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Here's a video comparison of the available not-Devastator combiners from Maketoys and TFC.



c/o TJDuckett.



http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... les-5.html

dispite all the hype in the video about the alt modes being HUUGGGEE! i think people will be dissapointed when they see just how close they are in size. especially given the price differences.

personally im glad i went with giant/buildking as ive already got my classics devy and will gladly wait till takara does an update mp version which considering recent reveals seems much more likely.

Herc blows Giant away, no contest. Glad I went that route. However, I do hope they KO Giant so I can get a Yellow Devi for my G2 shelf.

Anyone got the links for this guys comparison of robot modes or combiner modes ? This video only compares the vechicle modes...

I'd love to see a good comparison/review video of these two sets.

edit: as it is though, at least the video does give me an almost decent look at each one (not much of an idea of the full range of vehicle articulation because I don't have x-ray eyes, and some of it just wasn't covered - do either of the cranes rotate like the original Hook's could?)

from a purely aesthetic comparison, I like the Maketoys versions better. The TFC ones, whilst bigger, do seem a lot less real to me. They're more like Cybertronian vehicles than the Giant ones. I do like that some of the Hercules cockpits (on the bulldozer for example) look like the G1 versions, but there are definitely a lot of updates made to the designs. The only TFC vehicle that I feel is really much better is the dumptruck, and I'd still liked to have seen if either of them could actually tip the back of the truck, or if the stuff in those barrows could be removed.

Right now, not regretting holding off on making a decision, and thinking Giant might be the way to go. Bring on the robot comparisons!

Video was announced to be up tonight... Here's the TFW2005 link that shows pictures.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... vs-ty.html

The difference in sizes is nowhere near as big as I thought it would be, at least when it comes to Long Haul, Mixmaster and Hook. The other three are noticeably smaller.

That's probably the biggest issue I have with MakeToys' offering: the sizes. In vehicle mode Bulldozer, Excavator and maybe even Front Loader are smaller than the rest. In robot mode Mobile Crane and Dump Truck are much taller. With TFC all six figures are universally sized in both vehicle and robot modes.

I think I'd have to agree with this guy's conclusion on the vehicle modes. TFC put a lot more effort into each figure's construction equipment, and a lack of wheels on Excavator and Bulldozer is pretty poor.

Aesthetically I'm not too bothered either way. I'll admit MakeToys is closer to the G1 originals but if I wanted G1 then I wouldn't be happy that Universe Prowl is a 370Z and not a 280Z.

I have Herc. I want Green Giant. My only regret in getting Herc? Paying too much. Shoulda known they'd come down in price.

Maybe I ought to wait for GG to come down too, but I just can't help myself ...

The size difference is not one of height, not really.

It's a matter of mass. Giant uses a lot of hollow parts. For example, Mixmaster on Herc is a solid cab. It's heavy. Giant's Mixmaster has the hollowed out cab due to how it transforms for the foot mode.

There's a lot of parts on Giant that are 3/4th pieces, meaning that there's 3 out of four sides to an arm or such. Herc doesn't do that at all.

There's some things I really like on Giant but there's a lot more stuff that bothers me. Giant's Mixmaster and Scrapper don't feel like they are internally consistent with their own scale. Scrapper's shovel looks too small and MM is a mess size-wise.

I think Giant may be more bang for your buck. I'm not sure the extra $150-200 for Herc is worth it for most collectors. If money is not an issue, go TFC, if it's a consideration, your choice is more difficult.

I'm glad TJ did these vids...I've been meaning to see a good comparison of the bot modes. After seeing them next to each other, the only MT bot I can definitively say I like better is Mixmaster, who is actually totally out of scale to all his counterparts..so while I like his design better, I don't like him with the rest of his own team. I'd probably like Scavenger better from MT as well, but I don't like the yellow (or green) head and I don't like how the digger arm is stuck on the bot arm. TFC's Bonecrusher sucks in stock form with the shit black chest, but if you get that painted green, it pwns MT's. All in all, get Neckbreaker/Bonecrusher's blade painted green and the Shapeways kit to get the blade on Herc's shoulder and TFC smokes MT.

I think "think" robot mode comparison has sold me on Giant. much more posability and personality in each bot. Again, Dumptruck is the weak link in the team, particularly when compared to Heavy Labor who is really cool and probably my favourite of the Herc team.