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Treetop Maximus wrote:Unicron confuses me, so I have many questions.

-Isn't Unicron a multiversal singularity?

Yes.

Treetop Maximus wrote:-Does the Unicron vs. Primus story hold true to every universe or not?

While it hasn't been mentioned in every continuity, there's no reason to assume it hasn't.

Treetop Maximus wrote:-If so, does that mean the Primacron backstory is retconned and doesn't hold true anymore?

Pretty much. Best bet is to just assume Primacron was taking credit for stuff he didn't do.

Treetop Maximus wrote:-If Unicron only exists in one universe at a time, why did one of his heralds (can't remember if it was Hook, Line, or Sinker) tell Galvatron that a "different Unicron" existed?

Never take anything a Herald of Unicron says at face value, I guess. it stands to reason that "Hook, Line, and Sinker" means "You fell for my lie/trap/trick/etc."

Treetop Maximus wrote:-What's the official explanation for the lack of continuity between Energon and Cybertron in the Unicron trilogy?

There's two, but they don't contradict each other, both are right:

1. The black hole that made up the premis for the series also completely screwed up time and space, causing the timeline to get all wacky. This is the reason given in-universe.

2. Because there was never meant to be any connection. They wanted to tie in Energon/Armada and Cybertron, despite Superlink and Galaxy Force not having any connection. This didn't slow anyone down. This is the real-life reason.

Treetop Maximus wrote:-How does Unicron keep coming back if he's a multiversal singularity?

There was an official explanation that smart dimension-hoppers will spend some time in dimensions where time stands still or flows backwards, to ensure that if they die in one dimension, they can keep on going elsewhere.

Treetop Maximus wrote:And then The Fallen...

I read on a wiki that ROTF The Fallen is the same guy as the Herald of Unicron Fallen. That seems crazy. Is it true?

It is indeed.

Thanks, Shadowman.

I read that first explanation for the Energon/Cybertron continuity discrepancies somewhere but wasn't sure if it was true.

-If Unicron only exists in one universe at a time, why did one of his heralds (can't remember if it was Hook, Line, or Sinker) tell Galvatron that a "different Unicron" existed?

hook line and sinker were "hired" by a unicron from a different dimension, because he realised that one of his incarnations needed a hand.
glavatron was also from this dmension, or possibly a third one i cant remember.

Can somebody please post Waspinator’s acceptance speech?

ArmadaPrime wrote:

-If Unicron only exists in one universe at a time, why did one of his heralds (can't remember if it was Hook, Line, or Sinker) tell Galvatron that a "different Unicron" existed?

hook line and sinker were "hired" by a unicron from a different dimension, because he realised that one of his incarnations needed a hand.
glavatron was also from this dmension, or possibly a third one i cant remember.

Not quite. Hook, Line and Sinker were from the same time period (1991 to be exact) as the one the story took place in, and they were created from 3 low-life criminals after Unicron ate their home planet. Their first assignment was to fetch Galvatron from a possible future, where Unicron succeeded in eating Cybertron and where Galvatron was relieved of his duties and given conquest of Earth. We know this Galvatron as "Galvatron II". The notion of Unicron being a multiversal singularity, let alone there actually being a multiverse, didn't exist yet. Time travel did however. Go watch Back to the Future

This may seem like a wired qestion but me and sevrel friends wonder this:
On the first film optimus says they are created by the Allspark but in the second film on the metor were the fallen is, there are lots of baby ones. Do they all start off as baby ones?
Is Bay getting it wrong or is he trying to confuse us?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ArmadaPrime wrote:

-If Unicron only exists in one universe at a time, why did one of his heralds (can't remember if it was Hook, Line, or Sinker) tell Galvatron that a "different Unicron" existed?

hook line and sinker were "hired" by a unicron from a different dimension, because he realised that one of his incarnations needed a hand.
glavatron was also from this dmension, or possibly a third one i cant remember.

Not quite. Hook, Line and Sinker were from the same time period (1991 to be exact) as the one the story took place in, and they were created from 3 low-life criminals after Unicron ate their home planet. Their first assignment was to fetch Galvatron from a possible future, where Unicron succeeded in eating Cybertron and where Galvatron was relieved of his duties and given conquest of Earth. We know this Galvatron as "Galvatron II". The notion of Unicron being a multiversal singularity, let alone there actually being a multiverse, didn't exist yet. Time travel did however. Go watch Back to the Future

mind*u*k, methinks?
anyway, what happened to the whole mess-around-with-your-possible-future-and-it-will-mess-aroungd-wit'-you-motha'-flippa.
?
confused...

shockwaves-sister wrote:This may seem like a wired qestion but me and sevrel friends wonder this:
On the first film optimus says they are created by the Allspark but in the second film on the metor were the fallen is, there are lots of baby ones. Do they all start off as baby ones?
Is Bay getting it wrong or is he trying to confuse us?

The hatchlings are shown to die off instantly without the AllSpark. So the AllSpark creates life, but not the body.

ArmadaPrime wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

ArmadaPrime wrote:

-If Unicron only exists in one universe at a time, why did one of his heralds (can't remember if it was Hook, Line, or Sinker) tell Galvatron that a "different Unicron" existed?

hook line and sinker were "hired" by a unicron from a different dimension, because he realised that one of his incarnations needed a hand.
glavatron was also from this dmension, or possibly a third one i cant remember.

Not quite. Hook, Line and Sinker were from the same time period (1991 to be exact) as the one the story took place in, and they were created from 3 low-life criminals after Unicron ate their home planet. Their first assignment was to fetch Galvatron from a possible future, where Unicron succeeded in eating Cybertron and where Galvatron was relieved of his duties and given conquest of Earth. We know this Galvatron as "Galvatron II". The notion of Unicron being a multiversal singularity, let alone there actually being a multiverse, didn't exist yet. Time travel did however. Go watch Back to the Future

**** methinks?
anyway, what happened to the whole mess-around-with-your-possible-future-and-it-will-mess-aroungd-wit'-you-motha'-flippa.
?
confused...

It was already being messed up by the fact the war shifted from the future 2005 of the cartoon, to whatever real life year (in this case 1991). A side-effect of that, revealed years later, is that when Unicron was destroyed, a splinter timeline was created: Classics.

Shadowman wrote:

shockwaves-sister wrote:This may seem like a wired qestion but me and sevrel friends wonder this:
On the first film optimus says they are created by the Allspark but in the second film on the metor were the fallen is, there are lots of baby ones. Do they all start off as baby ones?
Is Bay getting it wrong or is he trying to confuse us?

The hatchlings are shown to die off instantly without the AllSpark. So the AllSpark creates life, but not the body.

Ok but starscream said they needed energon or they will keep diying. So do they all start off as baby ones?

shockwaves-sister wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

shockwaves-sister wrote:This may seem like a wired qestion but me and sevrel friends wonder this:
On the first film optimus says they are created by the Allspark but in the second film on the metor were the fallen is, there are lots of baby ones. Do they all start off as baby ones?
Is Bay getting it wrong or is he trying to confuse us?

The hatchlings are shown to die off instantly without the AllSpark. So the AllSpark creates life, but not the body.

Ok but starscream said they needed energon or they will keep diying. So do they all start off as baby ones?

That's what I just said. AllSpark makes Energon which gives life, but the body is made elsewhere.

Thanks anyway
hmmm confusing subject.
Ok in DOTM theres a decepticon with really long dreadlocks. whats his name? actuly what was every new TF characters name in it. cus there are quite a few new ones and not just main ones either.
I really want to know all there names. I wont bother you again

I... I don't know where to begin.

This thread is amazing on so many levels.

shockwaves-sister wrote:Thanks anyway
hmmm confusing subject.
Ok in DOTM theres a decepticon with really long dreadlocks. whats his name? actuly what was every new TF characters name in it. cus there are quite a few new ones and not just main ones either.
I really want to know all there names. I wont bother you again

Ok, since the names aren't mentioned most of the time:

Dreadlocked bot with cutters behind head: Crankcase
Quadroped (four-legged) Dreadlocked bot: Hatchet
Last Dreadlocked bot: Crowbar

Those three are known as the Dreads.

Red Ferrari: Dino (as in Dee-no, will be named "Mirage" in the toy line)
Blue Mercedes, Einstein lookalike: Que aka Wheeljack

Small Smokes-a-lot: Brains

Blue Nascar: Topspin
Green Nascar: Roadbuster
Red Nascar: Leadfoot

Police bot at execution scene: Barricade (yes, he's returned)
Silver Mercedes: Soundwave
Flying master of disguise and assassin: Laserbeak

And finally, Megatron's pet walking head: Igor.

shockwaves-sister wrote:Thanks anyway
hmmm confusing subject.
Ok in DOTM theres a decepticon with really long dreadlocks. whats his name? actuly what was every new TF characters name in it. cus there are quite a few new ones and not just main ones either.
I really want to know all there names. I wont bother you again

I'm sorry but only some were named, others like the garbage truck and superfund truck never were named

(and if you'd like to know the names of most of them just look up: TFwiki

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

shockwaves-sister wrote:Thanks anyway
hmmm confusing subject.
Ok in DOTM theres a decepticon with really long dreadlocks. whats his name? actuly what was every new TF characters name in it. cus there are quite a few new ones and not just main ones either.
I really want to know all there names. I wont bother you again

Ok, since the names aren't mentioned most of the time:

Dreadlocked bot with cutters behind head: Crankcase
Quadroped (four-legged) Dreadlocked bot: Hatchet
Last Dreadlocked bot: Crowbar

Those three are known as the Dreads.

Red Ferrari: Dino (as in Dee-no, will be named "Mirage" in the toy line)
Blue Mercedes, Einstein lookalike: Que aka Wheeljack

Small Smokes-a-lot: Brains

Blue Nascar: Topspin
Green Nascar: Roadbuster
Red Nascar: Leadfoot

Police bot at execution scene: Barricade (yes, he's returned)
Silver Mercedes: Soundwave
Flying master of disguise and assassin: Laserbeak

And finally, Megatron's pet walking head: Igor.

aww thanks your awsome . I only stared to get into it 2years ago(14th b'day) so i know pretty much nothing about it hence lots of qestions

Blurrz is a man, right?

Treetop Maximus wrote:Blurrz is a man, right?

It's something mankind was not meant to know. The one person who ever learned the answer went completely insane and died shortly after.

Shadowman wrote:

Treetop Maximus wrote:Blurrz is a man, right?

It's something mankind was not meant to know. The one person who ever learned the answer went completely insane and died shortly after.

Don't be like that. You must know. Come on. TELL MEG45y6r7rtyftH23df32edFYH766fdyiyj7812y6ue4kyukirtdyete5e7u57e4w65yert5uyrt!!!!1!!1!!!!111111!!!1!!!!1!!

Treetop Maximus wrote:Blurrz is a man, right?

there are doubts about that one...

What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Name_Violation wrote:What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Is that an African or a European swallow?

Could somebody put the instruction sheet for RID Galvatron down please?

(The father figure thru out the old instructions! )

Blast Cannon wrote:

Name_Violation wrote:What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

Is that an African or a European swallow?

What? I don’t know that! (Explosion)

okay I really liked this thread, so could we get this back on the gold bricked road?