bumblezzz wrote:IM NOT TELLING ANYONE TO SHUT UP FOOL!
G1 toys really sucked. the only good ones were soundwave and the cassettes. and G1 is not cheesy. I love G1 but I don't think of the film anywhere near G1 I think the film is a new story and it really is, so says Bay! i really don't give a care if they look like the love child of a terninater and I pile of SHIZZLESNIT ether. and second a pile of crap can have a baby and nether can a robot. Really people you all tell me to chill but yet you all need to too. (All who hate the film anyway).
Bay is full of crap. If he said child molesting was good 'cause he did it, would you agree? Tell me of one person that insults the item they are trying to sell. Bay didn't know anything about Transformers before the movie, and he probably still doesn't. He never even wanted to make a Transformers movie when he was asked, but he wanted to make another "Alien go BOOM!" movie and he needed a franchise on the front to sell it, so he changed his mind. Bay has shown no regard to the Transformers brand and absolouty NONE for the fans. To your last sentence, it's as I said at the begining of this conversation, you have no right to tell anyone to "chill" or shut up because they disagree with you. You need to stop telling movie haters to "chill", 'cause there are people that will flame the crud out of you. So practice what you preach, and "chill".
As for G1 toys, technology was limited in toys at the time, and the ball joint wasn't around until G2. Poseability wasn't even a major demand. Research other 80's toys for proof.
All new continualities contain some hint of G1. Beast Wars/Machines tied in with G1; RID was a combo of G1 and Beast Wars; Armada, Energon, and Cybertron were the best examples of a G1 reimagining, no matter how many disagree. Prime looked like Prime, Megs became a Tank like G2, and Starscream looked like Starscream. There was just a new twist in the mix. Through Energon and Cybertron, we saw Megs gradually change in form and personality. The same went for Starscream, as he became more like his G1 counterpart. G1 homage characters were made here and there, and new changes had decent explainations. This cannot be said for the movie, as most of the radical changes have no good explainations other than "They're alien".
A franchise movie is also supposed to represent the franchise as a whole. This movie does nothing to respect Transformers, but instead, they make it completely different. There is a member here(I won't mention names) that likes the movie and openly trashes everything else from G1 to Cybertron that actually admited to only liking gothic anime and demons. If they only like these things, then it shows what this movie represents. This makes me fear for the influx of fans like these who will openly welcome the movie and push for changing Transformers into their liking, killing what Transformers ultimatly is. If you want this to happen, I fear for the souls of the world...