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Decepticon_Vandal wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:So first go from people complaining there isn't enough robot charachter development, to there being to much character development. I wonder if anyone in the movie industry will ever take the fandom seriously.

That wasn't at all what he was talking about. If you tl;dr'd this post then don't reply at all.

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Haha.. NO trolling here. Buuuuutt...... After looking back i can defenatly see how that could have been "bating". My apoligies to the OP.

The point is was trying to make is that is was funny to be going from one extreme to another. On one side we have people saying not enough character development, then we go to another extreme were someone says the part was actually played to well, and by comparison, made the rest of the characters seem inferior. I agree that Leonard Nimoy was to Sentinel Prime what Heath Ledger was to the Joker. He was a stand out character, and in many ways did out shine the rest of the TF cast and very much made the movie. BUt i think that was part of the point. Not every character is always going to get the same treatment. I think extra focus was need on Sentinel to deliver the impact that he had. And the fact that Leonard Nimoy voice acted.. Just icing on the cake. IMO, no one could have played the part better. wether or not you like the character design (More human face and beard) is personal taste. To me it was a bit easier to relate his character to the general audience. One moment he seemed like a nobal believer of the autobot cause, next he was a traitor hell bent on enslaving the human race.
Exellent character. By far the best of the movieverse.

I think Liam Neeson should have voiced him. After all, he already has practice on the whole "Doing what needs to be done" from his part as Ra's Al Ghul in Batman Begins

Sentinel Prime's 'facial hair' is really nothing new. Scourge and his Sweeps and Wreck-Gar all sported the same thing. Of course, cartoon will render them different but I like the 'facial hair' on the live-action because that's what it would be like on robotic lifeforms. The dreads were rockin' too!
Leonard Nimoy did an excellent job as Sentinel Prime. I love the irony of his betrayal: to save the Cybertronians as a race but betraying his own ideals to do it. Perhaps Sentinel gave in to despair (you should read Thomas Covenant series by Steven R. Donaldson about actions resulting from despair) and it clouded his judgment. But his motives were noble.
Peter Cullen as always did an excellent job portraying the expressions of being betrayed on so many different levels. Sentinel was his mentor, friend, father figure. And it was all betrayed. I think Prime truly understands how to be compassionate and forgiving when situations call for it, but it gets put aside to do some nasty business. To save a race unfortunately requires the extermination of some. And Sentinel had to be removed inspite of his long-term goal.
It is my opinion that DOTM exceeds everything the first two movies tried to accomplish. Meshing together moments of seriousness and moments of tomfoolelry I think is a direct reflection of real life. Everyone goes through all those aspects to one embarrassing degree or another. And everyone goes through the tear-jerking heartbreaks as well.
Personally, whether there is a reboot of the series or a continuation, whoever steps into the director's chair has some big shoes to fill.

Just back from days off and geez! thanks much for all the replies and comments, folks! I’m actually feeling relieved now—I’ve had bizarre responses to movie characters and happenings before and was starting to think that my assessment of Sentinel Prime might fall into the ‘out to lunch/personal hangup’ category. And please, don’t ever mistake my whining about Leonard Nimoy’s unexpectedly serious and dramatic depiction of Sentinel as a genuine complaint. It’s really a massive compliment to the guy. After all, what actor WOULDN’T like to know that someone thinks he outperformed everyone else in a given movie? And did it just using his voice, for Pete’s sake!

I like Sentinel’s moustachioed face now, and in retrospect, wonder if the facial hair in of itself wasn’t something of an in-joke warning of his evil turn to come? I did catch the quick Trek reference in the movie, which was cute…maybe someone was having a bit of fun with Trek’s goatee equals evil bit too. It’s still a very organic looking robot face compared to those of some of the other Autobots though, don’t you think? Optimus’s for example…part of why I like his facial design is because it’s still at best just a mechanical approximation of a human face. I like the whirling machinery you glimpse inside his mouth when he speaks, the moving bits on his head…it’s all very expressive, but in a nicely alien way. Do Autobots develop a more sophisticated, greater ability to modify their external robot-mode appearance as they age? Might explain it… Of course the real answer is probably that the movie’s CGI character designers just wanted to make Leonard Nimoy happy by coming up with something that vaguely looked liked him, so…yeah…

One of the things I did over the weekend was read the novelization of Dark of the Moon. Nothing new, overall, but I’m convinced now: Sentinel Prime really is the first, true grey character the movieverse has come up with, one of those intriguing yet frustrating sorts who straddles the line between conventional good and evil and who’s impossible to neatly categorize. How do you even begin to describe him? Treacherous? Maniacal? A monumental traitor? Or just driven and desperate? Perhaps even…pitiable? Whatever he was and despite my liking for the character, I’m glad Optimus saw fit to play jury, judge and executioner and take him out at the end. No slave gig desired by THIS particular human, thank you!

Thanks again to all of you too. Biddybot out.

I think Leonard Nimoy is one of the best actors ever. He really pulled of Sentinel Prime really well.

Am I the only person who just didn't 'get' the betrayal? Sentinel and Optimus were supposedly not only comrades, but close friends. And the audience is supposed to believe that Sentinel would go behind Prime's back and betray everything that the Autobots stood for, thousands of years of fighting and essentially kill those whom he had counted as friends throughout the war, in the blink of an eye and without hardly any reasoning?

I just didn't connect with the movie in any way. For me, it was sequence after sequence of BOOM and POW.

Burn wrote:Yeah see, I can't agree with the comparison to LOTR.

Lord of the Rings was written, by what many consider, one of the great authors of history. His books sold before and continue to sell after the movies, and with The Hobbit around the corner, the interest in them will be there again.

Transformers was written by Hollywood writers. These are guys that will NEVER be regarded as literary authors.

So to you can't compare LOTR to Transformers, one is the adaption of books written by a great author, the other is written by a pair of two-bit over-rated hacks and a guy that probably won't do much else.

Not all novalizations are the best though. I left "Tales of the guardians" Almost in tears, because I read almost all of them. I was around book 7 or 8 when the movie finally came out. I was soooooo stoked! I wanted to watch it MORE than transformers! I left so disapointed at what they did to the story.....
Sorry, I bet I'm the only one here who even reads these. I'm on 15 right now... only because I don't want it to end.....