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Rated X wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

I think fatigue has finally set in to those poor Chinese factory workers that work 16 hours a day painting these things.

so you're saying these guys are hand painted?

Im pretty sure all paint apps are hand painted. I dont think they have an assembly belt with robot arms that can be programmed to paint different apps on different figures.

I'm not sure either but you're just assuming. I don't see why they won't have an assembly belt painting figures that are being mass produced. doesn't matter how little you pay factory workers but if paint apps are being painted by hand... it's not cost effective and it'll take forever....

Also look at your figures... you think the paint apps are hand painted?

I would like to have these guys, but I am not spending $60 on them. Hopefully Hasbro releases them. If not, I can do without them.

Rated X wrote:It's Rumble dammit get it right !!!

They did. Dude, this is Takara, remember? In Japan. Frenzy was always the purple/blue one in the Japanese version, so they're just following how it's always been.

The English-language version of the G1 cartoon is not the end-all, be-all, definitive version of Generation 1. No such thing exists.

If Hasbro releases this over here, they're probably label this figure "Rumble" since they seem to be in a "FIRRIB" mindset these days. But it was always "RIRFIB" from the very beginning before the cartoon came along and swapped their names/colors for some unspecified reason.

More pictures here:

http://bbs.actoys.net/read.php?tid-1240103.html

mooncake623 wrote:

Rated X wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

I think fatigue has finally set in to those poor Chinese factory workers that work 16 hours a day painting these things.

so you're saying these guys are hand painted?

Im pretty sure all paint apps are hand painted. I dont think they have an assembly belt with robot arms that can be programmed to paint different apps on different figures.

I'm not sure either but you're just assuming. I don't see why they won't have an assembly belt painting figures that are being mass produced. doesn't matter how little you pay factory workers but if paint apps are being painted by hand... it's not cost effective and it'll take forever....

Also look at your figures... you think the paint apps are hand painted?

Honestly I believe all apps are hand painted. Doing things by hand has always been something asian people are very talented at. They are masters at detail. And Chinese labor is dirt cheap. Thats why the Has/Tak factories are in China instead of Japan. But looking at the latest pics above this post, the paint apps are all screwed up on these. Just look at the silver on the left side of Rumble/Frenzy's chest ans the crotch as well...

Silly Takara, you got Frenzy's colours wrong. Also, Frenzy never used the Piledrivers (although seeing as this is actually Rumble, that doesn't really matter!)

Rated X wrote:It's Rumble dammit get it right !!!

According to Marvel Comics, which was the publication that both created and started this franchise for Hasbro, Rumble is the red one. Hasbro has even made the original Generation 1 Rumble be the red one. And it was only Sunbow who disregarded this fact - As Frenzy did a lot of rumbling, and they felt that it would confuse the children who watched it.

However, even though Takara chose to go by the names used in both the comic and toyline, it does reflect why they chose to change Optimus Prime's name to "Convoy."

Rated X wrote:If they wanted to go the "toy accurate" route, then Buzzsaw should have come with Soundwave and Lazerbeak should have come with this guy.

Actually, the Japanese version of Buzzsaw was never packaged with Soundwave. It was packaged in the VSZ set, which included Sunstreaker and Skids. Rumble was the one that came packaged with Soundwave (when it comes to the Japanese packaging).

Honestly I believe all apps are hand painted. Doing things by hand has always been something asian people are very talented at. They are masters at detail. And Chinese labor is dirt cheap. Thats why the Has/Tak factories are in China instead of Japan. But looking at the latest pics above this post, the paint apps are all screwed up on these. Just look at the silver on the left side of Rumble/Frenzy's chest ans the crotch as well...

Thanks completely untrue. And way to generalize Asian people. Also Has/Tak's factories are in Vietnam... its not the same...

Rated X wrote:Honestly I believe all apps are hand painted. Doing things by hand has always been something asian people are very talented at. They are masters at detail. And Chinese labor is dirt cheap. Thats why the Has/Tak factories are in China instead of Japan. But looking at the latest pics above this post, the paint apps are all screwed up on these. Just look at the silver on the left side of Rumble/Frenzy's chest ans the crotch as well...

1) All applications are not hand painted. The majority of applications, like faction symbols or decals are applied via tampographs - applied through heat and pressure. If they were paint you would be able to chip it off. Of course there are some times where paint is applied, like in holes or in spots where chipping would likely not occur.

2) Doing things by hand is something that people are good at. Stop being ethnocentric.

3) It's not because Chinese labor is cheap, it's because countries like Japan and South Korea have unions, ethics committee - none of that exists in rural China. Corporations like Hasbro don't want to deal with all of that red tape, so they move to countries (Vietnam and China) where ethics is nonexistent.

4) Whether or not it's by hand or by machine, machines make mistakes too.