can MP10 pull the UM trailer? cause if so....rpetras wrote:If this could somehow incorporate with MP 22, that would be PERFECT!
I know it can't, but I can hope can't I?
shajaki wrote:can MP10 pull the UM trailer? cause if so....rpetras wrote:If this could somehow incorporate with MP 22, that would be PERFECT!
I know it can't, but I can hope can't I?
shajaki wrote:can MP10 pull the UM trailer? cause if so....rpetras wrote:If this could somehow incorporate with MP 22, that would be PERFECT!
I know it can't, but I can hope can't I?
shajaki wrote:i see they went with a silver bumper...
i wonder what the possibilities of takara making a white MP10 are?
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
No, the truck bed on the MP-10 mold is too high in order to accommodate the proper proportions for the legs.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:Not silly to some people, myself included...
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:Ad a kid, I loved that UM was a white Prime inside an armor shell. But, then, I never actually had Optimus as a kid.
Just sayin', X, that not everyone shares your opinion, and it sometimes comes off as condescending...
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:I don't mind disagreeing with you, X. It just appears that you don't ever take into consideration others' opinions. The 1980s was a very different time than today. What you call lazy was quite innovative for the time. Plus, Hasbro was taking a risk with the re-purposed Diaclone toys. Well, at the end, it appears that they were trying to ride the wave of popularity of transforming toys and getting whatever they could that was similar into their line.
The cartoon was a commercial for the toys. This is where the reasoning fails. As far as I recall, the toys came first then the animators tried to work them into the cartoon.
And I wasn't offended. But try to think of it from other people's perspective; what does it say when someone calls someone else's opinion "silly" when both are very valid? Just something to consider...
Back to this, while I do like it as a concept, and would maybe get my first MP-10 mold as UM, I feel a little icky about pursuing a KO. But I do have to admit, the paint applications are impressive for a KO. Depending on the plastic quality this could be a quality item. But, still, it's a KO...
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:I own MP-22. I love it! I also own Titanium UM, and I love the engineering and transformation that went into it, especially considering the line it was in. (I also loved the Titanium take on Rodimus.) I am not opposed to having an UM that is not a white prime in armor. It's just that my first exposure to UM was when my cousin got one for his birthday. This was before I saw the movie. So I always thought UM was a white bot in armor. (Hence why I said that some of us don't think it's silly. That's why there was chatter, and hope, that MP UM was going to be a white Prime in armor. There's nothing wrong with that opinion, nor with wanting the opposite. Neither are really "silly" though...)
As far as KO, I'm not going to rehash the whole debate. Intellectual Property is an interesting monster to consider, especially from the many different perspectives. However, regardless of your arguments for the quality of KOs, it is still theft, which is something that bothers me a lot. It's not an artist's interpretation of a figure, it is an exact copy. That for me completely crosses the line into unethical territory.
Perhaps I justify the dive into 3P because I mostly get figures that don't already have a Classics Hasbro version. Yet, I almost always buy the Hasbro version when it does come out. I don't feel great about it. And some 3P stuff is truly innovative. (FP's Smart Robin is a prime example of outdoing Hasbro, in my opinion.)
But, KOs are just copies...
Rated X wrote:As far as KOs, open up your mind. High quality KOs are doing the fans a service by giving them obscure repaints and characters Hasbro has no plans of doing.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:I never said I was opposed to talk of KO. (I did say I wouldn't rehash the same old KO arguments...) I was replying to this statement in particular:Rated X wrote:As far as KOs, open up your mind. High quality KOs are doing the fans a service by giving them obscure repaints and characters Hasbro has no plans of doing.
This statement seems to be you telling me to open my mind on purchasing/collecting KOs. I justified why I do not like them. I didn't say that I did not like talking about them, nor advocated for not talking about them.
As far as community property rules and IP transitioning to them, you do realize that there are laws that govern this, right? It isn't up to us to decide some arbitrary amount of time. It is up to the government to decide some arbitrary amount of time.
So, you may feel that a significant amount of time has passed, and that some of the molds should be open to the community. I will say that as long as there are legal implications on why that is wrong, it is unethical to outright copy someone else's design. That's my opinion, and why I do not, in general, condone straight up KOs.
And in the fairness in disclosure realm, I do have to admit that I can only recall 2 KOs that I have. The first is one that I am not sure because I bought a loose and incomplete Megatron a great number of years ago off of Ebay that I am now pretty sure is a KO. When I sell some of my stuff of, I'll replace with a G1 or Encore version. (And, ouch says my wallet, which is why I will sell some of my current stuff.) The other was a Vehicle Voltron I picked up at Fleet Farm more than 20 years ago, so I thought it was more or less legit. I'm pretty sure that is a KO as well as some of the paint scheme isn't completely accurate to the toys.
And here I said I wasn't going to rehash this discussion...
So, yeah, this KO UM looks really great, but it still makes me feel queasy...
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
Agamemnon wrote:Dude, straw men again, X....
Rated X wrote:Agamemnon wrote:Dude, straw men again, X....
If you want to call it that.
I call it looking at the bigger picture...
Let the powers that be lead by example and more people will follow.
william-james88 wrote:Also be weary of hope in this hobby. Hope is just undiscovered disappointment.
Agamemnon, barebacked rider of flying robo-dragon, and not often constipated either...My nephew wrote:Bacon is meat candy.
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