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Autobot032 wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Autobot032 wrote: Actually, this isn't quite correct. You could use the f-word once per film, in PG, in the '80s. Notable examples: Beetlejuice, BIG.

BIG was the game changer. When the boy used it, it made the MPAA crack down. That, along with a few other things made them change their minds.

One use, no matter the connotation behind it, will automatically net you a PG-13.

You may use up to three of them in a PG-13, as long as they're spaced out and without a sexual connotation. The instant it becomes sexual, it's automatically R.

Looks like you got me on a technicality, because i was thinking of beetle juice when i was typing my past post. Good Eye. But regardless, it wasn't the F-bomb that recieved iDOTM it's PG-13 rating since it wasn't used in the theater version.

BUt it sems that the MPAA comitte can in fact over rule this if they feel it nessasary. BUt it seems they do that more with the transition between PG-13 and R ratings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic ... ing_system

They certainly can. Which is kinda messed up. I've seen movies that clearly needed a much heavier rating and ones that weren't even close to a PG-13 but got it anyway.

The ratings system needs a massive overhaul, with public input to help them pin down exactly what goes where.

I agree with that, I don't understand how a few words or nudity is considered worse than horrific violence. What were the Indiana Jones movies rated? PG or PG-13, yet they have peoples faces being melted off, heads exploding, hearts getting ripped out, and people being burned alive. I think that's the kind of stuff they should be concerned with, not a few harmless words or body parts.

Evil_the_Nub wrote: I agree with that, I don't understand how a few words or nudity is considered worse than horrific violence. What were the Indiana Jones movies rated? PG or PG-13, yet they have peoples faces being melted off, heads exploding, hearts getting ripped out, and people being burned alive. I think that's the kind of stuff they should be concerned with, not a few harmless words or body parts.

yes, Inianna Jones movies were rated PG. And it was those movies that were part of the creation of the PG-13 rating in general since so many parents created an uproar of the violence and gore.

I don't care if they say f*ck or not. I think it is stupid they would add that to the dvd release, but I don't think its a big deal. Spike said sh*t in the '86 movie.

GEEWUN wrote:I don't care if they say f*ck or not. I think it is stupid they would add that to the dvd release, but I don't think its a big deal. Spike said sh*t in the '86 movie.

And that was stupid too.

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Autobot032 wrote: Actually, this isn't quite correct. You could use the f-word once per film, in PG, in the '80s. Notable examples: Beetlejuice, BIG.

BIG was the game changer. When the boy used it, it made the MPAA crack down. That, along with a few other things made them change their minds.

One use, no matter the connotation behind it, will automatically net you a PG-13.

You may use up to three of them in a PG-13, as long as they're spaced out and without a sexual connotation. The instant it becomes sexual, it's automatically R.

Looks like you got me on a technicality, because i was thinking of beetle juice when i was typing my past post. Good Eye. But regardless, it wasn't the F-bomb that recieved iDOTM it's PG-13 rating since it wasn't used in the theater version.

BUt it sems that the MPAA comitte can in fact over rule this if they feel it nessasary. BUt it seems they do that more with the transition between PG-13 and R ratings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic ... ing_system

They certainly can. Which is kinda messed up. I've seen movies that clearly needed a much heavier rating and ones that weren't even close to a PG-13 but got it anyway.

The ratings system needs a massive overhaul, with public input to help them pin down exactly what goes where.

I agree with that, I don't understand how a few words or nudity is considered worse than horrific violence. What were the Indiana Jones movies rated? PG or PG-13, yet they have peoples faces being melted off, heads exploding, hearts getting ripped out, and people being burned alive. I think that's the kind of stuff they should be concerned with, not a few harmless words or body parts.

Holy damn! I didn't know they allowed such violence in PS/PG-13 movies! I remember how in the Star Wars original trillogy, people got limbs cut off all the time and they where only PG. I always wondered why.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Evil_the_Nub wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:

5150 Cruiser wrote:

Autobot032 wrote: Actually, this isn't quite correct. You could use the f-word once per film, in PG, in the '80s. Notable examples: Beetlejuice, BIG.

BIG was the game changer. When the boy used it, it made the MPAA crack down. That, along with a few other things made them change their minds.

One use, no matter the connotation behind it, will automatically net you a PG-13.

You may use up to three of them in a PG-13, as long as they're spaced out and without a sexual connotation. The instant it becomes sexual, it's automatically R.

Looks like you got me on a technicality, because i was thinking of beetle juice when i was typing my past post. Good Eye. But regardless, it wasn't the F-bomb that recieved iDOTM it's PG-13 rating since it wasn't used in the theater version.

BUt it sems that the MPAA comitte can in fact over rule this if they feel it nessasary. BUt it seems they do that more with the transition between PG-13 and R ratings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_Pic ... ing_system

They certainly can. Which is kinda messed up. I've seen movies that clearly needed a much heavier rating and ones that weren't even close to a PG-13 but got it anyway.

The ratings system needs a massive overhaul, with public input to help them pin down exactly what goes where.

I agree with that, I don't understand how a few words or nudity is considered worse than horrific violence. What were the Indiana Jones movies rated? PG or PG-13, yet they have peoples faces being melted off, heads exploding, hearts getting ripped out, and people being burned alive. I think that's the kind of stuff they should be concerned with, not a few harmless words or body parts.

Holy damn! I didn't know they allowed such violence in PS/PG-13 movies! I remember how in the Star Wars original trillogy, people got limbs cut off all the time and they where only PG. I always wondered why.

You could actually get away with quite a bit in that time frame. ('75-'85) Gremlins is another movie that pushed audiences and the MPAA to their limit. Cited too much gore and they were right. Spielberg didn't fight 'em on it, in fact, he spoke to Jack Valenti, personally and helped him create PG-13.

Oddly enough, Gremlins has never been recertified. Though it should be. If it returns to theaters as a lead in for the rumored sequel/reboot, it'll most likely need to be recertified and grab a PG-13.

Once PG-13 came along, the directors tried to push limits, but not at first. It took time for them to go really taboo. Today? Taboo is normal. The f-bomb in a TF movie would've never gotten through in an earlier time frame. The board is much more lax than they once were.

To be fair, it was a time of major change. The '60s were free love and nobody cared much. The '70s were decadence and over indulgence and dealt some odd and twisted blows to cinemas. The '80s were about greed, anger and violence and it was reflected in the films that were made.

Now, we're desensitized somewhat. We don't even flinch on most things.

I agree with most people on here- I think it was stupid and can't think of any other reason to include it other than shock-value.

I sat down the other night with my wife so she could finally see it and not only did I catch the f-bomb Shia mouths at the beginning in the president's office (thank you subtitles) but when Bruce says the line I cringed. It took an otherwise pretty clean movie (compared to the first two) and gave it something to cringe at every time I watch it now. I guess I can always mute it but I always won't be there when and if my daughter wants to watch it some day.

As a Christian the cursing was already bad enough now I have to worry about not one, not two, but THREE f-bombs (if you count Brains' use). I just wish they could make a Transformers film that was completely devoid of curse words and sexual innuendos etc. At least make it family-friendly.

This is a rather pointless change, but although it's not exactly a family-friendly movie already, I would've probably preferred that they have kept it the same. I don't hate all swearing, but I don't like pointless swearing like that. Still, I find it ridiculous how the MPAA ratings system automatically makes movies with a certain number of F-bombs have higher ratings. Take [i]The King's Speech{/i]. It's got purely PG material aside from the two scenes when he says lots of swear words, half of them British ones. None of them are used sexually, and it's important to the plot. It's ridiculous that it was rated R. It should've at least gotten a PG-13.

Sabrblade wrote::BANG_HEAD:

This movie just lost a bunch of brownie points with me.

There is NO point to making such a change!

And why would they bother to make such a meaningless change when they could have better spent their assets elsewhere if they were making changes? Throwing in one more F-Bomb is just stupid.

Agreed...I mean...why?

I would've much rather them add that Optimus vs ShockWave scene in that Burger King commercial...

I personlly found it funny as hell, I mean How else would you be expected to react when seeing a 16 foot tall yellow robot for the first time?

Blackmoon wrote:I personlly found it funny as hell, I mean How else would you be expected to react when seeing a 16 foot tall yellow robot for the first time?

Any number of ways that don't require an F-bomb. F-bombs are retarded.

Sabrblade wrote:

Blackmoon wrote:I personlly found it funny as hell, I mean How else would you be expected to react when seeing a 16 foot tall yellow robot for the first time?

Any number of ways that don't require an F-bomb. F-bombs are retarded.

A and Greed

Blackmoon wrote:I personlly found it funny as hell, I mean How else would you be expected to react when seeing a 16 foot tall yellow robot for the first time?

This.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Blackmoon wrote:I personlly found it funny as hell, I mean How else would you be expected to react when seeing a 16 foot tall yellow robot for the first time?

This.

That's pathetic.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Blackmoon wrote:I personlly found it funny as hell, I mean How else would you be expected to react when seeing a 16 foot tall yellow robot for the first time?

This.

That's pathetic.

Exactly. If anything, I might actually mess my pants or have a massive panic attack or even faint. You don't see that kind of crap everyday and when you do for the first time...well...

Autobot032 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Blackmoon wrote:I personlly found it funny as hell, I mean How else would you be expected to react when seeing a 16 foot tall yellow robot for the first time?

This.

That's pathetic.

Exactly. If anything, I might actually mess my pants or have a massive panic attack or even faint. You don't see that kind of crap everyday and when you do for the first time...well...

I'd be so freaking excited. Then I'd ask to see Megatron so I can join him and the noble Decepticon cause...

SlyTF1 wrote:I'd be so freaking excited. Then I'd ask to see Megatron so I can join him and the noble Decepticon cause...

And then Megs would stomp on you and everyone else just for being a puny fleshling insect; an act which is no different than how humans casually step on ants.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'd be so freaking excited. Then I'd ask to see Megatron so I can join him and the noble Decepticon cause...

And then Megs would stomp on you and everyone else just for being a puny fleshling insect; an act which is no different than how humans casually step on ants.

I wouldn't blame him.

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'd be so freaking excited. Then I'd ask to see Megatron so I can join him and the noble Decepticon cause...

And then Megs would stomp on you and everyone else just for being a puny fleshling insect; an act which is no different than how humans casually step on ants.

I wouldn't blame him.

What?! Are you saying you want to die?

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'd be so freaking excited. Then I'd ask to see Megatron so I can join him and the noble Decepticon cause...

And then Megs would stomp on you and everyone else just for being a puny fleshling insect; an act which is no different than how humans casually step on ants.

I wouldn't blame him.

What?! Are you saying you want to die?

That's just creepy o_o

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:I'd be so freaking excited. Then I'd ask to see Megatron so I can join him and the noble Decepticon cause...

And then Megs would stomp on you and everyone else just for being a puny fleshling insect; an act which is no different than how humans casually step on ants.

I wouldn't blame him.

What?! Are you saying you want to die?

Not really, but if Megatron killed me, then I'd have something to brag about.

SlyTF1 wrote:Not really, but if Megatron killed me, then I'd have something to brag about.

1. You're dead. You are incapable of bragging, much less living.

2. Being murdered is nothing to brag about. Death is no joking matter.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Not really, but if Megatron killed me, then I'd have something to brag about.

1. You're dead. You are incapable of bragging, much less living.

2. Being murdered is nothing to brag about. Death is no joking matter.

Just ignore him. He's not someone you can reason with.

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Not really, but if Megatron killed me, then I'd have something to brag about.

1. You're dead. You are incapable of bragging, much less living.

2. Being murdered is nothing to brag about. Death is no joking matter.

Sly's a good kid and most likely doesn't mean what he's saying. He doesn't seem to "get" it. Lately, he's been a bit more... off the rails.

Autobot032 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

SlyTF1 wrote:Not really, but if Megatron killed me, then I'd have something to brag about.

1. You're dead. You are incapable of bragging, much less living.

2. Being murdered is nothing to brag about. Death is no joking matter.

Sly's a good kid and most likely doesn't mean what he's saying. He doesn't seem to "get" it. Lately, he's been a bit more... off the rails.

Lately?