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zodconvoy wrote:I got the KO Battle Tanker in the mail today! It has real good plastic and the plastic colors are spot on to the pictures of the real one but the silver paint apps are a mess. The LED for the sword is super weak, like ridiculously so. I didn't think they came that dim. The new crotch piece for Laser OP doesn't get all the way flush together with the back aft piece but it's on enough that the upgrade waist stays on so there's that. The plastic, while sturdy, has a lot of little extra nubs and bits (Drift's sword had this kinda badass hook at the tip) that need to be snipped off but not sanded down. The packaging is really cheap, like it was designed for nice thick card stock and they went with the thin cheap shoebox stuff instead. And if the plastic inserts were any thinner, they'd be imaginary. I actually like the weird, gilled faceplate but that's because I'm turning it into Scourge so it's okay to look a little ugly. It looks exactly like the pics Robot Kingdom posted so I didn't take any new ones. Honestly, having this on my table and painting it black, I really do want to get the real one now. The KO will do for making Nemesis Prime but that's about it.

I recommend it and a black can of spray paint.

Lol, the cardboard sounds exactly the same as the original, that's made from cheap paper too.
The new crotch piece from the original also doesn't fit nicely on OP.
A hooked sword does sound kinda badass.

I found the original's crotch piece fit great on both Primes I tried it on (one Prime suffered from the neck breaking problems of the original head).

I guess all the parts for on Prime nicely and that there's no loose joins, then?

I just got my KO tanker in the mail today. For the price I'm very pleased with it. I actually thought the packaging looked rather good, just a little washed out, especially the insert card with artwork of Prime. I'd frame that thing if it didn't look like it had been left out in the sun for too long

As for the tanker itself, I was pleasantly surprised at the quality of the plastic and the the tightness of the joints, all firm without being too tight. The only major problem I saw was the waist armor has a misapplied green paint app, but a few minutes with my paint kit fixed that. The LED is nearly non-existent its so dim, but I wasn't interested in the light up feature anyway. I was really turned off by the head in the pics, but in person I actually like it. Mine actually had good paint apps for the eyes, and the head looks much more fitting than the original. I removed the original by taking the head apart and held the plate with the ball joint with my finger under it when I put the new head on. A little slight wiggling and it popped on pretty easily, though I admit to sweating bullets for a minute for fear of breaking the neck. The Drift sword is a huge improvement for poor Drift. That floppy rubbery one he came with can go in storage now and I just need to add a blue dot to each side of the hilt to jazz it up a bit.

This thing is a pretty great option for making a custom and I can't wait to see what all people do with it. We've already seen Xaviercal do an amazing Toxitron with the legit Battle Tanker.
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dont waste your time guys - the company has already said they will make a scourge version of the ko battle tanker

its the same company who made the ko city commanders who make these things so obviously repaints are a no brainer

Ignoring my disdain for KO third-party armor sets in general, there are number of reasons why saying don't bother, they're already planning to do this, doesn't work.

1. Not everyone is that patient. I've seen quite few customizers tackle future planned repaints/retools that are already said to be in the works.

2. The extent of a repaint of the Battle Tanker would, at minimal, be a fairly small task of turning a few small parts black. Just get me a small can of black spray paint and there you go. If you wanna be a detail nut then it may take a bit more, but overall I believe the difference would be stunningly minimal.

3. Some pessimistic minds may not believe those plans would come to fruition, especially given what was stated in the points above.

All and all though, I could care less either way. Much as a classic-ized version of CR Black Convoy/RID Scourge would be, I tend to find the original somewhat more satisfying for it's size, plus the only figures out of that series I would want to see redone are the Combatrons/Commandos, since most of the figures out of that series were quite decent.

its not as easy as -spray afew parts black -
theres blue/silver on scourge so unless your good at pannel linning....


also since theres a botcon version of G2 classics prime now it wouldnt suprise me at all if they made a ko version for that too

were not gona see the repaint for awhile anyways as there busy on the ko protector right now getting the proto finished up

I refer primarily to the tanker itself as I say this, as I am aware the base figure would require a load of work to repaint(arguably marginally less if you had the United version), but let's have a look.


Gauntlets need only be turned black, no detail work needed.
Head would need some detail work, but not too much more than it already had.
Pelvis... negligible, G2 Prime didn't have a black crotch piece either.
Boots, just turn the blue bits black.

But really that's all that would be needed from the battle tanker itself... 30 minutes of work, tops. I suppose they could go the extra mile and add chrome to the trailer itself, but at KO quality I don't imagine it being that worthwhile.

Swindle01 wrote:its not as easy as -spray afew parts black -
theres blue/silver on scourge so unless your good at pannel linning....

It actually is really easy. There are no real panel lines that need to be done, just a bit of teal on the shins. Hell, even the parts that need to be chromed on the tanker disconnect from everything that don't end up shiny. The real fun is painting the Optimus to match it. I have a few other tricks I'm planning but I will eventually sell it. Making them is always more fun than having them!

Shadowstream wrote:But really that's all that would be needed from the battle tanker itself... 30 minutes of work, tops. I suppose they could go the extra mile and add chrome to the trailer itself, but at KO quality I don't imagine it being that worthwhile.

The KO is really good quality so believe me, it's worthwhile to make it chrome. And 30 minutes? For just the arms and feet but to do it well and to make it last? And that Optimus really doesn't come apart easily. That torso is nothing but pins blocking screws.

I am not referring to the base figure itself, I am well aware what an issue it would be to repaint, that's NOT what I'm talking about!

To clarify, the plastic is not what I'm worried on the KO Battle Tanker, I meant the chrome paint. In my experience KO companies generally don't do good paint, and knock offs with chrome are some of the worst offenders. Like I said it's not necessary though, chrome to me is little more than a happy bonus, and far from needed to get the base feel of an updated Scourge, just the fact that he's black.

Shadowstream wrote:I am not referring to the base figure itself, I am well aware what an issue it would be to repaint, that's NOT what I'm talking about!

To clarify, the plastic is not what I'm worried on the KO Battle Tanker, I meant the chrome paint. In my experience KO companies generally don't do good paint, and knock offs with chrome are some of the worst offenders. Like I said it's not necessary though, chrome to me is little more than a happy bonus, and far from needed to get the base feel of an updated Scourge, just the fact that he's black.

I thought that you were saying that you thought the plastic quality was so bad that it wasn't worth painting. I'm using an spray krylon so I'm not worried but if the KO Black Battle set is as good quality overall as the regular, it should be fine.

kos make awful chrome? my chms henkei stuff thats chrome is perfect ......while my offical hasbro beast wars figures have ALL lost there chrome.....every one of them....yeah ko companies are the worst offenders..

Swindle01 wrote:kos make awful chrome? my chms henkei stuff thats chrome is perfect ......while my offical hasbro beast wars figures have ALL lost there chrome.....every one of them....yeah ko companies are the worst offenders..

That's hardly a fair comparison, Beast Wars is almost 20 years old soon while CHMS stuff isn't even a year old. You might not have realised this, but stuff ages with time.

Funny, my CHMS seeker's chrome is very dull and smudgy looking. Then again I only have 2.

pretty much all my beast wars chrome started flaking within 1 year

my chms stuff still seems alright and i have over 15 of those with chrome on them (wildrider-rainmakers etc)

Swindle01 wrote:pretty much all my beast wars chrome started flaking within 1 year

my chms stuff still seems alright and i have over 15 of those with chrome on them (wildrider-rainmakers etc)

I don't know what you're doing to your Beast Wars toys but all of mine are fine. I even lucked into the Japanese Transmetal Megatron so I dodged the GPS bullet.

Ooh look what Ive spotted just over the road!

It appears the recent knock off of Maketoys Battle Tanker is getting a BotCon makeover!

Images from Meteor Operation via TFormers own Jack, show Invasion Ultra Magnus and Shattered Glass Optimus Prime all dolled up with a new dress and shoes!

I am less than surprised that these KOs have been repainted but the rather odd choice for a pair of very limited figures did leave me wondering the thought process behind the choices?

Also surprised no one covering the 3rd Party News Reporting didnt get this first... even Daimchoc!
Apologies if my links have failed! http://tformers.com/ig.php?mode=album&dispsize=600&album=18152&start=0&sl=

Links failed. i see no pictures.

I like SG UM's battle tanker add-ons because it gives him the extra beef I expect of UM. Not sure if I splurge or not on it, but does look nice.

robotmel wrote:

Also surprised no one covering the 3rd Party News Reporting didnt get this first... even Daimchoc!

I've Been sleeping.

daimchoc wrote:

robotmel wrote:

Also surprised no one covering the 3rd Party News Reporting didnt get this first... even Daimchoc!

I've Been sleeping.

This guy is almost always on point and out of the blue as well. He can't catch everything.

Flux Convoy wrote:

daimchoc wrote:

robotmel wrote:

Also surprised no one covering the 3rd Party News Reporting didnt get this first... even Daimchoc!

I've Been sleeping.

This guy is almost always on point and out of the blue as well. He can't catch everything.

Ill be getting both of these. We already know the quality is almost the same as the Maketoys versions. My rule for trailer sets is to buy the original first. Then I get the KO for Shadow, DIA, SG, Crystal, etc. I hope they do one for Scourge too.

Additionally, this is good because it forces Maketoys to work on something new instead of another year of Battle Tanker repaints.

robotmel wrote:

Also surprised no one covering the 3rd Party News Reporting didnt get this first... even Daimchoc!

Probably because TFW didn't report on it either which is where he gets most his finds

no news then if there making a chms ko g2 botcon prime or magnus to go with these trailers then?

LOST Cybertronian wrote:

robotmel wrote:

Also surprised no one covering the 3rd Party News Reporting didnt get this first... even Daimchoc!

Probably because TFW didn't report on it either which is where he gets most his finds

Not necessarily...