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Sometimes a good refereence is worth it. I like being able to understand the referneces and nods the writers throw into the series because I like Easter Egg hunting. I don't know, I think I just like to know more about something than my brother does.

But the whole "One Shall" speech is definatly getting old. Maybe ONCE in a season, or even the series, but not everytime Megatron and Optimus go toe-to-toe with one and another.

Hell, yeah! Doesn't help for me that it has not aged well at all. Overall I find the 2007 movie to be superior to it. I find episodes of G1 itself to be superior to it!

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Hell, yeah! Doesn't help for me that it has not aged well at all. Overall I find the 2007 movie to be superior to it. I find episodes of G1 itself to be superior to it!

Okay, you're out.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Overall I find the 2007 movie to be superior to it. I find episodes of G1 itself to be superior to it!

How dare you.

RhA wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Hell, yeah! Doesn't help for me that it has not aged well at all. Overall I find the 2007 movie to be superior to it. I find episodes of G1 itself to be superior to it!

Okay, you're out.

Nope. I'm in. The movie is out.

PrymeStriker wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Overall I find the 2007 movie to be superior to it. I find episodes of G1 itself to be superior to it!

How dare you.

I saw the damned thing in theaters opening week. So, yeah. It's actually pretty bad.

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:

RhA wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Hell, yeah! Doesn't help for me that it has not aged well at all. Overall I find the 2007 movie to be superior to it. I find episodes of G1 itself to be superior to it!

Okay, you're out.

Nope. I'm in. The movie is out.

PrymeStriker wrote:

RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Overall I find the 2007 movie to be superior to it. I find episodes of G1 itself to be superior to it!

How dare you.

I saw the damned thing in theaters opening week. So, yeah. It's actually pretty bad.

This should be a bannable offense.

The Meg's an OP quotes are over used almost to a " why did the chicken cross the road? " point. I'd love to here some if the great one lines from other points in the series like : "it's a boobie trap that actually catches boobies." Or " as the earthlings say ' fat chance, fat head'" both Optimus quotes. I used to love how the transformers would continuously screw up Engligh phrases too.

The '86 Movie gets more attention than the episodes and gets referenced more simply because it was everything the original series wasn't. For its time and for the audience attending, it was dark, it was violent, it was unforgiving. You saw Autobots go down and STAY DOWN! You had Spike dropping the "S" bomb and you got to see Starscream utterly destroyed. It earned the right to have more attention than the episodes because it eclipsed everything that came before it and paved the road for everything to come after. What irks me more than overused homages is the fact that those who have come after use them to the point that all respect has been lost.
Like with Unicron. Voiced by an absolute legend among actors (even if he could have cared less about the VA role he was doing at the time) I personally feel that Unicron should have been a character with exactly 1 life span (the '86 movie) and should NEVER EVER see life again. It's a simple respect thing. Respect the actor, respect the character, let them rest eternal. Same goes for Chris Latta and Starsceam. BUT...that's not something that I would expect todays generation to understand and as a result we will likely get a sh**fest of a TF4 movie with Unicron popping into the picture.
It all boils down to respect. Yes, some of the new writers are trying to show some respect for what came before but done improperly it's just making a farce of it all. Don't blame the first motion picture for being a tired, worn out property (because it isn't) blame the people whop came afterwards that didn't show proper respect for history.

T-Macksimus wrote:The '86 Movie gets more attention than the episodes and gets referenced more simply because it was everything the original series wasn't. For its time and for the audience attending, it was dark, it was violent, it was unforgiving. You saw Autobots go down and STAY DOWN! You had Spike dropping the "S" bomb and you got to see Starscream utterly destroyed. It earned the right to have more attention than the episodes because it eclipsed everything that came before it and paved the road for everything to come after. What irks me more than overused homages is the fact that those who have come after use them to the point that all respect has been lost.
Like with Unicron. Voiced by an absolute legend among actors (even if he could have cared less about the VA role he was doing at the time) I personally feel that Unicron should have been a character with exactly 1 life span (the '86 movie) and should NEVER EVER see life again. It's a simple respect thing. Respect the actor, respect the character, let them rest eternal. Same goes for Chris Latta and Starsceam. BUT...that's not something that I would expect todays generation to understand and as a result we will likely get a sh**fest of a TF4 movie with Unicron popping into the picture.
It all boils down to respect. Yes, some of the new writers are trying to show some respect for what came before but done improperly it's just making a farce of it all. Don't blame the first motion picture for being a tired, worn out property (because it isn't) blame the people whop came afterwards that didn't show proper respect for history.

So should we stop using Superman since Christopher Reeves died? Should we stop using the Joker because Heath Ledger died? Should Doctor Who have cancelled because William Hartnell died? How about Sherlock Holmes and Basil Rathborne?

No, because characters aren't defined strictly by those who play them. The performance does lend to the character, to be sure, but retiring iconic characters simply because of the passing of someone who played them is just a waste of a good character.

And those examples? They aren't quite on the same scale, since they weren't, you know, 20-90 minute toy commercials.

"I would have waited an eternity for this" is another over-used one, along with "Light our darkest hour", though the way Ratchet delivered it in Darkness Rising was spot on.