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Johndoe4880 wrote:the Qc problems that are listed. are from a mix of venders.

Okay, so, any idea which vendors these are? One that we can exclude is BBTS, since they only just recently got their first orders sent out.

I don't think the vendors are to blame, and I don't even think the QC problems are in specific batches of FM. The QC problems are mostly incidental: execpt for one or maybe two of the problems mentioned (tight legs on Cerebros) they do not seem to be universal: almost all of the problems were only mentioned by one poster each.
I've said it before: I'm pretty sure that back in 1987 the original Fortress Max's had the same kinds of incidental QC-problems as mentioned here: except back then there was no option to be so vocal about sharing these problems with the world (no internet).
By the way, TFSource and BBTS are and will be shipping out from the same batch as all the others: it's just that their stock took a while to get to the US and some of their stock (again, all from the same batch) has been taking it's sweet time cruising across the Pacific to the US. The vendors that have been shipping their stock out are the Japan- and Hong Kong-based vendors (HLJ, AE, RK, EtoysJapan, to name a few) with quick access to the factory stock.

i happen to agree.

some of the venders are mostly from japan, tf source, robot kingdom, HLJ. i don't Know about bbts. heard about others too.

bbts is from usa.

i haven't got mine yet.

i tried to get a better deal from robot kingdom. they included a coin and a headphone jack of fort max. witch was $299.99 + shipping. i got a better deal with bbts. becasue of shipping was over 125 dollars making fort max 419 when bbts it was only 350 with shipping and all.

i have to wait late April early may for mine.

some one posted this. this is from hlj

Yeah you really have no idea how big this thing is until you own one or see it in-person. Yikes! I don't get the "cheap" feeling for the plastic like some others have, but then again I've never had a good feel for that.

Wow though. Goddamn.

also too someone said they got there cerbrous figure but it had two right legs.

However, upon a closer inspection i noticed Cerebros came with two right legs

Im gonna contact HLJ right now, but knowing them i might end keeping the figure anyway

I had the floppy helipad issue as well, but fixed it this morning.

There's a white plastic catch inside the diecast pare of the helipad, that's supposed to catch on a protruding piece of grey plastic at the hinge, but it wasn't. I first tried extending the grey plastic with nail varnish, but no joy.

I disassembled the helipad to get at the diecast connector, then unscrewed the white plastic. Be careful when you do this, there's a strong spring in there, so push in the rotating red tab the entire time you're unscrewing and removing.

The catch on the white plastic had been bent inwards just enough so the top of the bit that should protrude was level with where the base should be instead. I put a hairdryer with a flat focusing attachment thing right up against the catch. The plastic heated up enough to become malleable, and the force of the air was enough to bend it without my intervention, but I did help it along the way just to make sure, and to heat it for as short a time as necessary.

Once I was happy it was straight, I put it back in, and tested it a few times before screwing back on the helipad. Now I have a helipad that can support its own weight against gravity.

I remember back in 1990 when I got my Fortmax, his legs/thighs were mis assembled. The the left was on the right and......I had to disassemble it and switch them to the right position. So QC issues did exist even back then. Cerebros'/Spike crest was also floppy, luckily I got the store to change him (Spike)

I have a white mark on the left side of Fort Max's forehead. It looks like where the plastic came off the sprue or something. In addition, the forehead has rough plastic or something going on, kind of like it is deformed or something weird. Based from what I've read online, this appears to be a more one off problem as I can't find anyone else with this issue.







Should I try to get a replacement or is this something that I just have to deal with?

Seibertron wrote:Should I try to get a replacement or is this something that I just have to deal with?

Depends. Would they replace the whole set or just Cerebros? I know you're a perfectionist so you'd want it replaced. I would think difficulty of replacement would depend on whether just the damaged part gets replaced or the whole thing has to be sent back. I don't know their policies.

This figure looks great. If I didn't have an original already, I'd get it. I still can't believe they actually reissued him. Now, will Grand Max be on the way? And will the reissues affect the 2ndary market prices of the originals?

Seibertron wrote:I have a white mark on the left side of Fort Max's forehead. It looks like where the plastic came off the sprue or something. In addition, the forehead has rough plastic or something going on, kind of like it is deformed or something weird. Based from what I've read online, this appears to be a more one off problem as I can't find anyone else with this issue.







Should I try to get a replacement or is this something that I just have to deal with?

No big Mr. Izquierdo. The whitening will eventually darken or you could use one of them light gray color Gundam markers and apply a light dab (you can sand it a bit (use the type of file that's used on human nails (I kid you not).......ask the Mrs. seibertron., the ladies know of this)....the file looks like a quad sided rectangle with one of the 4 sides having varying levels of roughness.

I can't remember if mine has that nick in it or not, but if it does, then it's something so minor that I either forgot about it, never noticed it, or both. Or, I might have assumed that they were all (or at least some of them) were like that.

Either way, I don't see reason to split hairs over something as minute as that, so you can ask for a replacement if you want to, but if it were me, I wouldn't worry about it.