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News Credits: 5749 · by **El Duque** » Fri May 18, 2012 10:49 am

Ken Christiansen has updated his Bad Flip Production blog with Prima, one of the thirteen Primes. Technically not new, as noted by Ken this image was featured in last year's Transformers: Vault, but he's now been given permission to post the image. According to Ken he's also drawn eleven of the other Primes, hopefully we will get to see those as well.

know Aaron and Rik (the Hasbro boys) have shown others I had worked on, like Leige Maximo, Vector Prime, etc. at conventions, but as far as I know, this is the only one out there.

Again, working with Eric Siebenaler, I began a bunch of pencil sketches, but one clearly stood out, and it's basically a rough pencil version of what's above. I themed him in a loose Samurai style, and reversed engineered details from Optimus Prime, to make that visual connection, as a descendant in the Prime Line. He was nicknamed the Warrior of Light, so we went with a really ornate style, with the piped lighting over a quasi-mother of pearl armor. The similar cues from Optimus only number a few, but are pretty overt - the facemask, helmet spikes, split chest 'windows', and I managed to put a G1 cue in there, the two bands over a triangle on the forearm. The sword was a joint design effort, Eric had sketched out the two-bladed idea, with the Matrix in the hilt, so I basically redesigned it to fit the look of the character/armor.

by **orangeitis** » Fri May 18, 2012 11:05 am

It does look cool otherwise, but I can't get past that no-nose design. Instantly ruins the look IMO.

by **RAcast** » Fri May 18, 2012 11:18 am

orangeitis wrote:It does look cool otherwise, but I can't get past that no-nose design. Instantly ruins the look IMO.

Just looks like an expanded faceplate to me.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 18, 2012 12:09 pm

Only 11 of the rest, huh? I guess that's why we don't see all 13 in "One Shall Rise - Part 1".

orangeitis wrote:It does look cool otherwise, but I can't get past that no-nose design. Instantly ruins the look IMO.

Compare to his actual TF: Prime design:

News Credits: 3 · by **MarkNL** » Fri May 18, 2012 12:20 pm

I love how there's a matrix shape in his sword.

News Credits: 4 · by **RogueDeathangel** » Fri May 18, 2012 12:23 pm

I never noticed the two lines and triangle on the forearms! That is supremely AWESOME.

News Credits: 37 · by **SlyTF1** » Fri May 18, 2012 12:26 pm

I really wish they'd hurry up and make a toyline of the first 13!!!

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 18, 2012 12:26 pm

Mark(NL) wrote:I love how there's a matrix shape in his sword.

It is the Matrix. The Matrix used to be the hilt jewel of his sword, the Star Saber.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 18, 2012 12:31 pm

SlyTF1 wrote:I really wish they'd hurry up and make a toyline of the first 13!!!

They said at either BotCon 2010 or 2011 that there aren't any plans for toys of the Thirteen in these designs, as these designs were made without toys of them in mind.

by **RAcast** » Fri May 18, 2012 12:36 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:I really wish they'd hurry up and make a toyline of the first 13!!!
They said at either BotCon 2010 or 2011 that there aren't any plans for toys of the Thirteen in these designs, as these designs were made without toys of them in mind.

Indeed...I mean. What does it do? Prima looks like he transforms into a while lotta nothing.

Like freetouch on Facebook · by **freetouch** » Fri May 18, 2012 1:16 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:I really wish they'd hurry up and make a toyline of the first 13!!!
They said at either BotCon 2010 or 2011 that there aren't any plans for toys of the Thirteen in these designs, as these designs were made without toys of them in mind.

Well, that and if hasbro did decide to make a toyline, the first 13 would turn into the first 3 and a **** ton of bumblebee because of their terrible distribution and amazing willingness to cancel a line because they can't figure out why no one is buying the toys that they can't get to the store anyway.

by **crazyjeffy** » Fri May 18, 2012 1:32 pm

When I first saw it the first thing that came to mind was the draenei concept art from before world of warcraft: the burning crusade.

I don't play anymore, but that's what it looked like to me.

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Fri May 18, 2012 3:57 pm

Is this project based on the movie because it seems to draw heavily from it. Aside from that; I don't understand the coloring (it seems too bland); I don't understand how the astetics relates to other designs; and I feel the subtle cues he mentioned are too subtle (except for the Matrix hilt, which I feel is over the top). It doesn't make me think of Transformers when I look at it. Sorry, perhaps I am not understanding the project fully.

by **kriksix** » Fri May 18, 2012 4:47 pm

beautiful design!

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri May 18, 2012 4:52 pm

That sword.... I hope that sword makes an appearance in Prime.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:46 pm

Stormrider wrote:Is this project based on the movie because it seems to draw heavily from it. Aside from that; I don't understand the coloring (it seems too bland); I don't understand how the astetics relates to other designs; and I feel the subtle cues he mentioned are too subtle (except for the Matrix hilt, which I feel is over the top). It doesn't make me think of Transformers when I look at it. Sorry, perhaps I am not understanding the project fully.

This is Aligned Continuity Prima.

Those who were at BotCon 2010 got to see images of the Aligned Continuity versions of Prima, Alpha Trion, Liege Maximo, Vector Prime, Megatronus Prime, The Fallen, and all again at Botcon 2011, this time along with Nexus Prime and Solus Prime.

Mindmaster wrote:That sword.... I hope that sword makes an appearance in Prime.

'Twould be the Star Saber, with the Matrix in its hilt. Currently, the novels are telling the sword's story, so the cartoon may not instead.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Fri May 18, 2012 5:58 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Mindmaster wrote:That sword.... I hope that sword makes an appearance in Prime.
'Twould be the Star Saber, with the Matrix in its hilt. Currently, the novels are telling the sword's story, so the cartoon may not instead.

That just killed me... :HEADHURTS:

News Credits: 1 · by **Sodan-1** » Fri May 18, 2012 8:23 pm

Oh wow! Those bands and triangles are a serious nod to the old school. I still think his legs are too short.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Sat May 19, 2012 9:47 am

Now I want to see the other 12 (13 if The Fallen is a separate design)

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat May 19, 2012 4:57 pm

Mkall wrote:Now I want to see the other 12 (13 if The Fallen is a separate design)

Those who were at BotCon 2010 and 2011 got to see Alpha Trion, Liege Maximo, Prima, Vector Prime, Megatronus, The Fallen, Nexus Prime (2011 only), and Solus Prime (2011).

I think I recall running into you at BotCon 2011, so there's a chance you've seen those listed above.

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Sat May 19, 2012 5:06 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Mkall wrote:Now I want to see the other 12 (13 if The Fallen is a separate design)
Those who were at BotCon 2010 and 2011 got to see Alpha Trion, Liege Maximo, Prima, Vector Prime, Megatronus, The Fallen, Nexus Prime (2011 only), and Solus Prime (2011).

I think I recall running into you at BotCon 2011, so there's a chance you've seen those listed above.

I didn't get to see the rest of the art because I wasn't at BotCon... :-(

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Sat May 19, 2012 8:24 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Those who were at BotCon 2010 got to see images of the Aligned Continuity versions of Prima, Alpha Trion, Liege Maximo, Vector Prime, Megatronus Prime, The Fallen, and all again at Botcon 2011, this time along with Nexus Prime and Solus Prime.

Megatronus Prime IS The Fallen. Did they give him different designs pre- and post-betrayal?

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Sat May 19, 2012 8:36 pm

That Bot wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Those who were at BotCon 2010 got to see images of the Aligned Continuity versions of Prima, Alpha Trion, Liege Maximo, Vector Prime, Megatronus Prime, The Fallen, and all again at Botcon 2011, this time along with Nexus Prime and Solus Prime.

Megatronus Prime IS The Fallen. Did they give him different designs pre- and post-betrayal?

Yes. He got two similar but still quite different designs.