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If it doesn't have Travis Touchdown and Jack from Madworld, I'll be upset. Dr. Peace would be nice, too. And Dark Samus. Plus Washington and Agent G from House of the Dead Overkill. And perhaps Animal Crossing Boy. Hell, let's include Tom Nook. And Lyn from Fire Emblem. And a Space Pirate. Maybe Sylux. Also, the kid from Startropics. And balance Ike or take him out. And the first boss from Castle of Shikigami III. Momohime and Kisuke from Muramasa, as well.

Travis and Jack are both Third-Party characters, which is an entirely different licensing ballgame. The same with House of the Dead. Snake got in because Hideo Kojima had been trying to get Snake into SSB for years (Supposedly, Twin Snakes on Gamecube was part of that effort) and Sonic was in because Sega is selling Sonic to anyone who'll pay like a cheap hooker. You not only have to get legal permission, you also have to pay royalties.

I agree with you on Lyndis, though. And despite Ike being my favorite from Brawl, I kind of agree with you there as well.

Shadowman wrote:Travis and Jack are both Third-Party characters, which is an entirely different licensing ballgame. The same with House of the Dead. Snake got in because Hideo Kojima had been trying to get Snake into SSB for years (Supposedly, Twin Snakes on Gamecube was part of that effort) and Sonic was in because Sega is selling Sonic to anyone who'll pay like a cheap hooker. You not only have to get legal permission, you also have to pay royalties.

I agree with you on Lyndis, though. And despite Ike being my favorite from Brawl, I kind of agree with you there as well.

Then we must start donating royalty money to Nintendo. 8D

for those of you who did not hear: THE SSB SERIES WILL CONTINUE AND WILL START BEING CREATED
AFTER ICARRUS 3D IS OUT OF THE WAY. IT IS SAID THAT SSB4 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR NINTENDO'S NEW WIIu AND THE 3DS.
THAT IS RIGHT PEOPLE, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVAR A PORTABLE DEVICE WILL CARRY AN SSB TITLE. which make a 3ds a must have, in 2 years.
also note that nintendo did talk about a new 3ds screen 4.5 inches wide so a 3ds xl will probably be coming soon as well.(source: attack of the show(headlines at bottom of screen)).

but back to the topic:
i only want these:
1.Shinobi( i don't know the moves but i want him cuz i heard the games were good)
2.a replacement for jiggly.
in my mind Zoroark:
special-night daze(multiple rings(5) are sent out automatically and are as big as lucarios auras when fully charged/ damage: (if all hit- 15%)
special forward- foul play
special down- illusion(imagin kirby's ability copy except zoroark takes the exact form(imagin black smoke emitting from him though) of the character who last attacked him succesfully. the only way he gets out of it is with damage, and he has that character's EXACT MOVE SET AND SPEED, ETC.
special up- night slash( marth's up special basically)

continueing:
3. blazakin
4. Daroach
5. megaman
6. max from kid icarrus 3( i have only seen him in the trailer but he looks cool)
7. dark samus
8. any bounty hunter from metroid prime series.
9. master chief( to use as a punching bag for my hero Meta Knight)
10. someone from assassins creed( any main character(s)

new stages:
something form kid 3d
pokemon's white forest and black city.(both as one stage selection like mushroomy kingdom)
battle room in metroid other m( the place where you battle the real final boss or the place where you battle the new Ridley)
note:keep everything form brawl except brinstar.

i will go into more detail into my wishlist as i find time to think about it thoroughly.

and to the member who wanted shadow to be a bit slower than sonic but still a bit more powerful than ganondork definitly wants meta knight to be the second best character in a brawl game, sooo...
SCREW YOU!! SHADOW SUCKS!! EVERYONE SUCKS WHEN COMPARED TO META KNIGHT!!!(or kirby)

and thus ends my 5 min thought wishlist for ssb4. sincerely, meta knight's protege,
starwarrior1227.