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Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby LordScourge » Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:25 am

I've been thinking he's a joke compared to his previous incarnations this version is very weak. I mean he really isn't cut out for being a second in command for Decepticons. I mean I can see him being redeemed and helping Optimus but that's about it. The really killed my hope for him was when he found those Protoforms. I mean it's probably how he gets to fly again but clones? Wouldn't it have been better to create his own decepticons rather than clone himself?
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby MightyMagnus78 » Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:37 am

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I'm the exact opposite, I love his Prime incarnation. He's a spineless, arrogant, power hungry, backstabbing, triple-crossing, narcissistic coward. Just as Primus intended and a perfect characterisation IMO.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby crazyjeffy » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:23 am

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I'm with Magnus on this one. I love him. Especially all of his dastardly animations and blum's voice acting. He's definitely one of the more... in depth characters.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Scourgescream » Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:56 pm

I agree with the above. Starscream is one of the very best characters on this show. He enhances every scene he is in and Steve Blums voice acting is excellent
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby JetOptimus23 » Tue May 01, 2012 5:13 pm

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Prime Starscream is exactly who I wanted him to be and more. He's taken over Armada as my favorite Starscream of all time.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby YRQRM0 » Tue May 01, 2012 8:59 pm

JetOptimus23 wrote:Prime Starscream is exactly who I wanted him to be and more. He's taken over Armada as my favorite Starscream of all time.


:shock: WOAH calm down there! lol, but seriously. He hasn't really done anything to make me really love him, but he's in the right direction. I suspect at some point he'll have some great betrayal of some sorts.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby JetOptimus23 » Wed May 02, 2012 3:34 pm

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YRQRM0 wrote:
JetOptimus23 wrote:Prime Starscream is exactly who I wanted him to be and more. He's taken over Armada as my favorite Starscream of all time.


:shock: WOAH calm down there! lol, but seriously. He hasn't really done anything to make me really love him, but he's in the right direction. I suspect at some point he'll have some great betrayal of some sorts.


I think he's the most devious, traitorous, back-stabbing Starscream ever...and to be fair, his Stint as Decepticon leader lasted longer than any other Starscream's.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Duke of Luns » Wed May 02, 2012 10:46 pm

Going to echo everyone's sentiments, it's my favorite incarnation of Screamer too. I think it's because we've actually seen some of his journey to become a backstabbing third party character. After all, he started out generally loyal to the Decepticon cause.

Oh, and Steve Blum does an awsome job as him. Since Hasbro owns the license for both Marvel and Transformers, maybe a Green Goblin inspired repaint? For those who don't know, Steve Blum's performance as Starscream is similar to the one he gave the Green Goblin during "The Spectacular Spider-Man" animated series.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby JetOptimus23 » Thu May 03, 2012 7:37 am

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Duke of Luns wrote:Going to echo everyone's sentiments, it's my favorite incarnation of Screamer too. I think it's because we've actually seen some of his journey to become a backstabbing third party character. After all, he started out generally loyal to the Decepticon cause.


I think that's what makes him most interesting to me. We get to see his journey from Air Commander to a lone warrior just struggling to survive.

Duke of Luns wrote:Oh, and Steve Blum does an awsome job as him. Since Hasbro owns the license for both Marvel and Transformers, maybe a Green Goblin inspired repaint? For those who don't know, Steve Blum's performance as Starscream is similar to the one he gave the Green Goblin during "The Spectacular Spider-Man" animated series.


That would be...spectacular. 8)
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Sabrblade » Thu May 03, 2012 9:50 pm

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I'm surprised no one's brought up how he's also the most sympathetic and relatable Starscream ever as well.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby LadyBug » Fri May 04, 2012 9:56 am

Steve Blum makes Starscream, Starscream. Simple as that. I hated the character of Starscream before Prime's Screamer came about, but I also blame Steve Blum's amazing performance as him.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby dinojack86 » Fri May 04, 2012 10:01 pm

I'm not saying this because everyone else seems to agree- I really do believe this is the best Starscream characterization we've gotten thus far. He is by and large my favorite Decepticon on the show and easily my favorite version and yes- a lot goes into the voice acting. He just looks and sounds so devious- it's perfect for his character.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Duke of Luns » Fri May 04, 2012 10:09 pm

Sabrblade wrote:I'm surprised no one's brought up how he's also the most sympathetic and relatable Starscream ever as well.


Sympathetic and relatable? I don't know about that one, but it is a matter of opinion. I mean he's a villian through and through. He's a superstisious cowardly backstabber that more than got his come upance when his T-Cog was stolen. He has shown a few bits of sympathism I suppose(been awhile since I've seen the episodes, so perahps in the first five parter because Megs dumped on him a bit and Airrachnid left him to die/be captured), but other than that, pure villian. A well characterized villian, but a villian nontheless.

However, I do feel Armada Starscream fits the criteria. He was loyal to the end, saw the bigger picture when it came to the Autobots and Decepticons joining forces, and gains a sympathy vote for being a pawn for Megatron/Sideways. Of course, everything I've described pretty much makes Armada Screamer into a sort of Bizzarro Screamer :P .

Oh yeah, and a note about the clones: While they could bring it up again, I was disapointed they didn't follow the obvious Animated route and make them Thundercracker/Skywarp/etc. But him feeling their pain was a nice twist.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby budmaloney » Fri May 04, 2012 10:09 pm

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Prime's Screamer is the Apex of all previous generations. He is scary, funny, and menacing. Even his alt mode is more fitting, than an F15 or F22. F16 is fast and maneuverable, much more fitting for the persona.I was however, disappointed with the clone episode. I wanted to see others seekers. I hope that he got his T-cog back. But definitely not disappointed in the character. As many have said, almost perfect voice acting.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Duke of Luns » Fri May 04, 2012 10:10 pm

D'oh! Used the back button and refreshed, double post. Sorry!
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Sabrblade » Fri May 04, 2012 10:33 pm

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Duke of Luns wrote:Oh yeah, and a note about the clones: While they could bring it up again, I was disapointed they didn't follow the obvious Animated route and make them Thundercracker/Skywarp/etc. But him feeling their pain was a nice twist.
budmaloney wrote:I was however, disappointed with the clone episode. I wanted to see others seekers.
If they had repeated the seeker clone bit that they did in Animated, that would have been repetitive, uncreative, lazy, and a complete knock off of something that made Animated unique.

Besides, Skywarp and Thundercracker already exist as separate characters in this continuity.

And, the creators said that they want to focus on Starscream as a unique individual without having to bring in others like him. If they were to bring in Skywarp and Thundercracker, they'd probably look different from Starscream.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Seibertron » Wed May 09, 2012 8:42 pm

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MightyMagnus78 wrote:I'm the exact opposite, I love his Prime incarnation. He's a spineless, arrogant, power hungry, backstabbing, triple-crossing, narcissistic coward. Just as Primus intended and a perfect characterisation IMO.


I agree with MightyMagnus78. Transformers Prime Starscream just might be my favorite characterization. I would still prefer if he looked more like the traditional Starscream, but the character is awesome. Unique voice, backstabbing, a schemer ... just all around awesome.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby DarkEnergon » Wed May 09, 2012 10:04 pm

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While I concede that Starscream is my favorite character on the show (or is it Knock Out?), I still hate how he tended to come off like a clown so often.

Initially, in Darkness Rising, all the elements of his insecurities were there, but you could see also what made him successful - ruthlessness, speed/evasiveness, and cunning. I love the scene when Arcee and Bumblebee have him cornered with Fowler, and he takes advantage of a tiny distraction, dodges their shots and gracefully transforms and jets out of there.

That opening degraded into a lot of whining and smackdowns. Bulkhead smacking him down and him whining in Deus ex Machina. Him DarkEnergoning up and getting his arm blown off (though it was funny!). Arachnid punking him so easily. On and on.

Season 2 is a little better, he puts up a fight and has some small victories, but in my opinion his characterization has suffered at the hands of some cheap plots in the middle of season 1. BUT - his design, his voicing, and unpredictability still make every show with him in it the better for it.

Animated Starscream is still my favorite, though. Animated made him simultaneously fearsome and silly.
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby Varia31 » Sat May 12, 2012 4:31 pm

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YRQRM0 wrote:
JetOptimus23 wrote:Prime Starscream is exactly who I wanted him to be and more. He's taken over Armada as my favorite Starscream of all time.


:shock: WOAH calm down there! lol, but seriously. He hasn't really done anything to make me really love him, but he's in the right direction. I suspect at some point he'll have some great betrayal of some sorts.


I think he's the most devious, traitorous, back-stabbing Starscream ever...and to be fair, his Stint as Decepticon leader lasted longer than any other Starscream's.

Actually, second longest. Movie Starscream was left in command for at least a couple centeries (correct me of I'm wrong) while they were searching galaxies for the All Spark and Megatron was missing, plus the couple years that Megatron was dead. ;)

On Prime Starscream, I like him, but the only thing that drives me nuts is how pathetic he's made to look like when he actually DOES fight. :P Perhaps is best fight was when he was kicking around Arcee. *shrug* I was thrilled when he blasted Airachnid though, I was wanting him to get her back SO BADLY. lol
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby RAcast » Sun May 13, 2012 12:32 am

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Sabrblade wrote:And, the creators said that they want to focus on Starscream as a unique individual without having to bring in others like him. If they were to bring in Skywarp and Thundercracker, they'd probably look different from Starscream.


Indeed. I'd expect them to use the Dreadwing body type, as it has been explicity referred to as the "seeker" body type in Prime.

And yes, Prime Starscream is easily my favorite SS ever. I love Armada SS, everything about that character is just so right, but I have to say the same about Prime SS. Not only is the character great on his own, the sheer amount of expression they get out of the model is astounding. It never hits you how important eyebrows are to expressions until you put them on a giant robot!
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Re: Is anyone else disapointed in Starscream (Prime)?

Postby abasi » Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:06 pm

I also like the Prime SS. The voice acting is perfect and he makes me laugh he is surprised. G1 SS is second to Prime SS imo
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