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Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby TulioDude » Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:36 pm

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So where do you guys think?We all know that Spielberg wanted to tell the story of a boy and his carand he done that.What shall be the next focus?So many possibilities.
What danger they shall face?
Will soundtrack sound completely different?

Lets discuss! :D
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby BeastProwl » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:29 pm

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Well, he went to school, first car, college, the job...
What now? A career? I don't think they can push the whole cycles of life and becoming a man thing any farther. Maybe show the wedding? Kids? I don't know, NOR do I want to know. What i want from the next film is for them to explain all the little plot holes and inconsistencies. Explain away Jolt and the twins and all that.

But they wont do that. They'll push the story on, leaving all the holes wide open, and un-filled.

As for a soundtrack? Well, I doubt linkin park will get their **** together any time soon, but the orchestral stuff by steve joblonsky can definitely stay.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby TulioDude » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:01 pm

Motto: "Never doubt the awesomess."
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BeastProwl wrote:Well, he went to school, first car, college, the job...
What now? A career? I don't think they can push the whole cycles of life and becoming a man thing any farther. Maybe show the wedding? Kids? I don't know, NOR do I want to know. What i want from the next film is for them to explain all the little plot holes and inconsistencies. Explain away Jolt and the twins and all that.


Shia wont returning to TF4.
The comics do explain what happen to Jolt and the twins,but i see what you're getting at.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:30 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:Explain away Jolt and the twins and all that.



Easy! They died! :D

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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby SlyTF1 » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:33 pm

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I want the main human to be a soldier, kind of like Lennox or Epps. Not some dumbass kid. I actually wouldn't mind a reboot. I kind of want Cybertron to still be alive and have kind of like two stories going on at the same time. Earth's story and whatever the hell is happening back on Cybertron, kind of like a lot of the later episodes of Animated.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Jul 30, 2012 5:50 pm

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The new film could be part of the Aligned continuity, if they wanted to do that :roll:
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby Capt.Failure » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:24 pm

I've been thinking about this recently and while I was against the idea in the past a reboot might be a good idea. Dark of the Moon was a good ending to the first trilogy of films and a fourth in the same continuity might be stretching it. That said, I would hope people react to a reboot in a rational, mature manor. We don't need more GEEWUNERS screaming about "removing the taint of Bay" or "returning Transfomers to the TRUE FANS!!!" :roll:
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby PrymeStriker » Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:09 pm

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Capt.Failure wrote:I've been thinking about this recently and while I was against the idea in the past a reboot might be a good idea. Dark of the Moon was a good ending to the first trilogy of films and a fourth in the same continuity might be stretching it. That said, I would hope people react to a reboot in a rational, mature manor. We don't need more GEEWUNERS screaming about "removing the taint of Bay" or "returning Transfomers to the TRUE FANS!!!" :roll:


Haha, I can't wait to see the confusion on semi-TF fans faces when there's a reboot that doesn't connect to the other 3 movies:

"Why is Ironhide still alive?"
"Optimus doesn't look like that!"
"Bumblebee luks divfrnt"
"WHO'S STARSCREAM!?!?!? I ONLY ReMeMbur that guy named Tronamegs!!!!"
"Who tha funk are these Thundercracker & Skywarp d00ds?"
"Who tha funk is Sunstreaker? THIS ALL MAKES NO SENSE! I QUIT TRANSFORMERS BECUZ BUMBLEBEE NO LUK THE SAME!"
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby BeastProwl » Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:43 am

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I know the comics tell you, but the movies do not. Id'e love to get my hands on the movie adaptation comics that explain everything. I have tales of the fallen and the rotf movie adaptation, not much else. I know they die, but they never say so on screen, witch kinda blows.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby Capt.Failure » Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:20 pm

PrimeStriker wrote:
Capt.Failure wrote:I've been thinking about this recently and while I was against the idea in the past a reboot might be a good idea. Dark of the Moon was a good ending to the first trilogy of films and a fourth in the same continuity might be stretching it. That said, I would hope people react to a reboot in a rational, mature manor. We don't need more GEEWUNERS screaming about "removing the taint of Bay" or "returning Transfomers to the TRUE FANS!!!" :roll:


Haha, I can't wait to see the confusion on semi-TF fans faces when there's a reboot that doesn't connect to the other 3 movies:

"Why is Ironhide still alive?"
"Optimus doesn't look like that!"
"Bumblebee luks divfrnt"
"WHO'S STARSCREAM!?!?!? I ONLY ReMeMbur that guy named Tronamegs!!!!"
"Who tha funk are these Thundercracker & Skywarp d00ds?"
"Who tha funk is Sunstreaker? THIS ALL MAKES NO SENSE! I QUIT TRANSFORMERS BECUZ BUMBLEBEE NO LUK THE SAME!"


Yeah with all the assorted continuities of Transformers at a rate of one per new series we long time fans are kind of used to it. Heck, long time fans forget too. Just look at reactions to new series from people who've been watching Transformers since the beginning. :BANG_HEAD:
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby BeastProwl » Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:39 am

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I never understood the GEEWUNNERS way of things. I mean, I watched G1, it was cool, it was fun. but it was SO far from being the best. I understand the nostalgia factor, I grew up with Beast Wars. Yet, once I started on the next TF series, I knew what was up, I didnt care if optimus was a truck or a monkey, I just knew that he was the leader of the good guys, and I liked him! He was couragious and he turned into a firetruck! Whats not to love?

Even when I was little, I knew that the transformers series were not all connected, and I was fine with the diversity, RiD Being my favorite series because of it, even to this day!

If they make the next movie a reboot, I say that people need to deal with it. Look at the new spiderman film. May not be in the same storyline, but its spiderman, no one really complained about it, did they? No one screamed "WERES DA EMO GUY!?"
no, they just sat down and watched the new spiderman. it was as simple as that.

And Transformers, IMO, would be no different. As long as Bumblebee is big and yellow, and hangs out with humans, the paople will love him. As long as Optimus is the big heroic leader, people will adore him for being as such. And as long as they stop throwing the story out the window with all the little inconsistancies and dick jokes, the fans will love it too!

I am yet to stumble upon a reason why a reboot would be a bad thing. The first three films ran their course, it's time for some new meat.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby Rodimus Prime » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:47 am

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I wouldn't mind a continuation, with Lennox being the main character. Perhaps the story could be he and Optimus becoming really good friends, and then bring in the Powermaster concept from the comics, where humans try to kill the transformers in some way, and Lennox would have to become Prime's Powermaster. But that might be a stretch for general audiences. I also want it revealed that even though Prime ripped out his spinal cord, Megatron is being secretly kept alive by the government, unbeknownst to Optimus. Just cerebral casing and spinal cord. (If you've seen RoboCop 2, the same they did with Cain.)
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:07 am

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You really think they would make the same mistake twice?
I think it would be cool if they made gaurdians for earth, reverse engineered from megatron's remains, and the autobots had to fight off a machine uprising. But I doubt it would go that route.

Really, there isnt a whole lot they can provide, seeing as how all the main bad guys are dead.

Unless the autobots dump the bodies into space were they are intercepted by minions of unicron, and resurected or some jazz, I think this trilogy is done.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby TulioDude » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:31 pm

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PrimeStriker wrote:The new film could be part of the Aligned continuity, if they wanted to do that :roll:

That would confuse the heck out of the audiences.Beisdes,there is Transformers Prime,the games and the aligned novels.
PrimeStriker wrote:Haha, I can't wait to see the confusion on semi-TF fans faces when there's a reboot that doesn't connect to the other 3 movies

I dont want to get technical,but they can be called Transformers fans,even if they only watchted the live-action movies.
BeastProwl wrote:I know the comics tell you, but the movies do not. Id'e love to get my hands on the movie adaptation comics that explain everything. I have tales of the fallen and the rotf movie adaptation, not much else. I know they die, but they never say so on screen, witch kinda blows.

Knowing that theres is a crowd that has blind hate for them,even if they appeared to say "Hi" people would rage.

Personally, i dont want a reboot for the sake of a reboot.I mean,the Spider-Man franchise only rebooted because people didnt agree what they should do.I'm sure they can tell a story.Who would say that The Fallen was gonna appear in the movie?I didn't expect Sentinel Prime to be there.So i know they can do it.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Aug 03, 2012 12:51 pm

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TulioDude wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:The new film could be part of the Aligned continuity, if they wanted to do that :roll:

That would confuse the heck out of the audiences.Beisdes,there is Transformers Prime,the games and the aligned novels.
PrimeStriker wrote:Haha, I can't wait to see the confusion on semi-TF fans faces when there's a reboot that doesn't connect to the other 3 movies

I dont want to get technical,but they can be called Transformers fans,even if they only watchted the live-action movies.


In an interview with Jeff Kline at Botcon 2011, he said they had discussed doing a theatrical film for Prime (source)

Yes, they can. But if they don't know anything about there being any other series, they would be very confused if there was a reboot.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Aug 03, 2012 1:18 pm

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Now that would be cool! A live action season finale for prime as the next TF movie. What do you think?
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:34 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:Now that would be cool! A live action season finale for prime as the next TF movie. What do you think?


No, not as a Season finale! No No No!!!!!!

SERIES finale! :D
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby BeastProwl » Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:53 pm

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PrimeStriker wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:Now that would be cool! A live action season finale for prime as the next TF movie. What do you think?


No, not as a Season finale! No No No!!!!!!

SERIES finale! :D

Are you secretly Shia Labeouf? :lol:
But I agree!
Of course, with the "Aligned Continuity" That would be like, 15 years from now :shock:
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby TulioDude » Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:46 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:Now that would be cool! A live action season finale for prime as the next TF movie. What do you think?

No.
PrimeStriker wrote:Yes, they can. But if they don't know anything about there being any other series, they would be very confused if there was a reboot.


That's why i think its to early to make a reboot.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby PrymeStriker » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:05 pm

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BeastProwl wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:Now that would be cool! A live action season finale for prime as the next TF movie. What do you think?


No, not as a Season finale! No No No!!!!!!

SERIES finale! :D

Are you secretly Shia Labeouf? :lol:
But I agree!
Of course, with the "Aligned Continuity" That would be like, 15 years from now :shock:


Personally, as long as they keep originality and keep it exciting, I don't care if Prime is a 15-year-long series.

However, the Aligned Continuity was launched "with the intention of being the foundation of most Transformers projects for the decade to come."

So, if they're very specific on the point of decade, they're probably going to end their Aligned continuity projects in or by 2020 (as the Aligned Continuity began in 2010), which comes in 8 years.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby TulioDude » Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:47 pm

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I don't thik we will see an Decepticon inavsion again.(At least not for the next movie.)
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:06 pm

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Humans vs Autobots would be a likely scenario.

Lots of other things could happen after the fallout of DOTM. Rogue Cons might ally themselves with human terrorists, Sector Seven might be revived (without Simmons) to continue research on Cybertronians, and thus threaten Autobot lives.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby YRQRM0 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 12:31 am

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BeastProwl wrote:
PrimeStriker wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:Now that would be cool! A live action season finale for prime as the next TF movie. What do you think?


No, not as a Season finale! No No No!!!!!!

SERIES finale! :D

Are you secretly Shia Labeouf? :lol:
But I agree!
Of course, with the "Aligned Continuity" That would be like, 15 years from now :shock:


Personally, as long as they keep originality and keep it exciting, I don't care if Prime is a 15-year-long series.

However, the Aligned Continuity was launched "with the intention of being the foundation of most Transformers projects for the decade to come."

So, if they're very specific on the point of decade, they're probably going to end their Aligned continuity projects in or by 2020 (as the Aligned Continuity began in 2010), which comes in 8 years.


Oh man, if done right, that would just ROCK! Of course, I imagine that there would be a lot at play at the end, seeing here in 2012 we've got 5 factions fighting against each other (or we did at least). But the idea of Prime ending with a live movie intrigues me. I wouldn't even mind seeing a prequel to Prime, since the bots were already on Earth and set up with the government (idk how much of that is covered in other works).

But anyways, as far as TF4 goes, I want a reboot. You can only revive the bad guys so many times, and I don't like a lot of the character potrayals and deaths already. The whole "Boy and his car" (or better yet, boy and his robot) could've been much better. I think they should go with a little kid, and give it the same kind of appeal as Iron Giant or Super 8, or the TV shows for that matter. You can still have great humor without the vulgarity, and as long as there's no blood gushing I don't think there's a problem with the same awesome slo-mo shots we're now used to. It would appeal to a larger audience I think.
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Re: Lets discuss this change of direction

Postby TulioDude » Tue Aug 21, 2012 5:48 pm

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So lets at what we know so far.

-Michael and Steven Spielberg will be returning. 8)

-They're ''looking at a new direction''. :-?

-They may have redesigns. :-?

-Maybe they will go to space? 8) :BOT:

-Ehren Kruger will be returning(?)

-The cast from previus films will not be returning. :-?

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TulioDude wrote:I don't thik we will see an Decepticon inavsion again.(At least not for the next movie.)


Humans vs Autobots would be a likely scenario.

Lots of other things could happen after the fallout of DOTM. Rogue Cons might ally themselves with human terrorists, Sector Seven might be revived (without Simmons) to continue research on Cybertronians, and thus threaten Autobot lives.


I was just thinking about that.
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