure it's kinda enjoyable but, not something I need right away.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Va'al » Wed Aug 20, 2014 9:51 am

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Yet more comics news from IDW Publishing! This time, we take a look at the Sarah Stone variant cover for the second issue of Transformers: Primacy, out next month, courtesy of the IDW Tumblr - including Stone's clean version from her own blog. Check them out below!

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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Wed Aug 20, 2014 10:02 am

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I love her art work, it's so clear, and her starscreams always look so devious.
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IDW Transformers: Primacy Mini-Series Video Trailer

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 26, 2014 2:35 am

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Hailing from the Facebook page of IDW artist Livio Ramondelli, we get a look at a trailer for his latest work with Transformers, along with Metzen and Dille: Primacy. The clip is by video game producer, writer and designer John Zuur Platten, and is embedded below. May contain some slight spoilers for issue #1 - of which you can read our review here!

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Sneak Peek - IDW Transformers: Primacy #2

Postby Va'al » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:01 am

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There may be no new Transformers comics coming out next week, but iTunes (via IDW's Mariel Romero) comes to our rescue by providing the usual three-page preview. Check out below a sneak peak at the second issue of Transformers: Primacy!

DECEPTICONS ASSEMBLE! The war for CYBERTRON begins in earnest! MEGATRON brings together the deadliest of his troops for an unbelievable assault on the AUTOBOTS—and the TRANSFORMERS’ world is shaken to the core!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby ZeroWolf » Sat Aug 30, 2014 11:14 am

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A quick question, how long is this set before Thunderwing gets his idea on how to save Cybertron? IDW continuity can be a bit confusing with the very early stuff.
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IDW Transformers: Primacy #3 Sarah Stone Variant Cover Revealed

Postby Va'al » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:59 pm

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Via the IDW Publishing Facebook page, we get a look at the Sarah Stone variant cover for the third issue of Transformers: Primacy - featuring a black and white, with red highlights, Starscream in all his glory. Check it out below!

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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby padfoo » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:17 pm

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Amazing art; however while looking at it gave me a Starscream in a nightclub fight vibe.
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy #3 Sarah Stone Variant Cover Revealed

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IDW Transformers: Primacy #2 Full Preview

Postby Va'al » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:47 am

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Ready to get ready for something BIG about to happen in the past of the Transformers? Check out this week's comic release from IDW Publishing: Primacy #2! From the Dille, Metzen, Ramondelli team, who are definitely brewing something up for the series - and we'll talk about it in our review on Wednesday, so head back to Seibertron.com then.

Transformers: Primacy #2 (of 4)
Chris Metzen & Flint Dille (w) • Livio Ramondelli (a & c)
DECEPTICONS ASSEMBLE! The war for CYBERTRON begins in earnest! MEGATRON brings together the deadliest of his troops for an unbelievable assault on the AUTOBOTS—and the TRANSFORMERS’ world is shaken to the core!
FC • 32 pages • $3.99

Bullet points:
The End of the Beginning of the TRANSFORMERS Saga!
30th Anniversary Variant Cover by Sarah Stone!


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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby FruitBuyer » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:09 am

It's like I'm reading the Marvel run with that obnoxious name-dropping. Then again it is that hack Metzen writing.
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Postby BumbleDouche » Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:00 am

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Aaannnddd Ramondelli is back at it again: Poorly sequenced art leaving you to wonder what exactly is supposed to be going on. On top of that, what's up with the Predacons? We've seen them in pre-Earth modes in stories set much later than this (but still before they arrived on Earth)... But now we're seeing them possibly at the earliest in the IDW timeline so far, at a period millions of years before their arrival on Earth yet they are bearing the alt-modes of Earth animals that may not have even evolved yet? :HEADHURTS:
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

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"Canis Tor"? Really?
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Re: IDW Transformers: Primacy Discussion Thread - Previews, Reviews, Interviews and More

Postby Va'al » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:11 am

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MegaDump wrote:On top of that, what's up with the Predacons? We've seen them in pre-Earth modes in stories set much later than this (but still before they arrived on Earth)... But now we're seeing them possibly at the earliest in the IDW timeline so far, at a period millions of years before their arrival on Earth yet they are bearing the alt-modes of Earth animals that may not have even evolved yet? :HEADHURTS:


Hm. You have a point here.

I just checked Stormbringer and Spotlight: Jazz, and they're definitely sporting their pre-Earth modes in both of those. And they're on Earth in the latter, too. :-?

This is the second inconsistency with the established continuity so far - though I wonder if it's more for the sake of the upcoming Combiner Wars than anything: new readers may not go as far back as the early Furman/McCarthy run, and the alt-modes would need explaining to the new audience.
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