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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Hotrodimust » Mon May 14, 2012 8:15 am

They made wheel jack a wrecker in the show if he was an inventor still it really wouldn't fit. And wheeljack is my second favorite autobot and I like how he is in the show but I kinda wish he still had the light up things on the side of his head when he talked but only when he has his mask up because it would look funny with him mouth moving
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 14, 2012 8:19 am

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Hotrodimust wrote:They made wheel jack a wrecker in the show if he was an inventor still it really wouldn't fit.
Well, the Wreckers need a guy to fix their stuff and make their weapons and such. Wheeljack used to do that way back when.
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Hotrodimust » Mon May 14, 2012 8:28 am

Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 14, 2012 8:41 am

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Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it
The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby RAcast » Mon May 14, 2012 8:59 am

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Sabrblade wrote:Armada Wheeljack was a turncoat Sideswipe lookalike. ;)


For what it's worth, that character has no relation to any other WJ. It's not even an homage. :P I suspect the name was just chosen due to availability. The character Downshift, the Wheeljack homage from Energon/Cybertron, was called WJ in Japan.

From UT Downshift's page:
"The Japanese version of the character was to be called "Downshift" (ダウンシフト Daunshifuto), like the English version, till he was renamed "Wheeljack" in accordance with the homage he became during the design phase. "

And I gonna agree with the popular sentiment about Prime Wheeljack. It sat a little strange with me at first, that they basically turned him into Drift, but after I saw the episode my complaints disappeared. He's a pretty great character.
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Hotrodimust » Mon May 14, 2012 9:12 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it
The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.

Yes I know but we are talking about the prime show not g1 or the comic books. So ratchet is mr fix it on the show they don't need two characters like that. And I don't need to be informed about what's what in the TFs universe I seen the original in theaters and when I was a kid g1 was on shelves I'm not one of the new kids that got into it because of the movies I know my shit. Well maybe not the uk stuff or Japanese shows because I don't like reading while watching a movie it just dosnt make sence to me lol. But thank you anyways
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 14, 2012 9:23 am

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Hotrodimust wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it
The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.

Yes I know but we are talking about the prime show not g1 or the comic books. So ratchet is mr fix it on the show they don't need two characters like that.
And I'm not talking about G1 either. I'm talking about Prime. Ratchet left Cybertron aboard the Ark while the Wreckers stayed behind on the Dark Energon-infested planet.

And, what do you mean by "two characters like that"? Ratchet's a medic, who specializes in healing. Wheeljack was a n inventor/engineer, who specialized in weapon/gadget design and maintenance. Those are two different professions.
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Hotrodimust » Mon May 14, 2012 9:36 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Ya but that's ratchets job now he's mr fix it
The Wreckers were their own unit who acted outside the system of authority. They would have had to had had their own resources and such.

Plus, they stayed behind on Cybertron when the Ark departed (which Ratchet was aboard), so there's no way Ratchet could have been there for them.

Yes I know but we are talking about the prime show not g1 or the comic books. So ratchet is mr fix it on the show they don't need two characters like that.
And I'm not talking about G1 either. I'm talking about Prime. Ratchet left Cybertron aboard the Ark while the Wreckers stayed behind on the Dark Energon-infested planet.

And, what do you mean by "two characters like that"? Ratchet's a medic, who specializes in healing. Wheeljack was a n inventor/engineer, who specialized in weapon/gadget design and maintenance. Those are two different professions.

Lol why do I even bother there are 6 autobots on the show lets make 2 of them the guys that stay at base. Your thinking about this the wrong way plus there is Raph who's computer smarts and ratchet seems to be an inventor to since he built the ground bridge. It's not what could make sence it's what works for the show and it's limited characters it's not like g1 with a bunch of bots everywhere and it's a kid show we don't wanna confuse them right lol
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Sabrblade » Mon May 14, 2012 9:42 am

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Hotrodimust wrote:Lol why do I even bother there are 6 autobots on the show lets make 2 of them the guys that stay at base. Your thinking about this the wrong way plus there is Raph who's computer smarts and ratchet seems to be an inventor to since he built the ground bridge. It's not what could make sence it's what works for the show and it's limited characters it's not like g1 with a bunch of bots everywhere and it's a kid show we don't wanna confuse them right lol
All I'm saying is that Prime Wheeljack used to be an engineer for the Wreckers, but isn't anymore. While Ratchet may have some tech smarts, it isn't his primary function.

After Ratchet left Cybertron on the Ark, Wheeljack was the guy the Wreckers turned to for gizmos and weaponry. But, that's in the past since he's grown to be more of a warrior now. None of this comes from G1 or comic books or whatever. It's all in the continuity of TF: Prime.
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Re: Ken Christiansen Reveals Transformers Prime Ironhide Concept Art

Postby Hotrodimust » Mon May 14, 2012 9:53 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Hotrodimust wrote:Lol why do I even bother there are 6 autobots on the show lets make 2 of them the guys that stay at base. Your thinking about this the wrong way plus there is Raph who's computer smarts and ratchet seems to be an inventor to since he built the ground bridge. It's not what could make sence it's what works for the show and it's limited characters it's not like g1 with a bunch of bots everywhere and it's a kid show we don't wanna confuse them right lol
All I'm saying is that Prime Wheeljack used to be an engineer for the Wreckers, but isn't anymore. While Ratchet may have some tech smarts, it isn't his primary function.

After Ratchet left Cybertron on the Ark, Wheeljack was the guy the Wreckers turned to for gizmos and weaponry. But, that's in the past since he's grown to be more of a warrior now. None of this comes from G1 or comic books or whatever. It's all in the continuity of TF: Prime.

Do they make a comic book with like back stories or something because the only stuff I know about wheeljack is from the show they don't say that much about him. If so I would like to read it because the only thing TFs to read now is the 2 new series from IDW plus autocracy and it's not enuff to keep me satisfied lol. I do have to finish exodus it's hard to get into it since I kinda know the story.
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