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Lawsuit ended with Sony and Immersion...Is rumble back?!

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 10:03 pm
by FracturedKoi
IGN network recently reported that Immersion and Sony have ended their long going bout over the force feedback technology!

Check out the following link for details and pray that we see a new SixAxis controller in the works!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/769/769390p1.html

PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:40 pm
by The Happy Locust
for the record, companies like immersion and the company that's suing Nintendo over the wiimote's functions are what we call "patent-squatters". They come up with an idea, patent the idea without a working design, prototype, or production, and then sue the first company to actually make it.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:04 am
by TheMuffin
The Happy Locust wrote:for the record, companies like immersion and the company that's suing Nintendo over the wiimote's functions are what we call "patent-squatters". They come up with an idea, patent the idea without a working design, prototype, or production, and then sue the first company to actually make it.


Yeah. But some companies like Microsoft are smart enough to just pay them the royalties to avoid spending many more millions in court.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:10 am
by Tweezy
TheMuffin wrote:
The Happy Locust wrote:for the record, companies like immersion and the company that's suing Nintendo over the wiimote's functions are what we call "patent-squatters". They come up with an idea, patent the idea without a working design, prototype, or production, and then sue the first company to actually make it.


Yeah. But some companies like Microsoft are smart enough to just pay them the royalties to avoid spending many more millions in court.

It's still essentially the same thing as fat people suing McDonalds because they let themselves become fat from eating their food. These "patent squatters" are suing companies because they produced the same product. only that same product produced wasn't just a good idea written down on paper and left to rot in the throughs of patent hell!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:26 am
by TheMuffin
Tha Tweezrrr wrote:
TheMuffin wrote:
The Happy Locust wrote:for the record, companies like immersion and the company that's suing Nintendo over the wiimote's functions are what we call "patent-squatters". They come up with an idea, patent the idea without a working design, prototype, or production, and then sue the first company to actually make it.


Yeah. But some companies like Microsoft are smart enough to just pay them the royalties to avoid spending many more millions in court.

It's still essentially the same thing as fat people suing McDonalds because they let themselves become fat from eating their food. These "patent squatters" are suing companies because they produced the same product. only that same product produced wasn't just a good idea written down on paper and left to rot in the throughs of patent hell!


But. If you had created something (we'll use the rumble technology) and paid the money to have it patented, would you not be pissed if some giant company like Sony decided to steal your exact design and not pay for it?

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:39 am
by Tweezy
TheMuffin wrote:
Tha Tweezrrr wrote:
TheMuffin wrote:
The Happy Locust wrote:for the record, companies like immersion and the company that's suing Nintendo over the wiimote's functions are what we call "patent-squatters". They come up with an idea, patent the idea without a working design, prototype, or production, and then sue the first company to actually make it.


Yeah. But some companies like Microsoft are smart enough to just pay them the royalties to avoid spending many more millions in court.

It's still essentially the same thing as fat people suing McDonalds because they let themselves become fat from eating their food. These "patent squatters" are suing companies because they produced the same product. only that same product produced wasn't just a good idea written down on paper and left to rot in the throughs of patent hell!


But. If you had created something (we'll use the rumble technology) and paid the money to have it patented, would you not be pissed if some giant company like Sony decided to steal your exact design and not pay for it?

Unless I had a working model and was marketing it for profit, I would actually be quite honored that sony thought my idea was good enough to steal. but that's just me personally!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:42 am
by TheMuffin
So...You would want your idea stolen by a billion dollar company because they didn't want to spend a few thousand to come up with it for themselves...You'd be honored if someone else made millions of dollars off of your idea while you make nothing on it.

Just because there was no working prototype of the tech means nothing. All it says to me is they hadn't found a product to include it in yet.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:58 am
by Tweezy
TheMuffin wrote:So...You would want your idea stolen by a billion dollar company because they didn't want to spend a few thousand to come up with it for themselves...You'd be honored if someone else made millions of dollars off of your idea while you make nothing on it.

Just because there was no working prototype of the tech means nothing. All it says to me is they hadn't found a product to include it in yet.

You raise a very good point. Touche. But I only said I would be honored if they THOUGHT the idea was good enough to steal. stealing the idea would still make me pissed though!

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:57 pm
by The Happy Locust
TheMuffin wrote:Just because there was no working prototype of the tech means nothing. All it says to me is they hadn't found a product to include it in yet.


Definition of patent troll

Here's what i was referring to.

PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2007 3:31 pm
by Handels-Messerschmitt
It'd be funny if they put rumble back since they've said that it wasn't part of their future anymore. It's a good feature, though.