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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby daimchoc » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:49 am







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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby TJ Duckett » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:43 am

I'm confused as to why Daimchoc didn't just link to the full thread, since there are full photo galleries, discussion, etc. etc.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... cules.html
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby daimchoc » Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:49 am

TJ Duckett wrote:I'm confused as to why Daimchoc didn't just link to the full thread, since there are full photo galleries, discussion, etc. etc.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... cules.html


It's in the first/fifth post.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby TJ Duckett » Mon Jun 11, 2012 11:39 am

daimchoc wrote:
TJ Duckett wrote:I'm confused as to why Daimchoc didn't just link to the full thread, since there are full photo galleries, discussion, etc. etc.

http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/transform ... cules.html


It's in the first/fifth post.


Derp! MY bad! Thanks for sharing this Daim!
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby craggy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 12:38 pm

TJ, I'd just like to say thanks for your comments in your bot-mode comparison vid about the Giant bots looking like a team of individuals, as opposed to the Hercules bots. I'd been thinking the same thing buy couldn't really find the words. When you said that, and about the "which set of guys would I rather see in a Constructicon comic?" really made it click for me why I like Maketoys guys better.

Haven't watched the gestalt mode comparison yet, mind you, so there's still everything to play for.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby DevastaTTor » Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:05 pm

Was a good set of reviews and nice supporting info with the pictures. He pretty much underscored what I've been saying from day 1 of this debate; regardless of which set you go with, the fact that we have two very solid Devastators to chose from means, as collectors, we're all winners.

And now that that feel good moment is out of the way, I'm glad I've decided to go with the green Giant set and set C of the yellow version. In the end, for me it all comes down to aesthetic and I just prefer the MT designs.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby craggy » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:00 pm

Agreed. Each looks very cool, and if there was only one to choose from, I'd probably have got it, and regardless of which, I would have been happy. In comparison, despite him being a bit smaller all over, I'm going to have to go with Giant. Holding out for the lime flavoured one, even though the lemony fresh one does look good.

I don't like some of the aesthetics of Hercules. I feel the Maketoys vehicle modes are more realistic, and more uniform, and like how the robot modes evoke G1, whilst still adding their own flair to things, whilst the TFC versions are more...experimental. Hercules does have those nice vehicle mode play features, and the options to remove cranes, shovels, etc is good, but the Giant bots are more poseable and neater robots for the most part.

The gestalt modes for each are good, but I prefer Giant's more G1 look, as well as his proportions and stability. Hercules seems very loose already. TFC giving their combined mode the better hands is fair enough, he's more expensive, but that's the only real area that I feel their gestalt is better, other than size. I can only afford one, and honestly, don't feel Hercules is worth that extra money when Giant ticks so many of the boxes I'm looking for in a Classics Devy.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby Rated X » Mon Jun 11, 2012 3:39 pm

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After seeing the robot mode comparison, I still am not feeling Giant. While the alt modes might be more G1, the robot modes are so far from G1 compared to Herc. The Maketoys Scrapper and Bonecrusher look nothing like the G1 cartoon. Why would they have with cockpits on their chests ? The Maketoys versions of Scavenger and Hook have their construction tools on their arm instead of their backs making them look so "Hasbro" (hence RTS Grapple, ROTF Hoist, etc) and Maketoys Hook has a stupid yellow head and a Devi head as a foot. Maketoys Long Haul is ok TFC Long Haul but not as G1 as the TFC version due to the arm kibble. And I believe the Maketoys Mixmaster is more G1 than the TFC version, but they screw it up by making the hood over his head all black. And as for combiner mode, they both look equally G1 with the exception of the heads. But at least with Hercules, you have plenty of head/face options from TFC, Crazydevy, Dr. Wu, etc.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby Mykltron » Sat Jun 16, 2012 9:05 am

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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby zodconvoy » Sat Jun 16, 2012 10:41 am

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I shipped my POL from BBTS and should have my Giant Wednesday! All 3 sets at once! And with all this talk of individual bot modes, I feel the need to point out that I will transform them into botmode once then they are going into combined mode and may very well never leave it again. :lol:

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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby alternator77 » Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:16 pm

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after hearing what he said about the joints on hercules im glad i passed as im scared to think how well hell stand in a few years time

also curious as to no mention of giants hand accessories for the combined mode and yet 2 minutes is spent on the visor for herc?
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby NTESHFT » Sun Jun 17, 2012 2:01 pm

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I have had Giant in my possession for almost a week now, and I love it.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby TraitorJ » Tue Jun 19, 2012 4:38 am

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headsortails wrote:I have had Giant in my possession for almost a week now, and I love it.


Same goes for me. I think he's fantastic. Not 100% perfect but he's damn close.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby Grimlock75 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:00 pm

WoW!! iv'e got to get a Hercules, the scale is fantastic and it looks very menacing 8) are they still making these or are they going to become hard to get hold of soon? ...just need to sell my left nut and a few toe's :lol:
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby craggy » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:17 am

Grimlock75 wrote:WoW!! iv'e got to get a Hercules, the scale is fantastic and it looks very menacing 8) are they still making these or are they going to become hard to get hold of soon? ...just need to sell my left nut and a few toe's :lol:

should be able to pick up a 2nd run of them with all the fixes already done. I think.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby Grimlock75 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:40 am

This picture sums up my verdict :D ....seen a few other reviews which show Hercules to be a very solid toy, he picked it up and shook it hard and it hardly moved staying together fine, he also didnt have problems with loose joints.

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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby Motorthing » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:50 pm

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I've finally completed Giant with set C (thank you Kapow!) and having it in hand....well lets just say Herc is great but Giant just fits in better with my collection and having taken the gamble on the Maketoys version I'm ready to regrow that kidney I sold to buy Giant to do it all again for the DEFINITIVE green Devy.

Sorry Herc, looks like the Unicron shelf for stuff that just doesn't fit for you.........
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby Sodan-1 » Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:07 am

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Exactly what movie is he talking about that has a bad guy who clones himself but makes the clones different for "fun"? I'd like to see it. Maybe he clones one without eyes so he can always win at I-spy.

I don't necessarily disagree with TJDuckett's conclusion that MakeToys' robot modes are better but I'd say his reasons are clutching at straws. I'm not saying that the TFC robots are closer to the G1 originals, but they look like a team in the same way the G1 figures did: uniformed size, colour scheme, even articulation for god's sake. MakeToys' robots look like a team in the same way the red team in Team Fortress 2 looks like a team. You know... except they're yellow. Or green. If he wants personality in his inert team of Constructicons I guess MakeToys is the way to go. Just not sure that's the best reason. :-?

I do find it amusing that Long Haul is arguably the best of the TFC bunch but the worst of MakeToys.

To those who will be owning both the yellow and green versions of Giant: could someone take a photo of green Giant but with yellow Dump Truck, please? I want to see if it looks like the Hulk.
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Re: Maketoys Giant / TFC Hercules comparison

Postby Mykltron » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:49 am

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Sodan-1 wrote:I do find it amusing that Long Haul is arguably the best of the TFC bunch but the worst of MakeToys.
Actually, I think Long Haul is one of the best in Giant. Sure, he doesn't look like the original but his articulation is AMAZING.
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