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I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

Stormrider wrote:I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

I dunno. I suppose there's nothing wrong with the colours and paint apps themselves, it's just that these are the final products and I'm just not seeing something worth $120.

Sodan-1 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

I dunno. I suppose there's nothing wrong with the colours and paint apps themselves, it's just that these are the final products and I'm just not seeing something worth $120.

well, each does come with about 3 or 4 figures worth of weapons, and considering iGear charged about the price of a Deluxe for 4 guns not that long ago, I think you can take some of that into consideration.

I suppose I agree that the colours aren't 100% perfect, but Ratchet and Ironhide were never sporting the most sophisticated paint jobs. I would have liked Ratchet's arms completely white, and really, I'd have thought Ironhide should have grey rather than black on his non-red parts, but the alt modes are fantastic, the robots seem to have loads of poseability and some nice little features, like the fold out comms panels.

I'm not overly keen on most of the alternate heads. Ironhide's ones are okay. Very IDW-y, but I'd have preferred if there was only one comic head and one of the cartoon head in a more characterful expression. Stll, the basic head is plenty good, and at least everyone gets the choice. Other people might have different preferences from me. Ratchet's heads are a bit different too. Again, too much black where it should, IMO be grey. I really don't like the alternate white head. I think it's really horrible. Like, FOC/Energon Optimus Prime horrible. But...they gave us Comic-Ratchet's head! So all is almost forgiven. I will be popping that on right away if I get this guy, so he can pretty much make 83% of the rest of the Autobots irrelevant in his awesomeness.

Do I wish they were cheaper? Yes. Do I really like them anyway? Yes.

I'll keep my preorders.

craggy wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

I dunno. I suppose there's nothing wrong with the colours and paint apps themselves, it's just that these are the final products and I'm just not seeing something worth $120.

well, each does come with about 3 or 4 figures worth of weapons, and considering iGear charged about the price of a Deluxe for 4 guns not that long ago, I think you can take some of that into consideration.

True, but then again it's fairly easy to spend $15 just going about your day. $120 is a special occasion. Times that by two and I'd be looking for a happy ending as well. I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more complaining about the price of these given people's issue with $80-$100 for a TFC Constructicon, and just look at what you were getting at the end of it.

Sodan-1 wrote:

craggy wrote:

Sodan-1 wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

I dunno. I suppose there's nothing wrong with the colours and paint apps themselves, it's just that these are the final products and I'm just not seeing something worth $120.

well, each does come with about 3 or 4 figures worth of weapons, and considering iGear charged about the price of a Deluxe for 4 guns not that long ago, I think you can take some of that into consideration.

True, but then again it's fairly easy to spend $15 just going about your day. $120 is a special occasion. Times that by two and I'd be looking for a happy ending as well. I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more complaining about the price of these given people's issue with $80-$100 for a TFC Constructicon, and just look at what you were getting at the end of it.

haha! I get what you're saying. Hercules is definitely too much for me, but I can definitely see myself stretching the budget to get one or both of these guys. (Really like Ratchet, but it'd be sorta wrong to have this Ratchet, and then Classics Ironhide next to him...would explain IH's depressed look though I suppose )

Like Tigertracks says, I wish they were cheaper, but I really like them. It was just seeing the final colours and a proper size comparison (and the price) that kept me from pre-ordering. Release date being the end of this month means that it might be these I spring for as a present to myself rather than one of the 3rd party Devastators.

They look great. But they are too large to fit with classics and too small to fit with the MP line. They would make great book ends though.

Stormrider wrote:I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

I've had these on pre-order since day one, and I love the Mold's and the accessories and everything. But the colors are glaringly bland. Much more unappealing is the lack of details, for the money I'd expect just more detail, not so much plain red.

I'd rather have more paint app's then accessories.

Rated X wrote:They look great. But they are too large to fit with classics and too small to fit with the MP line. They would make great book ends though.

iGear just has a problem with scale IMO.

RodimalToyota wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

I've had these on pre-order since day one, and I love the Mold's and the accessories and everything. But the colors are glaringly bland. Much more unappealing is the lack of details, for the money I'd expect just more detail, not so much plain red.

I'd rather have more paint app's then accessories.

I always found their alt modes boring. It's hard to get around the fact that the alt modes and paint schemes don't possess as much detail compared to other figures and they're not that interesting (if you stay true to the G1 version). I feel they did a pretty good job adding detail to the bot modes such as the forearms, legs, and abdomen (which is more noticeable on Ratchet).

The thing I am most worried about is QC. I don't want to have parts falling off, breaking, or not fitting together. But then again, that didn't stop the Ark playset from selling out.

Stormrider wrote:

RodimalToyota wrote:

Stormrider wrote:I don't understand why people are not impressed with the paint apps. Can you elaborate more? They look pretty good to me, but perhaps I am missing something.

I've had these on pre-order since day one, and I love the Mold's and the accessories and everything. But the colors are glaringly bland. Much more unappealing is the lack of details, for the money I'd expect just more detail, not so much plain red.

I'd rather have more paint app's then accessories.

I always found their alt modes boring. It's hard to get around the fact that the alt modes and paint schemes don't possess as much detail compared to other figures and they're not that interesting (if you stay true to the G1 version). I feel they did a pretty good job adding detail to the bot modes such as the forearms, legs, and abdomen (which is more noticeable on Ratchet).

The thing I am most worried about is QC. I don't want to have parts falling off, breaking, or not fitting together. But then again, that didn't stop the Ark playset from selling out.

I agree with what you said, I just don't agree with a 129$ price tag.
If these were $89.99, I'd be willing to accept it and purchase both.
but this is 40$ more then MP Sideswipe, which is a high quality licensed product. This is a unknown quality and a questionable success rate with iGear product. Maybe after a few reviews, but still.. 130$.. it's too much IMO

I got the iGear MiniWarrior Rager aka Huffer and he's really nice, quality wise. Also have the Kup heads which were spot on, but yeah, this is a whole other level. Still, I remain positive.

I wish the top of their heads was about to the shoulder of MP-10. Oh well, I guess I'll have to wait for Has/Tak to do it right.

I have both of these pre-ordered at BBTS. I am on the fence whether or not to delete the pre-order and wait for the reviews and risk these selling out. Or, keep them and hope there aren't any defects.

Stormrider wrote:I have both of these pre-ordered at BBTS. I am on the fence whether or not to delete the pre-order and wait for the reviews and risk these selling out. Or, keep them and hope there aren't any defects.

So keep the order and keep them in your POL till the reviews are in. If they aren't to your liking, cancel the order for store credit...

Note that with BBTS POL, there's now a cancellation fee involved.

daimchoc wrote:Note that with BBTS POL, there's now a cancellation fee involved.

I don't see that in the rules:

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/content.aspx?content=4

daimchoc wrote:Note that with BBTS POL, there's now a cancellation fee involved.

What is the BBTS cancellation policy?
Products may be cancelled within 15 days of product purchase. This date is based on each individual product's purchase date, not the date of order placement or payment. No cancellations will be acepted after 15 days of the product purchase. This policy applies only to items that have not yet shipped.

By the time they drop in your POL at BBTS, there should be plenty of reviews by two weeks later.

Kibble wrote:

daimchoc wrote:Note that with BBTS POL, there's now a cancellation fee involved.

What is the BBTS cancellation policy?
Products may be cancelled within 15 days of product purchase. This date is based on each individual product's purchase date, not the date of order placement or payment. No cancellations will be acepted after 15 days of the product purchase. This policy applies only to items that have not yet shipped.

By the time they drop in your POL at BBTS, there should be plenty of reviews by two weeks later.

Thanks. I have been shopping there for a few years and never knew about the cancellation or policies. I appreciate it.

Only available items that have been in the POL... is what I'm talking about...

Hi -----, I have canceled those items from your POL and you have been refunded in store credit. In the future, there is a fee to cancel any items older than 15 days from a POL.



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Jessica
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http://www.BigBadToyStore.com

Damn it.. I wish I had the extra cash for these guys..

Cyber Bishop wrote:Damn it.. I wish I had the extra cash for these guys..

I think we're calling it dosh these days...or so I'm told. The one nice thing about pre-ordering these bastards a year ago, I had the 'dosh' to do it then. Not so sure I could swing it now. Just gotta cross my fingers I don't have to deal with iGear's wonderful customer service.

Kibble wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Damn it.. I wish I had the extra cash for these guys..

I think we're calling it dosh these days.../quote]
you're well behind the times. It's "Wongaaa!" now.

Smart move on ordering them early, I suppose. I wanted to wait to see the colours, and now I don't know if I can afford them.

From iGear's site - release date pushed back to 7/30.