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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Arucard » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:51 am

A bit sad. On closer examination, my Cerebros had a very tight knee joint, and I had to remove his knee sticker to get to the screw. I had to shave off some plastic to fix it, but I can see major plastic stress inside his lower leg under the knee from where it bends in going over each lump on the knee. It's even visible on the outside in a couple of places. I can also the the 'catch' that stops Fort Max's visor in head mode from flopping down is showing a lot of plastic stress.

I don't think I can afford to keep transforming him if I want him to last :(
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:26 am

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To those who are reporting these QC issues, where did you guys get you Fort Maxes? Which retailer did you buy them from?
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Cliff Jumper » Tue Apr 09, 2013 2:37 pm

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Sabrblade just to let you know I have not had any QC issues with mine. I've taken a look at my Fort Max (got it a day eariler then my brother :P ) and I have not seen any problems. I've transformed him into each mode three times no problems other than a tight left hip joint. I unscrewed Cerebros' left leg worrying the tightness was causing problems and nothing but a little plastic flash which I just scraped out. Other than that my only real complaint is I'm not playing with him as I type this :) I got mine from BigBadToyStore.com
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Flux Convoy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 7:57 pm

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Cliff Jumper wrote:Sabrblade just to let you know I have not had any QC issues with mine. I've taken a look at my Fort Max (got it a day eariler then my brother :P ) and I have not seen any problems. I've transformed him into each mode three times no problems other than a tight left hip joint. I unscrewed Cerebros' left leg worrying the tightness was causing problems and nothing but a little plastic flash which I just scraped out. Other than that my only real complaint is I'm not playing with him as I type this :) I got mine from BigBadToyStore.com

I'm glad you aren't having any issues with yours. My question to you is, was the box double taped? I'm curious to know if it was one of the ones checked over for QC issues. Mine is coming from BBTS too, it's coming much more slowly though. ;)
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Cliff Jumper » Tue Apr 09, 2013 8:42 pm

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Flux Convoy wrote:
Cliff Jumper wrote:Sabrblade just to let you know I have not had any QC issues with mine. I've taken a look at my Fort Max (got it a day eariler then my brother :P ) and I have not seen any problems. I've transformed him into each mode three times no problems other than a tight left hip joint. I unscrewed Cerebros' left leg worrying the tightness was causing problems and nothing but a little plastic flash which I just scraped out. Other than that my only real complaint is I'm not playing with him as I type this :) I got mine from BigBadToyStore.com

I'm glad you aren't having any issues with yours. My question to you is, was the box double taped? I'm curious to know if it was one of the ones checked over for QC issues. Mine is coming from BBTS too, it's coming much more slowly though. ;)
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Mine was double taped as was my older brother (who I'm talking to now). We both had the same minor problems, tight left leg on Cerebros, tight left hip joint on Fort Max for first couple of transformations, a little plastic flash on Spike, and the left sliding launcher on the white ramp is looser then the right one.
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Flux Convoy » Tue Apr 09, 2013 10:21 pm

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Cliff Jumper wrote:Mine was double taped as was my older brother (who I'm talking to now). We both had the same minor problems, tight left leg on Cerebros, tight left hip joint on Fort Max for first couple of transformations, a little plastic flash on Spike, and the left sliding launcher on the white ramp is looser then the right one.

Good to know. The issues you listed seem to be the easiest to manage fixing. Thanks for the info.
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Johndoe4880 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 4:55 am

the Qc problems that are listed. are from a mix of venders.

also too too the orignal has tight joints.

here is the review of the oringal. this is not me reviewing him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1j3ddWYjrQ
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Johndoe4880 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:22 am

Also too if you would like you can upgrade your cerbrous figure.

to where he looks like either the g1 cartoon (us) or the headmasters (japanesse)cartoon. also too you get a sword.

this will cost you between 40-50 + shipping dollars.

here are the links if your instrested.

http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail

http://tfsource.com/products/view/product_id/3430

here are the pictures and a review.

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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Johndoe4880 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:43 am

he current list of known issues (both minor and major) with the Fortress Maximus reissue includes:


0. Red guns on left hand are improperly installed so that they face backwards (fixable: unscrew the hand assembly, flip the gun and reassemble).

1. Cerebros has very tight leg joints (fixable: loosen the screw and/or shave off some plastic).

2. Cog has 2 left arms.

3. The holes to plug in Gasket's guns are susceptible to stress marks.

4. Fort Max's left fist is missing the plug insert to hold his weapons.

5. Bottom of Spike's feet has mold-flash, making him unstable (fixable: shave off the excess flash).

6. Fort Max has a defective left hip ratchet.

7. Leg cannons are loose and prone to popping out easily or making worrisome "snapping" sounds when raised.

8. Spike is missing his arms.

9. Missing one or more weapons.

10. Smudged or chipped blue paint on the central die-cast panel.

11. Loose knee joints on Spike and/or a very difficult (tight) insertion into Cerebros' body.

12. The Cerebros faceplate on Spike is loose/askew (fixable: use a flathead screwdriver, rather than a Phillips head, to loosen/tighten the hard-to-access restraining screw).

13. Eye tampographs on Fort Max's face appear "bubbly" and/or Cerebros' chest tech spec sticker is askew.

14. Right-side chest door has slightly warped hinge tabs, though it functions correctly.

15. Cerebros in tower mode is a very difficult (tight) insertion into Fort Max's chest, requiring him to be first stood up and then bent down to fit in place.

16. The Fort Max face on Cerebros's back has a dent on its forehead from being jostled around inside the box.

17. Fort Max's big gun is loose when pegged in and pops out easily if jostled.

18. The red launchers attached to Fort Max's white ramps are susceptible to stress marks.

19. Cerebros's fists are tight and do not flip open easily. (fixable: loosen the screw and/or shave off some plastic).

20. Cog is susceptible to stress marks where his gun-arms attach in vehicle mode.
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Johndoe4880 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:11 am

Some one Posted this on facebook.

witch i thought was cool.

This is how one of our customer bring back his Fort Max

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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Sabrblade » Wed Apr 10, 2013 2:48 pm

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Johndoe4880 wrote:the Qc problems that are listed. are from a mix of venders.
Okay, so, any idea which vendors these are? One that we can exclude is BBTS, since they only just recently got their first orders sent out.
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby alldarker » Thu Apr 11, 2013 2:16 am

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I don't think the vendors are to blame, and I don't even think the QC problems are in specific batches of FM. The QC problems are mostly incidental: execpt for one or maybe two of the problems mentioned (tight legs on Cerebros) they do not seem to be universal: almost all of the problems were only mentioned by one poster each.
I've said it before: I'm pretty sure that back in 1987 the original Fortress Max's had the same kinds of incidental QC-problems as mentioned here: except back then there was no option to be so vocal about sharing these problems with the world (no internet).
By the way, TFSource and BBTS are and will be shipping out from the same batch as all the others: it's just that their stock took a while to get to the US and some of their stock (again, all from the same batch) has been taking it's sweet time cruising across the Pacific to the US. The vendors that have been shipping their stock out are the Japan- and Hong Kong-based vendors (HLJ, AE, RK, EtoysJapan, to name a few) with quick access to the factory stock.
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Johndoe4880 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:07 am

i happen to agree.

some of the venders are mostly from japan, tf source, robot kingdom, HLJ. i don't Know about bbts. heard about others too.

bbts is from usa.

i haven't got mine yet.

i tried to get a better deal from robot kingdom. they included a coin and a headphone jack of fort max. witch was $299.99 + shipping. i got a better deal with bbts. becasue of shipping was over 125 dollars making fort max 419 when bbts it was only 350 with shipping and all.

i have to wait late April early may for mine.

some one posted this. this is from hlj

Yeah you really have no idea how big this thing is until you own one or see it in-person. Yikes! I don't get the "cheap" feeling for the plastic like some others have, but then again I've never had a good feel for that.

Wow though. Goddamn.



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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Johndoe4880 » Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:10 am

also too someone said they got there cerbrous figure but it had two right legs.

However, upon a closer inspection i noticed Cerebros came with two right legs

Im gonna contact HLJ right now, but knowing them i might end keeping the figure anyway :-(


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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Arucard » Sat Apr 13, 2013 7:33 pm

I had the floppy helipad issue as well, but fixed it this morning.

There's a white plastic catch inside the diecast pare of the helipad, that's supposed to catch on a protruding piece of grey plastic at the hinge, but it wasn't. I first tried extending the grey plastic with nail varnish, but no joy.

I disassembled the helipad to get at the diecast connector, then unscrewed the white plastic. Be careful when you do this, there's a strong spring in there, so push in the rotating red tab the entire time you're unscrewing and removing.

The catch on the white plastic had been bent inwards just enough so the top of the bit that should protrude was level with where the base should be instead. I put a hairdryer with a flat focusing attachment thing right up against the catch. The plastic heated up enough to become malleable, and the force of the air was enough to bend it without my intervention, but I did help it along the way just to make sure, and to heat it for as short a time as necessary.

Once I was happy it was straight, I put it back in, and tested it a few times before screwing back on the helipad. Now I have a helipad that can support its own weight against gravity.
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby fenrir72 » Sat Apr 13, 2013 9:45 pm

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I remember back in 1990 when I got my Fortmax, his legs/thighs were mis assembled. The the left was on the right and......I had to disassemble it and switch them to the right position. So QC issues did exist even back then. Cerebros'/Spike crest was also floppy, luckily I got the store to change him (Spike)
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Seibertron » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:17 pm

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I have a white mark on the left side of Fort Max's forehead. It looks like where the plastic came off the sprue or something. In addition, the forehead has rough plastic or something going on, kind of like it is deformed or something weird. Based from what I've read online, this appears to be a more one off problem as I can't find anyone else with this issue.

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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Rodimus Prime » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:19 pm

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Seibertron wrote:Should I try to get a replacement or is this something that I just have to deal with?


Depends. Would they replace the whole set or just Cerebros? I know you're a perfectionist :P so you'd want it replaced. I would think difficulty of replacement would depend on whether just the damaged part gets replaced or the whole thing has to be sent back. I don't know their policies.

This figure looks great. If I didn't have an original already, I'd get it. I still can't believe they actually reissued him. Now, will Grand Max be on the way? And will the reissues affect the 2ndary market prices of the originals?
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:46 am

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Seibertron wrote:I have a white mark on the left side of Fort Max's forehead. It looks like where the plastic came off the sprue or something. In addition, the forehead has rough plastic or something going on, kind of like it is deformed or something weird. Based from what I've read online, this appears to be a more one off problem as I can't find anyone else with this issue.

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Should I try to get a replacement or is this something that I just have to deal with?


No big Mr. Izquierdo. The whitening will eventually darken or you could use one of them light gray color Gundam markers and apply a light dab (you can sand it a bit (use the type of file that's used on human nails (I kid you not).......ask the Mrs. seibertron., the ladies know of this)....the file looks like a quad sided rectangle with one of the 4 sides having varying levels of roughness.
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Re: In Hand Images Of Encore Fortress Maximus

Postby Sabrblade » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:31 am

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I can't remember if mine has that nick in it or not, but if it does, then it's something so minor that I either forgot about it, never noticed it, or both. Or, I might have assumed that they were all (or at least some of them) were like that.

Either way, I don't see reason to split hairs over something as minute as that, so you can ask for a replacement if you want to, but if it were me, I wouldn't worry about it. :)
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