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Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby floptimus » Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:03 am

Michael Bay has been confirmed to direct Transformers 4. The first three were decidedly flawed. Here are some of the improvements I'd like to see made in the fourth instalment.

-Don't make the robots look so complex and mechanical. Giving the robots a simpler look will make the robots more visually appealing, the action sequences will be easier to follow, and it will cost less per frame to animate the robots; meaning that the robots could have substantially more screen time.

-Make the story about the robots. The thing which has upset me the most about the first three films is that they were essentially about the humans who were running around screaming while the robots fought. A transformers film should be about the conflict between the transformers, and not about Shia Labeouf's love life. Transformers: Prime has demonstrated that it is possible to inject a human element into Transformers fiction without allowing it to overpower the story of the robots.

-Give the robots discernible personalities. Transformers has arguably been such an enduring franchise because people liked the characters. Optimus is noble and brave. Prowl is logical and efficient. Starscream is ambitious and treacherous. Soundwave is unwaveringly loyal. Ironhide is headstrong and tough. People have enjoyed the Transformers media over such a long period of time because the robots, in all of their incarnations, had these clearly defined characteristics which made them more interesting. The personalities of the robots were not terribly well conveyed in the films; the robots simply fought each other while the humans ran around screaming. Take Shockwave as an example. In the G1 cartoon Shockwave was a brilliant and ruthless tactician who was loyal to Cybertron. In the films, Shockwave simply made gurgling noises as he wandered around in search of enemies. Another example is Starscream; whose desire to overthrow Megatron has not yet been conveyed in the live actions films. Giving the robots clear and distinguishable personalities would make the film a lot more interesting and would improve the story enormously.

While this is what I would like to see, it probably won't happen. Michael Bay's formula for Transformers has proven to be commercially successful, so I doubt that anything will change in Transformers 4. Nevertheless, one can always dream. What would you like to see in Transformers 4? Post your thoughts below.
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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby cotss2012 » Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:48 pm

I'd like everyone who had any involvement with the first three movies to be fired and banned from ever working in Hollywood again.

Then, I'd have Joss Whedon, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, Ronald D. Moore, and J. Michael Straczynski each write a script. I'd pick the best one, add the best parts from the other 3, and hand it to Peter Jackson. Daft Punk would do the soundtrack and the special effects would be handled by the same team that did Firefly and BSG.

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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby MasterSoundBlaster » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:41 pm

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floptimus wrote:-Don't make the robots look so complex and mechanical. Giving the robots a simpler look will make the robots more visually appealing, the action sequences will be easier to follow, and it will cost less per frame to animate the robots; meaning that the robots could have substantially more screen time.


Never actually thought about this but I really like the idea.

floptimus wrote:-Make the story about the robots. The thing which has upset me the most about the first three films is that they were essentially about the humans who were running around screaming while the robots fought. A transformers film should be about the conflict between the transformers, and not about Shia Labeouf's love life. Transformers: Prime has demonstrated that it is possible to inject a human element into Transformers fiction without allowing it to overpower the story of the robots.

-Give the robots discernible personalities.


Nail on the head

Less drones as well. The 2007 movie was cooler without the use of a faceless 1000 man decepticon army
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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:47 pm

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MasterSoundBlaster wrote:Less drones as well. The 2007 movie was cooler without the use of a faceless 1000 man decepticon army


It was not. All the Decepticons got killed off in 10 minutes. More Decepticons = more of a threat. TF Prime does the same thing.

One improvement of mine: More explosions.
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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby Capt.Failure » Tue Apr 03, 2012 4:00 am

cotss2012 wrote:I'd like everyone who had any involvement with the first three movies to be fired and banned from ever working in Hollywood again.


Your angry fanboy is showing. You should cover that up, or take meds for it.

Then, I'd have Joss Whedon, Robert Hewitt Wolfe, Ronald D. Moore, and J. Michael Straczynski each write a script.


Not who I'd chose, but new script writers are a good idea.

I'd pick the best one, add the best parts from the other 3, and hand it to Peter Jackson.


Bays style of directing is just fine for the movies, it's the writing that needs fixing. Jackson would be terrible for a movie of this type.

Daft Punk would do the soundtrack and the special effects would be handled by the same team that did Firefly and BSG.


God no. The scores and the effects are the two things the majority agrees were good about the films. Why would you change that?

Of course you hate everything about the films to the point that you can't be taken seriously. :roll:
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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby Rushie » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:26 am

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cotss2012 wrote:I'd like everyone who had any involvement with the first three movies to be fired and banned from ever working in Hollywood again.


wow... just wow. So the costumers, make-up people, lighting personell, audio technicians, producers, cable guys, stunt men, pyrotechnicians etc weren't doing their job good enough for you? I know you hate the films with a passion, but you and I both know its problems are solely at the storyline and look of the film. Keep the hundreds of hard working people out of this.
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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby Equinox234 » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:39 pm

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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby Capt.Failure » Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:49 pm

The general prediction at this time is that we're going to see a near future setting post Dark of the Moon, much like G1 post animated film.
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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby PrymeStriker » Sat Sep 01, 2012 12:37 pm

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I thought TF4 was going to be a reboot, as if the last 3 movies didn't exist. I'm getting really confused now.
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Re: Improvements for Transformers 4

Postby TulioDude » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:28 pm

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PrymeStriker wrote:I thought TF4 was going to be a reboot, as if the last 3 movies didn't exist. I'm getting really confused now.

Michael Bay confirmed a few months back that TF4 wasn't gonna be a reboot.You could probaly find information in the forum without much scrolling back.
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