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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby starwarrior1227 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:10 pm

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that back pack just killed it for me.
there should be NO way that the dino mode has a hallow belly, yet robot mode has a HUGE chest and a large backpack

The dino mode does have hollow stomach so the dino head can collapse into it. And besides, since when has Grimlock NOT had a backpack made of dino?


i dont remember grimlock ever having a backpack THAT big
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:12 pm

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Noideaforaname wrote:More (and clearer) pics here:
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WHAAAAAT!!! He's SHORTER than the Soundwave/Soundblaster/Blaster mold?!!!

Rated X wrote:I see youre point. But you must admit the Generations line wasnt designed to be hijacked by FOC. It is meant to be a homage line of different "Generations" and lately I havent seen anything but FOC under that line. (Im not counting GDO repaints, I mean new molds)
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Rated X wrote:I dont even consider a video game a continuity. Without a cartoon or comic storyline, it is nothing more than digital artwork and figures inspired by the likes of such. At least thats my opinion.
It's not that it's a "continuity", but a "franchise". FOC has not just a game, but a comic and toys as well. Some franchises don't even have anything BUT toys.

As far as the game being a continuity goes, it has a far better narrative flow than most TF video games, telling a crucial point in the bigger Transformers story not told anywhere else. If one want to know what happens in that particular chapter of the story, one has to go to the game to experience it.

Rated X wrote:On to the figure itself. In my opinion they basicly took Animated Grimlock and changed his smooth round surfaces and replaced them with more flat surfaces with angles and details.
Yet, the transformation schemes are entirely different. The robot torso front forms the back (not the stomach) of the T-Rex. There are no back kibble "wings" like the animated figure had. The robot shoulders shift inward and outward when transforming to the T-Rex thighs and back, whereas the Animated figure's robot shoulders/T-Rex thighs stay put. the legs transform from the tail differently. And the proportions differ with Animated Grimlock being more akin to the G1 Grimlock T-Rex while this one being more like a realistic T-Rex.

Rated X wrote:I want a Big dumb T-Rex that drags his tail.
Well, they made an intent to make sure that this Grimlock wasn't dumb.

Rated X wrote:I dont want a streamlined scientificly correct T-Rex that looks more like a Raptor from Jurassic park.
Even though the Jurassic Park Raptors were just as scientifically incorrect as G1 Grimlock's T-Rex. ;)
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:17 pm

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starwarrior1227 wrote:that back pack just killed it for me.
there should be NO way that the dino mode has a hallow belly, yet robot mode has a HUGE chest and a large backpack
You're only viewing the toy. How can you tell how large the back kibble is?

RAcast wrote:The dino mode does have hollow stomach so the dino head can collapse into it. And besides, since when has Grimlock NOT had a backpack made of dino?
Pretender Grimlock, Action Master Grimlock, Beast Wars Grimlock, Alternators Grimlock... Hey, you asked. :lol:

starwarrior1227 wrote:i dont remember grimlock ever having a backpack THAT big
G1 and Masterpiece Grimlock had giant WINGS on their backs. That's bigger than what we got here.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Noideaforaname » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:18 pm

RAcast wrote:And besides, since when has Grimlock NOT had a backpack made of dino?

Well, technically, FoC Grim isn't *supposed* to have a dino-backpack; in fact, his character model has little to nothing T. rex-esque on him, and as a result his video game transform sequence is cheaty as hell (hence why it's always so cinematic in campaign mode).

I do wish it collapsed in a bit more, but it is incredibly clever how the light for the "flamethrower" is also used to light up the body like when Grimlock was enraged in the game.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby RAcast » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:28 pm

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RAcast wrote:The dino mode does have hollow stomach so the dino head can collapse into it. And besides, since when has Grimlock NOT had a backpack made of dino?
Pretender Grimlock, Action Master Grimlock, Beast Wars Grimlock, Alternators Grimlock... Hey, you asked. :lol:

I suppose I walked right into that one, didn't I? xD

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RAcast wrote:And besides, since when has Grimlock NOT had a backpack made of dino?

Well, technically, FoC Grim isn't *supposed* to have a dino-backpack; in fact, his character model has little to nothing T. rex-esque on him, and as a result his video game transform sequence is cheaty as hell (hence why it's always so cinematic in campaign mode).

I do wish it collapsed in a bit more, but it is incredibly clever how the light for the "flamethrower" is also used to light up the body like when Grimlock was enraged in the game.

Agreed. But the gimmick just works so nicely, I'm willing to make the sacrifice of a little backpack-age. I really do wish there was an extra hinge on the backpack to make his kibble wings though. I know it's not part of the FoC design, but it's always been one of my favorite nuances of G1 Grimlock's design. :P
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby starwarrior1227 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:40 pm

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starwarrior1227 wrote:that back pack just killed it for me.
there should be NO way that the dino mode has a hallow belly, yet robot mode has a HUGE chest and a large backpack
You're only viewing the toy. How can you tell how large the back kibble is?

RAcast wrote:The dino mode does have hollow stomach so the dino head can collapse into it. And besides, since when has Grimlock NOT had a backpack made of dino?
Pretender Grimlock, Action Master Grimlock, Beast Wars Grimlock, Alternators Grimlock... Hey, you asked. :lol:

starwarrior1227 wrote:i dont remember grimlock ever having a backpack THAT big
G1 and Masterpiece Grimlock had giant WINGS on their backs. That's bigger than what we got here.


1. i can tell from latest pic.
2. ya but masterpiece made the wings look AWESOME(and i remember him having wings in the G1 cartoon if i remember correctly)! and you cant blame G1 for the limted tech of the time.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby That Bot » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:28 pm

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People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby RAcast » Fri Dec 14, 2012 6:11 pm

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That Bot wrote:People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.

I made that point earlier, nobody listens. >:oP
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

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That Bot wrote:People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:11 pm

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 8:54 pm

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I think the big issue here is that the people here who want this to be like an updated G1 Grimlock and still don't like it simply have standards that are way too specific.

Hasbro already gave us an updated Classics-style Grimlock in the form of the Classics Grimlock from 2006. But people complained that it wasn't faithful enough to the G1 Grimlock and felt too different.

Then we got the Masterpiece Grimlock that was VERY faithful to the G1 Grimlock while still being updated from the G1 version. But, they still complained for the opposite reason: It isn't that much of an update since it's just the straight up G1 version with modern engineering.

Fast forward to today and we have this Grimlock. A very updated Grimlock with a faithful appearance to the G1 version while also being different enough to call an update (even though it represents a different character, but these people are looking for G1 updates rather than new characters). Surely such a combination would satisfy those who are getting all that they ever wanted, right?

Right?

"It's ugly."

:HEADHURTS:

Hasbro finally gives what was asked of them, and the resultant response given is, "It's ugly."

>:oP

This just goes to show that there is simply no pleasing people. They asked for a Classic-style update that resembles the G1 Grimlock faithfully enough while still being different enough to be called an update, and they turn it down for the pickiest of reasons.

:BANG_HEAD:

You know something? If this isn't enough, then I don't know what is. Masterpiece Grimlock is the most definitive version of G1 Grimlock we've ever gotten, but people want an update. What baffles the mind is why anyone would want such an update when said update is not how the character looked in the fiction. Masterpiece Grimlock is the most show-accurate representation of the character we've ever gotten. If it's an update that's wanted, go for Classics Grimlock. If Classics Grimlock is too different from how Grimlock is supposed to look, then why on Earth would one want to get an updated version in the first place? Just go for the one that actually LOOKS like Grimlock. And here we have a Grimlock that is, for all intents and purposes, a compromise between the updated look of the Classics-style figures and the show-accuracy of the Masterpiece figures, and just so happens to also resemble the video game design of Aligned Grimlock. Despite being a separate character, the toy is still ripe for the repurposing into a Classics-style G1 Grimlock. Yet, even when ALL the demands of these people have been met by this toy, they can't help but still look for faults in this figure to nitpick about.

Ya'll know what? If Hasbro still didn't meet these satisfactions with this toy, then they probably never will. They already made a Classic-style updated Grimlock (Classics), a G1-accurate Grimlock (Masterpiece), and halfway point between the two (this one). They likely aren't going to try again after hitting the nail so many times just because a certain group of fans have the most meticulous of standards that no real world toy company like Hasbro, TakaraTomy, or anyone would ever cater to, as that's just expecting way too much.

And this is especially since Hasbro isn't even interested in doing more Classics-style figures right now since they're putting all their effort into getting the FOC figures out and available to the public. The Classics-style G1 character figures have had their turn and now it's time for others to have theirs. While Classics-style figures will likely come back at a later point, right now is not the time. And if and when they do make their return, there likely won't be another Grimlock since that requirement was already met three times over with Classics Grimlock, MP Grimlock, and Generations FOC Grimlock. If none of these three Grimlock toys are satisfactory enough for a Classics-style collection, then I don't know what else to say other than something like, "Oh well."

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby RAcast » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:13 pm

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I hear ya Sabrblade, this thread is...somewhat maddening because there are people bitching for the sake of bitching.

A rather ASTOUNDING number of people no less. I mean, I'm used to the one or two people complaining about little things and I'm like "oh well they're just the type who can't be happy," but now that we're talking about a BIG, popular character, GRIMLOCK no less, those people are just coming out of the woodworks! :lol: I'm done trying to help people see the light, haha. I'm just walking away from this thread.

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

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Maybe they should have stuck with the classic G1 transformation sequence. Was there really a need to "neo-ize" the transformation ? He's a T-Rex, not a new car. And I totally forgot about the wings. Damn he looks naked now to me without them. Eventually sombody will do the Dinobots right.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

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That Bot wrote:People complain about the legs being small and the tail being big. They're the same part. If they made the legs bigger, the tail would be goddamn gigantic. If they made the tail smaller, the legs would be skeletal. You can't have it both ways on this one.

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Maybe they should have stuck with the classic G1 transformation sequence. Was there really a need to "neo-ize" the transformation ?


Yes, because this isn't G1. Get your darn noodle out of that place for one second. There's a reason Generations has the new Fall of Cybertron sub-title, because it caters toward the video game. It's not supposed to be your updated G1 collection.

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Rated X » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:25 pm

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Sabrblade wrote:I think the big issue here is that the people here who want this to be like an updated G1 Grimlock and still don't like it simply have standards that are way too specific.

Hasbro already gave us an updated Classics-style Grimlock in the form of the Classics Grimlock from 2006. But people complained that it wasn't faithful enough to the G1 Grimlock and felt too different.

Then we got the Masterpiece Grimlock that was VERY faithful to the G1 Grimlock while still being updated from the G1 version. But, they still complained for the opposite reason: It isn't that much of an update since it's just the straight up G1 version with modern engineering.

Fast forward to today and we have this Grimlock. A very updated Grimlock with a faithful appearance to the G1 version while also being different enough to call an update (even though it represents a different character, but these people are looking for G1 updates rather than new characters). Surely such a combination would satisfy those who are getting all that they ever wanted, right?

Right?

"It's ugly."

:HEADHURTS:

Hasbro finally gives what was asked of them, and the resultant response given is, "It's ugly."

>:oP

This just goes to show that there is simply no pleasing people. They asked for a Classic-style update that resembles the G1 Grimlock faithfully enough while still being different enough to be called an update, and they turn it down for the pickiest of reasons.

:BANG_HEAD:

You know something? If this isn't enough, then I don't know what is. Masterpiece Grimlock is the most definitive version of G1 Grimlock we've ever gotten, but people want an update. What baffles the mind is why anyone would want such an update when said update is not how the character looked in the fiction. Mastepiece Grimlock is the most show-accurate representation of the character we've ever gotten. If it's an update that's wanted, go for Classics Grimlock. If Classics Grimlock is too different from how Grimlock is supposed to look, then why on Earth would one want to get an updated version in the first place? Just go for the one that actually LOOKS like Grimlock. And here we have a Grimlock that is, for all intents and purposes, a compromise between the updated look of the Classics-style figures and show-accuracy of the Masterpiece figures, and just so happens to also resemble the video game design of Aligned Grimlock. Despite being a separate character, the toy is still ripe for the repurposing into a Classics-style G1 Grimlock. Yet, even when all the demands by these people have been met by this toy, they can't help but still look for faults in this figure to nitpick about. Ya'll know what? If Hasbro still didn't meet these satisfactions with this toy, then they probably never will. They already made a Classic-style updated Grimlock (Classics), a G1-accurate Grimlock (Masterpiece), and halfway point between both (this one). They likely aren't going to try again after hitting the nail so many times just because a certain group of fans have the most meticulous of standards that no real world toy company like Hasbro would ever cater to, as that's just expecting way too much, especially since Hasbro isn't even interested in doing more Classics-style figures right now when they're putting all their attention on getting the FOC figures out and available to the public. The Classics-style G1 character figures have had their turn and now it's time for others to have theirs. The Classics-style figures will likely come back at a later point, but right now is not their time. and if and when they do make their return, there likely won't be another Grimlock since that requirement was alreayd met three times over (Classics, MP, Generations FOC). If none of these three Grimlock toys are satisfactory enough for a Classics-style collection, then I don't know what else to say other than something like, "Oh well."

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MP Grimlock was an update in my opinion. The ony problem with it was that it wasnt voyager sized. MP figures are for coffee tables in a man-cave, not large scale season 1 collections. For me an update means increased posability, or as you put it "modern engineering. Im not among the neo fanatics who want every alt mode to be the latest piece of technology in the vechicle world. Nor do I care for complex transformations that are like puzzles and easily broken. If I-gear were to KO MP Grimlock and shrink it to voyager size, nobody would give a crap about this FOC figure.
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Postby Noideaforaname » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:30 pm

Yeesh, what's with all the negativity towards complaints? Most everyone who's not satisfied have given thought-out reasons as to why they aren't totally satisfied. Plus, it's completely unfair to lump them all together as "whiny haters who are never satisfied with anything."
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Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:31 pm

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Rated X wrote:MP Grimlock was an update in my opinion. The ony problem with it was that it wasnt voyager sized. MP figures are for coffee tables in a man-cave, not large scale season 1 collections. For me an update means increased posability, or as you put it "modern engineering. Im not among the neo fanatics who want every alt mode to be the latest piece of technology in the vechicle world. Nor do I care for complex transformations that are like puzzles and easily broken. If I-gear were to KO MP Grimlock and shrink it to voyager size, nobody would give a crap about this FOC figure.
Grimlock is supposed to be BIGGER than Optimus. Classics Optimus was a Voyager. MP Grimlock is akin to an Ultra, the one size above Voyager below Leader. That makes him work.

If he's too big, go for this Grimlock, since he's close enough to the G1 Grimlock to work. If he's still too different, then tough luck. These are your options.
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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Arctorro » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:32 pm

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Nice little rant there Sabrblade :D

I completely agree; got G1, Energon, Animated, Classics and MP. They are all nice toys, partly because they are different. MP is a nice update for G1 and Classic Grim fits well but was just a bit too small. FoC Grimlock will fit with Classics nicely. So what if he doesn't have "wings" or the tail is a little fat? Technically he is a Cybertronian T-Rex, not an Earthen T-Rex, so small differences in anatomy shouldn't matter.

Classics was never a MP style update of G1, it was more of a reboot. Yes people might say that is because Hasbro didn't want to pay licensing fees, but it doesn't change the fact that all the Hasbro Classics/Generations/Universe toys don't look exactly like the G1 counterpart (if there are one or two that do, let me know). They are new, with new transformations, styles and looks. This same argument pops up a lot with 3P releases as well. Why? Why buy so many C/G/U toys for your Classics set that aren't show/toy accurate then **** when certain toys are released that follow that same pattern?
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Postby Rated X » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:33 pm

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If nobody can get it right for you, do it your damn self. Let's see how well you fair at it. >:oP



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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Sabrblade » Fri Dec 14, 2012 9:34 pm

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Noideaforaname wrote:Yeesh, what's with all the negativity towards complaints? Most everyone who's not satisfied have given thought-out reasons as to why they aren't totally satisfied. Plus, it's completely unfair to lump them all together as "whiny haters who are never satisfied with anything."
Show me one complaint that doesn't fall into the category of, "It doesn't fit my views of how Grimlock should be."
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Postby MasterSoundBlaster » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:10 pm

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Yeah I'm with you all now. I'm Tired of trying to come up with reasons to help explain things to others on this issue. I'm giving ol' Grimlock the green light for my collection and for those of you not getting him, thanks for keeping a well deserved Voyager on the shelves of the toystore for me.

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Re: In-Package Images: Generations Blaster & Grimlock, MP-14 Red Alert, Capbots, Arms Micron AM-27,28,29

Postby Breakdown 2099 » Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:26 pm

I'm not sold on Blaster. That Ravage/Steeljaw mold looks like it has a bad case of anorexia and scoliosis and is my least favorite. I might purchase him to square off against his Decepticon counterpart. Soundwave's feeling all alone...
Grimlock's robot mode is pleasing to me, his alt mode however, isn't. I'm not going to say anything about what I would do to improve, because I wouldn't be able to. He'll be displayed in robot mode, so the alt mode isn't much of an issue. I like the character, it's just a shame that the other four don't get as much HasTak lovin'. A whole set would've been fantastic, oh well, c'est la vie

Red Alert is a must even if it's just for his mental-collapse spark accessories! The more I see of this crazy little bot, the more I want him. Stay and guard the bunker, Inferno!
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Postby Sabrblade » Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:12 am

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Breakdown 2099 wrote:That Ravage/Steeljaw mold looks like it has a bad case of anorexia and scoliosis and is my least favorite.
Steeljaw's mistransformed in these pics.

Breakdown 2099 wrote:Grimlock's robot mode is pleasing to me, his alt mode however, isn't. I'm not going to say anything about what I would do to improve, because I wouldn't be able to. He'll be displayed in robot mode, so the alt mode isn't much of an issue. I like the character, it's just a shame that the other four don't get as much HasTak lovin'. A whole set would've been fantastic, oh well, c'est la vie
Hasbro hasn't said "No" to making the other four. There's still a chance for them to come later.

Individually, that is. A full set of all five would cost well over $100 bucks. ;)

Breakdown 2099 wrote:Red Alert is a must even if it's just for his mental-collapse spark accessories! The more I see of this crazy little bot, the more I want him. Stay and guard the bunker, Inferno!
Now I want to see MP Alert next to Henkei! Henkei! Inferno. :-B
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