qwailo wrote:Daxmajor wrote:qwailo wrote:Daxmajor wrote:Bonger wrote:qwailo wrote:Bonger wrote:Too bad, going the body armour route will put him all types of out of proportion with the rest of the MP line. If they do UM for real, they need to start from scratch and put him in scale.
Out of proportion? How? Do you mean because hes bigger? Because he is supposed to be.
He is in now way supposed to Tower over Prime, or is my memory failing me?
I agree with Bonger. UM (in armor) was really the same height, maybe slightly taller, than Optimus and the other Leader-type guys. It's no different to how Motormaster's entire truck mode (cab + trailor) form a robot that's the same height as Optimus.
No no, magnus was always bigger. Just because Prime is the leader doesn't mean hes the biggest...look at Skyfire (Jetfire) for example. UM was a big mo-fo, lets keep it that way.
Sky/Jetfire was certainly bigger than Prime and Megs, as was Omega Supreme -- I'll never argue against that. UM OTOH was simply bulkier than Optimus, not taller e.g. watch the Prime death scene in the animated Movie (where he gives the Matrix to Magnus) and then çome back to me.
Your a muppet. How can you tell the height between them in that scene? ONE OF THEM IS LAYING DOWN ON A BED! And Magnus is bending over most of the time. Trust me! UM is bigger than prime in everyway.
Besides, you can't judge characters sizes by the animation because back then the animators didn't give a ****. In episode 9 Bumblebee is fighting Ravage and they are the same size. Then in Megatrons Master Plan Ravage is only a little bigger than a human.
I'll conclude with the fact that in Alt mode, Prime and Magnus are the same size with trailers. However in robot mode Prime doesn't combine with his trailer...where as UM does! Therefore making him bigger by far.
There...i win.
It doesn't matter what you wrote. You loose because:
1. You went down to name calling (who calls someone a 'muppet' anyway?)
2. You misspelled 'You're'. If you're going to flame, it should be free of spelling mistakes. Like splitting aces, it's a rule.
(The thing is, I agree with you. I think Ultra Magnus is bigger than Prime to a certain degree. It only makes sense. The added bulk of the armor almost demands it. You can't really argue scale in G1 when Metroplex is changing size every other scene.
But standards of argument apply, even to Transformers. The first to call names is likely the one who can't really back his argument. Maybe it's a UK thing...and I'm not picking on the country or anything. But I tend to see a lot of Brits hurl an insult in the middle of an otherwise decent debate when I wouldn't have expected it.
However, I digress.)