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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:30 pm

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So what is everyone's fav Valk type? I still have to say the YF/VF-19 is my favorite.


Do you remember mine? Here's a hint there's a group shot in the old thread. Can we reopen it?


Wa-Pow! http://www.seibertron.com/energonpub/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=118&p=594#p594

Looks like most of my galleries are still there. lol I haven't used that photo service in a long time., so long I can't remember which one I used.


The thread is still locked, anyway to unlock it so we can use that instead of this new thread? We were supposed to have a new SC TV series years ago, instead we just get SC released on DVD over and over.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Supreme Convoy » Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:22 pm

Years ago, I saw the first VHS Robotech and forgot most of the details. I watched the first episode on Netflix's Watch Instantly.

I love the robot designs and it's one of those nerd pop culture icons that I don't know much about. I may have to watch the rest.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Jesterhead » Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:27 am

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Well I bit the bullet and ordered the SC Maia Alpha. I'll post my feelings (and hopefully not disappointment) on it when I ship my POL. I'm pretty nervous to see the QC on it :-( :lol:

Back to Macross, has anyone seen the second Frontier movie yet? I can't wait for it's DVD release!

Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:30 pm

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Jesterhead wrote:Well I bit the bullet and ordered the SC Maia Alpha. I'll post my feelings (and hopefully not disappointment) on it when I ship my POL. I'm pretty nervous to see the QC on it :-( :lol:

Back to Macross, has anyone seen the second Frontier movie yet? I can't wait for it's DVD release!

Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!


I'd check it out but there's so much main line stuff out that I want first.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Editor » Mon Jul 18, 2011 10:45 pm

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Air Commander Starscream wrote:He showed us that they are working on a second Shadow Chronicle as well as something new altogether. He also confirmed that the Robotech Live Action Movie is still alive and in the works.


Both Tommy and Kevin (who not only runs great panels at cons, but is just a great guy to hang with) have been issuing the same statements since 2008, I've seen a number and 75% of one years panel is word for word from the year before.

The long and the short of it is that Shadow Chronicles did well enough to warrant the 2nd volume which was effectively green lit and then put immediately on hold once they had a decent live-action proposal on the table. As long as the Live movie is still viable, we'll be waiting for SC2. We are not going to see anything further for SC until the movie leaves the pre-production stage for either actual filming or the trash bin.

Either way, by the time we have a set date for SC2, another entire Macross series could be announced, debuted, had a full TV run, and put out on DVD.

I still get a kick that fans in japan fan-subbed Shadow Chronicles as a GC Mospeda sequel.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:13 pm

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Editor wrote:
Air Commander Starscream wrote:He showed us that they are working on a second Shadow Chronicle as well as something new altogether. He also confirmed that the Robotech Live Action Movie is still alive and in the works.


Both Tommy and Kevin (who not only runs great panels at cons, but is just a great guy to hang with) have been issuing the same statements since 2008, I've seen a number and 75% of one years panel is word for word from the year before.

The long and the short of it is that Shadow Chronicles did well enough to warrant the 2nd volume which was effectively green lit and then put immediately on hold once they had a decent live-action proposal on the table. As long as the Live movie is still viable, we'll be waiting for SC2. We are not going to see anything further for SC until the movie leaves the pre-production stage for either actual filming or the trash bin.

Either way, by the time we have a set date for SC2, another entire Macross series could be announced, debuted, had a full TV run, and put out on DVD.

I still get a kick that fans in japan fan-subbed Shadow Chronicles as a GC Mospeda sequel.


I didn't know they did that. Forget a SC movie, we were supposed to get a cartoon. From what I gather fans want more stories from the Macross Saga. That was the most successful of the Robotech saga and in my opinion the best. I also have a grudge against Toynami and HG now over the crap they pulled forcing sites to drop Yammato Mechs.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Editor » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:39 pm

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Chuck, the movie is for the original Macross story, or at least partly based on, not Shadows.

5 gets you ten, regardless of what they call it here, it will be marketed in Japan as Macross regardless.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Jesterhead » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:16 am

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Editor wrote:Chuck, the movie is for the original Macross story, or at least partly based on, not Shadows.


That upsets me.

I was a Macross fan before I gave Robotech a shot. I refuse to accept that the Macross Saga exists in Robotech. Southern Cross and Mospeada only! [-(
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:41 pm

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Editor wrote:Chuck, the movie is for the original Macross story, or at least partly based on, not Shadows.

5 gets you ten, regardless of what they call it here, it will be marketed in Japan as Macross regardless.


I know about the live action movie. I was saying that even now people want new stories about Rick, Roy Max, Mila, and the big guy. Heck SC really only follows Scott Bernard, what happened to the rest of his crew?
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Editor » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:17 pm

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The quick and dirty answer is that for what Harmony Gold wants to do with SC, the rest of the Irregulars simply don't factor in. Much the way they were written for End of the Circle.

Lancer would go back to entertaining people and act as a beacon of hope.
Lunk and Annie would go live their lives.
Rook and Rand while the easiest to write in, would get lost in the shuffle against trained REF members.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Air Commander Starscream » Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:24 pm

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Jesterhead wrote:Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!


I really didnt need to read that...now I might have to go check out HLJ..... :-?

As for the whole Robotech live action movie, I know it has been in talks for a very long time much like the Voltron Movie. But I will remain hopeful and it dosent bother me too much that it will be a straight up reboot.

I like both Robotech and Macross, but I tend to like Macross more as it continues the main "Macross" designs and story with Plus, Seven and Frontier. I enjoyed Southern Cross and the New Generation with Robotech, but it is still 2 seperate shows getting tweaked for the whole "Robotech Saga". I still havent even seen Shadow Chronicles yet, I need to get it on Blu Ray and watch it.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:20 pm

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Jesterhead wrote:Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!


I really didnt need to read that...now I might have to go check out HLJ..... :-?

As for the whole Robotech live action movie, I know it has been in talks for a very long time much like the Voltron Movie. But I will remain hopeful and it dosent bother me too much that it will be a straight up reboot.

I like both Robotech and Macross, but I tend to like Macross more as it continues the main "Macross" designs and story with Plus, Seven and Frontier. I enjoyed Southern Cross and the New Generation with Robotech, but it is still 2 seperate shows getting tweaked for the whole "Robotech Saga". I still havent even seen Shadow Chronicles yet, I need to get it on Blu Ray and watch it.


Well the Voltron movie was confirmed tonight as well as a new release of the complete Robotech saga on DVD.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Air Commander Starscream » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:21 am

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Jesterhead wrote:Also, HLJ has clearance one their Yamato stuff. Millia's VF-22 for about 100 USD!


I really didnt need to read that...now I might have to go check out HLJ..... :-?

As for the whole Robotech live action movie, I know it has been in talks for a very long time much like the Voltron Movie. But I will remain hopeful and it dosent bother me too much that it will be a straight up reboot.

I like both Robotech and Macross, but I tend to like Macross more as it continues the main "Macross" designs and story with Plus, Seven and Frontier. I enjoyed Southern Cross and the New Generation with Robotech, but it is still 2 seperate shows getting tweaked for the whole "Robotech Saga". I still havent even seen Shadow Chronicles yet, I need to get it on Blu Ray and watch it.


Well the Voltron movie was confirmed tonight as well as a new release of the complete Robotech saga on DVD.


Because we can never have enough sets of the Robotech Saga! =;
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Jesterhead » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:03 am

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Air Commander Starscream wrote:Because we can never have enough sets of the Robotech Saga! =;


So what are the folks running Robotech at HG even doing now-a-days? They keep saying how they are working on new projects, shows, live action movies. Seems like they are trying to desperately keep the Robotech name in the news and still relevant.

I'd be fine without a second SC movie, I just want that damn SC Beta toy with the syncro-cannon! :evil:
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:04 pm

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Air Commander Starscream wrote:Because we can never have enough sets of the Robotech Saga! =;


So what are the folks running Robotech at HG even doing now-a-days? They keep saying how they are working on new projects, shows, live action movies. Seems like they are trying to desperately keep the Robotech name in the news and still relevant.

I'd be fine without a second SC movie, I just want that damn SC Beta toy with the syncro-cannon! :evil:


A FREAKIN MEN! They keep re-releasing Shadow Chronicles and the like. The new Robotech set is nice since some people never got it (me) but still. Bring over the other Macross series' and work them in.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Biddybot » Sun Jul 24, 2011 9:52 am

Would one of you Macross toy experts be able to tell me a little bit about this Macross Valkyrie import I bought back in the mid-80s? I tossed the box long ago, but did hang onto the instructions...the only English on the sheet is in the two logos, something stomething MACROSS and BANDAI something, and the four-line header, which reads SUPER REAL TYPE 1/55 DIE-CAST/PLASTIC SCALE MODEL STRIKE VALKYRIE VF-1S. Is this one of the Valkyries that doubles as the Transformer character Skyfire? (Something else I didn't know about until quite recently, sigh...)

Thanks in advance if anyone can help out.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Sun Jul 24, 2011 7:35 pm

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Biddybot wrote:Would one of you Macross toy experts be able to tell me a little bit about this Macross Valkyrie import I bought back in the mid-80s? I tossed the box long ago, but did hang onto the instructions...the only English on the sheet is in the two logos, something stomething MACROSS and BANDAI something, and the four-line header, which reads SUPER REAL TYPE 1/55 DIE-CAST/PLASTIC SCALE MODEL STRIKE VALKYRIE VF-1S. Is this one of the Valkyries that doubles as the Transformer character Skyfire? (Something else I didn't know about until quite recently, sigh...)

Thanks in advance if anyone can help out.


Without seeing it I'm not sure. The VF-1S was the mold used for Jetfire but it was the Hikaru version from the movie DYRL and the Fast Packs were painted differently.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Air Commander Starscream » Tue Jul 26, 2011 2:30 am

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Biddybot wrote:Would one of you Macross toy experts be able to tell me a little bit about this Macross Valkyrie import I bought back in the mid-80s? I tossed the box long ago, but did hang onto the instructions...the only English on the sheet is in the two logos, something stomething MACROSS and BANDAI something, and the four-line header, which reads SUPER REAL TYPE 1/55 DIE-CAST/PLASTIC SCALE MODEL STRIKE VALKYRIE VF-1S. Is this one of the Valkyries that doubles as the Transformer character Skyfire? (Something else I didn't know about until quite recently, sigh...)

Thanks in advance if anyone can help out.


Without seeing it I'm not sure. The VF-1S was the mold used for Jetfire but it was the Hikaru version from the movie DYRL and the Fast Packs were painted differently.



Also in laymen terms. The Hikaru version of the VF-1S was white with red and black accents. There was also the Roy Fokker version of the VF-1S that was white with Yellow and black accents. ;)

Heres a link http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/reminator2/HTML/robotech/supervf1s.htm for the Bandai 1/55th scale Die Cast Valk that was also imported as Jetfire. At the bottom of the website they talk about some of the mold differences Hasbro did.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Biddybot » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:33 am

Hi again. Finally back and found a little time at work (don’t have a home computer) to research my Valkyrie using the info you provided as a starting point and it looks like what I’ve got is the black/red Hikaru version that was released in 1984…huh! Hard to believe how expensive this toy has gotten for collecting, too. I remember buying it at the Silver Snail shop in Toronto for something like $39.95, certainly under $50, and it was the more expensive of the two models the shop had available at the time!

As for my fellow, I’ve kept him out in the open, usually high up on a shelf, ever since I brought him home (sacrilege, I know!), always in either gerwalk or jet mode, and as toys go, I think it’s weathered pretty well. Nothing broken, everything’s still tight, and he still transforms nicely. Most of the white has faded to a pale tan colour except—oddly enough—for the two inside panels of the lower ‘legs’, which are still as white as ever. Rest of the colouring and markings are still the same. Biggest difference I note between this old toy (and he’s sitting on my desk as I type this, by the way!) and some of the newer stuff I’ve got is how much heavier he is by comparison, also you can see a heck of a lot more actual metal and that he’s held together primarily by sizable Phillips-head screws. I’ve never had the guts to test whether you could actually unscrew him down to his component parts…I’m not very good at transforming toys, let alone putting stripped-down pieces of them back together.

So, a Macross Valkyrie for sure, and MAYBE a Transformers wannabe that didn’t quite make the conversion…that sound about right? (And maybe I ought to now go out and get one of those new DOTM Starscream figures I saw kicking around the toy shelves recently. He looked about the exact right size to pair against my Valkyrie, now that I think about it, and you can be sure I’d pose the Valkyrie as kicking Starscream’s Raptor butt if I did get him, heh! ;) )

Thanks again for your help. Cheers!
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Jesterhead » Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:10 pm

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Well I got my Toynami Maia Sterling Alpha fighter...

I was pretty terrified to open the box, and was expect the worst QC I've ever seen.

With some fidgeting, I managed to get the fighter looking straight, with all the panels and parts lined up. The plastic feels cheap though, as does the paint. Haven't transformed it yet though... >:oP

Overall, I'm happy with the purchase.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:12 pm

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Jesterhead wrote:Well I got my Toynami Maia Sterling Alpha fighter...

I was pretty terrified to open the box, and was expect the worst QC I've ever seen.

With some fidgeting, I managed to get the fighter looking straight, with all the panels and parts lined up. The plastic feels cheap though, as does the paint. Haven't transformed it yet though... >:oP

Overall, I'm happy with the purchase.


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Re: Macross/Robotech

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Re: Macross/Robotech

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Another thread I'm dusting off.

With upcoming products like Arcadia's YF-19 and re-releases of Yamato Valks, as well as Bandai's fairly regularly released DX Chogokin Macross toys, this is as good a time as any to get some discussion going again on Macross products.

The latest news I've come across is that Bandai is releasing a Super Parts pack for the DX VF-25A and I think that pricing and pre-order begin date will be announced at Tamashii Nations 2013.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby chuckdawg1999 » Wed Oct 23, 2013 11:21 pm

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Convotron wrote:Another thread I'm dusting off.

With upcoming products like Arcadia's YF-19 and re-releases of Yamato Valks, as well as Bandai's fairly regularly released DX Chogokin Macross toys, this is as good a time as any to get some discussion going again on Macross products.

The latest news I've come across is that Bandai is releasing a Super Parts pack for the DX VF-25A and I think that pricing and pre-order begin date will be announced at Tamashii Nations 2013.


I was told Yamato went out of business.

The last Macross series I heard of was Frontiers and that the toys were crap at first before Bandai did second runs. I also heard that the main Valk from that series was one of the last releases in the SOC line before it went on hiatus.

I have not bought a Macross item since the 1/100 Super/Strike VF-1S which is the best version of the VF-1S in that scale.
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Re: Macross/Robotech

Postby Convotron » Thu Oct 24, 2013 9:25 am

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chuckdawg1999 wrote:I was told Yamato went out of business.

The last Macross series I heard of was Frontiers and that the toys were crap at first before Bandai did second runs. I also heard that the main Valk from that series was one of the last releases in the SOC line before it went on hiatus.

I have not bought a Macross item since the 1/100 Super/Strike VF-1S which is the best version of the VF-1S in that scale.


Yes, Yamato is no more. As I understand it, Arcadia is made up of a significant portion of ex-Yamato employees. Arcadia has bought up some of the molds and designs that were Yamato's and they are now moving forward with producing high end toys of Macross designs.

The 1/60 version 2 VF-1J in 30th anniversary deco was released several weeks ago by Arcadia. I believe next up in November is the VF-1S in Roy Fokker deco, Do You Remember Love, aka movie version. The VF-1S in Hikaru's deco is due in December.

Then in April 2014, Arcadia is releasing what is essentially a version 2 of the YF-19 from Macross Plus. Included are the Fast Pack parts. It is quite hefty in price at over 30000 yen/$300.

As far as Bandai's Macross Frontier DX Chogokin toys, yes, the first versions of the VF-25 Valkyries were very poor in design. Thankfully, the version 2, aka Renewal versions are far superior and are worthy of any Macross fan's collection. The VF-25A Mass Production version, aka Cannon Fodder version, toy is the latest DX Chogokin VF to be released.

In December, the DX Chogokin YF-29 Durandal VF is being released again but this time in a Isamu Dyson deco. It would be expensive but I can imagine an impressive Macross Plus themed display with both the DX YF-29 Isamu ver. and Arcadia's upcoming YF-19 side by side.
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