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Kold Blue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:20 pm

I have to admit I've had my eye on these for quite some time. A few weeks ago I noticed a lot less of the blue guy around and one guy on ebay's trying to offload his for over $100. So I figured the time was right for me to get it. Chimungmung had 'em for a halfway decent price, so I figured I'd get 'em.

The traielr was more of an afterthought. I knew it's be shitty, but I gotta admit ... pictures and stories don't really do it justice. The words "display piece" have never been truer than with this guy. They should name the completed form "Shitty Kommander"! While FP's armor fits tightly and looks amazing, this looks amazing and falls totally to pieces. Not even the shoulder launchers actually fit securely! It's actually pretty pathetic.

blue Konvoy is a floppy POS, but a shiny, kinda sharp floppy POS. Of course the hands were swapped and an arm was backwards ... these are made by the same guys who made those shitty KO Seekers! This thing does not really hold together in vehicle mode at itt, it wants to fall apart in my hands. I'm going to have to do the glue trick to make things batter. I'm also using Classics Prime's guns / smokestacks for the back, the ones it came with just don't stay on.

These also pretty sloppy paint apps for what was KOToy's "exclucive" lineup. silver paint where silver paint ought not to be!

But it does LOOK sharp. Not really combined (I'll have to tape some cardboard to some of the armor bits to even get it halfway useable), but Prime alone looks nice. I gotta admit, I do like how the blue version looks.

Even with the combined rate all together I think I paid too much. They may get lower eventually as they go on even further clearance. There can't still be too many of these guys in stock everywhere. There just can't. And if there are then I paid way too much.

If you don't mind shitty KO quality then Kold blue Konvoy is for you. Can't recommend getting the KO traielr with it. I mean if you're OCD like me, I suppose you'd want it. If I buy a POS KO I'd want it to be a COMPLETE POS KO. But sane people would be best advised to just put their money into a batter toy.
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Scaleface » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:12 am

You must have gotten a bad one, as while loose, they are not horribly so in my experience. Sadly the QC on KOLD toys isn't great. You gamble with quality with each purchase.

Here is the wiki page on Blue Konvoy: http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Blue_Konvoy

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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:42 am

Scaleface wrote:You must have gotten a bad one, as while loose, they are not horribly so in my experience. Sadly the QC on KOLD toys isn't great. You gamble with quality with each purchase.

Here is the wiki page on Blue Konvoy: http://en.wikialpha.org/wiki/Blue_Konvoy

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Maybe other people's definition of horribly floppy is different than mine.

The article saying he looks nice with the DIA KO is funny. It just barely holds together.

"Shitty Commander! Keep your armor together, the Decepticons are attacking!"

"I'm trying, sir, but my gloves just won't stay on."

It's odd, my blue Konvy came with a totally different box than the one pictured, showcasing a few of the convoys in the Kold lineup (done int he familiar convoy kold art style). Of course I went in with my eyes wide open, I didn't actually expect good quality here.
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Dead Metal » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:02 pm

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Oh wow, I think you just opened a can of worms, because I know someone who'll earn himself a warning the moment he posts in this, due to flaming you.


Yea, well you can still glue the piece of sh*t together and make a cool looking statue out of it.
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:25 pm

Dead Metal wrote:Yea, well you can still glue the piece of sh*t together and make a cool looking statue out of it.


:lol:

"Prime! I finally found a way to get keep armor together. Now you can rest assured that I'm ready to deal with any situation!"

"Good work Shitty Kommander. Autobots ... transform and roll out!"

"Aw ... crap."

Well, I will say this about the KO armor: the trailer mode fits together perfectly!
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby JRFitzpatrick7 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:54 pm

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I have the FP City Commander armor and don't really care for it. sort of hinders articulation. The Blue armor does look nice though, maybe as a display piece.

Also, i didn't know we were allowed to use the word "shitty" in the forums. Can we drop F bombs?
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:42 pm

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:I have the FP City Commander armor and don't really care for it.

INSANITY!!
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Rated X » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:09 pm

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I think you got a dud my friend. My Blue convoy looks perfect with great paint apps and nice tight joints. Same thing for My KO SG Prime. I did have cracked plastic on the Black Convoy (Winterfest KO) But it was a dud most likely too. You are right about the smokestacks being extremely loose in truck mode, but my parts box doesn’t seem to mind their company. I also got the KO DIA, Shadow, and SG Purple trailers. But since my regular City Commander is not a KO, I can judge the quality differences between the two fairly. The Shoulder and Arm armor are loose. But the key is to use foam adhesive stickers on the inside of the parts to provide that extra thickness. It stays hidden and keeps em tight, problem solved. If the missile launchers are a little loose, roll a small piece of black electric tape around the peg a couple times. Easy fix.

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Sorry to hear you got bad CHMS seekers. Must have been more duds. Only problems I had, was with the yellow version of Sunstorm. It suffers from the “gold plastic syndrome”. I wouldn’t advise bending the elbows on that particular version. The joint will crack. Also the ghost Starscreams are prone to cracking at the elbow because of weak clear plastic. But only the starscreams. I Had no problems with the ghost Skywarp, ghost Thundercracker, or ghost Coneheads. I guess only the clear white plastic mix was weak. I’ve had pretty good luck with CHMS and KOLD considering, the amount of figures I have purchased from them through KO Toys in the past. (around 50) Mike from KO Toys always used send me replacement parts and figures whenever I had an issue. He knew that I was a serious customer and valued my business. I can only speak for my own experiences with KO Toys.
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Rated X » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:13 pm

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Dead Metal wrote:Oh wow, I think you just opened a can of worms, because I know someone who'll earn himself a warning the moment he posts in this, due to flaming you.


Yea, well you can still glue the piece of sh*t together and make a cool looking statue out of it.



Hey do me a favor and tell that guy you know to PM me. I’m always looking to meet new friends that like KO’s as much I do for insight on future purchases. Thanks.
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 8:29 pm

Yeah, I never seem to get these "perfect" KOs that people keep talking about. They all just have one problem after another.

I may see if I can't get that foam, though.

Although, along with Shitty Kommander, I got CHMS Punch/Counterpunch. And he's actually pretty good. I was going to make a seperate topic on that one later, after I examine him a bit more.

However, I felt the crapitude that is the blue Kold Convoy and the KO City Commander set he came with together was so spectacularily bad that I felt it deserved it's own recognition. Especially since the Kold line was supposed to be high priced exclucives. I read the reviews, so I wasn't surprised, but it's still pretty sad.
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Rated X » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:18 pm

Motto: ""Assumption is the mother of all screw ups.""
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Gauntlet101010 wrote:Yeah, I never seem to get these "perfect" KOs that people keep talking about. They all just have one problem after another.

I may see if I can't get that foam, though.

Although, along with Shitty Kommander, I got CHMS Punch/Counterpunch. And he's actually pretty good. I was going to make a seperate topic on that one later, after I examine him a bit more.

However, I felt the crapitude that is the blue Kold Convoy and the KO City Commander set he came with together was so spectacularily bad that I felt it deserved it's own recognition. Especially since the Kold line was supposed to be high priced exclucives. I read the reviews, so I wasn't surprised, but it's still pretty sad.



I was equally impressed with my CHMS G1 Breakdown. Only thing you may notice is that in their mold, they got the holes wrong if you wanted to fit the engine piece on the robots back in “Sunstreaker mode”. The engine pegs are too fat and the holes are too small. Even the pegs on an original Hasbro engine piece are too big for the tiny holes. They have to be filed down if you want them to fit. I guess CHMS overlooked this because all 4 of their KO’s are designed to be displayed in “Sideswipe mode”. And for Punch/Counterpunch, the engine piece becomes part of his gun.

I have had my fair share of duds, but like I sad Mike took care of me whenever I had an issue. Whenever I needed a replacement, I requested that he “test” the new figure by transforming it and checking for the issue I had previously. That always worked when I got the replacement. But QC wise, my blue convoy was pretty much spot on. It did have one Autobot symbol faded slightly pinkish, but not too bad. I didn’t complain because it was meant to be displayed in the FP Armor. If you ever need insight on a KO before you buy it, hit me up. If it’s classics themed, Ill be the first one to buy it and take one for the team.
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Re: Kold Blue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:36 pm

I noticed that, I tried to fit the engine on right away. I want to make a more detailed look at it. That aside, paint apps on the back bumper are imperfect, the car doesn't fit together 100%, the head pops off whever I try to move it, it felt liek the hood part was glued on and I had to really pull in the initial transformation, there's a stress mark in an unusual place (near the headlights), there's no rubsigns (naturally), and the paint on CP's visor sucks.

That said, it's tight and there's no immediate evidence of mold degredation. But I need to directly compare it to a Sideswipe to really know that. All in all, I feel it's a good product. The vehicle mode could have held together better, but it's still good. Better than the Seekers would have led me to believe.

I did read a few reviews of the Kold figure like I said, but I'm definately not impressed with this quality-wise. Quality-wise it's weak. Nowhere near the $100+ I saw on ebay recently. When something costs the kind of money this commanded at it's original price, I do not go easy on it.

As for KOToys, it's gone and irrelevant to the topic, aside from this being one of their old "exclucives". But, if you insist on bringing it up, they did do decent enough with problem solving ... when I managed to contact them. However, actually getting a hold of anyone required herculean efforts. At other online stores or individual seller I'd just e-mail someone and there was a near immediate response. Even from smaller toy stores it was like this. Not so with KO Toys. By the end I felt like I was tossing the dice on each and every one of my orders. Would it appear? Would there be a defect? How long would it take for the experience of gettign a product be over?
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Re: Kold Blue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Rated X » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:15 pm

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I know how you feel. I just was fortunate to have a good run of luck. I have the original TFCC Counterpunch, but I am thinking of buying one of those “no box” specials on the KO so Punch can be with his Autobot crew. I’m just waiting for the new Deep Cover/Scamper to be in stock, then Ill place my 1st order with chimungmung for both. Unless E-bay beats his price. I had gotten G1 Breakdown on E-bay for $40.00 with free shipping from China. You cant beat that. I had bought all those Primes from KO Toys when he was liquidating his stock. Got the SG one for $20.00 I think. And I think the Black Convoy that cracked wasn’t much more. I also got a “uncarded” KO Nemesis Prime that is bad ass for $13.00. Same quality as the others has no issues. He looks exactly like sleep mode Prime. (no Teal or con signs like SDCC version) The cracked Black Convoy just stays in his Shadow Commander shell. I’m shocked you didn’t have any luck with the seekers. Which ones did you get ?
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Re: Kold Bloue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Scaleface » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:55 am

Gauntlet101010 wrote:It's odd, my blue Konvy came with a totally different box than the one pictured, showcasing a few of the convoys in the Kold lineup (done int he familiar convoy kold art style). Of course I went in with my eyes wide open, I didn't actually expect good quality here.


If you can take a picture of the packaging I'd love to see it. I was unaware of any other variant. Maybe they made another run of the toy?
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Re: Kold Blue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:40 am

@Scaleface: sure, I'll take a pic of the box. Maybe of the toy as well. Could be another run.

@Rated X: I made out like a bandit during their closing sale. I love the Seeker mold and got a ton of those. And I've bought them at their original prices back when I thought the idea of exclusive KO repaints had some integrity (HAH!). Of the KO Seekers I have:
- Sunstorm
- Sunnystorm
- Air Warrior
- cheap pink Starscream
- cheap (not CHMS) Thundercracker
- Black Death Starscream
- all 3 Rainmakers
- Universe Starscream
- new KO of Henkei Starscream
- Kold klear Starscream (X4) (the first one broke and I got 3 during KOtoy's closing sale for replacement parts)

So, yeah, I got more than a few. I feel pretty confident in my assessment of KOs. I wouldn't say i didn't have "any luck" with the Seekers, but none of them are what I'd call perfect either. They range from piss poor, but cool looking, to decent, but not HasTak quality (with is acceptable to me).
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Re: Kold Blue Konvoy and KO FP Armor

Postby Gauntlet101010 » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:10 am

Here's some pics of the box.

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