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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Mykltron » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:19 am

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Sounds like I'd better not wait long before opening mine when he arrives.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:23 am

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:-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

I have posted a few below for you guys to take a look at, just to be sure I am right in saying his torso has been pinned the wrong way around to his waist which stops his transformation? :???:
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This image seems to show the two-part torso piece pinned in the wrong way?

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Being the wrong way, the first part cant fold down, allowing the second part to fold back?

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These next 3 images show the upper part of the torso hinge which should be the other way around.

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The seller has told me they will forward the photos on to their warehouse for examination? :-?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Ravage XK » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:25 am

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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby zappatton2 » Thu Nov 01, 2012 9:54 am

I see a couple of screws, could you take it apart and reassemble correctly? I wonder if this is a common defect. I got my shipping confirmation, guess I'll find out next week :/
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby cffincher » Thu Nov 01, 2012 10:25 am

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Just ordered mine from http://www.hlj.com/product/tkt45997. When I placed my order, the page stated "low stock" and the price was ¥4,640. I apparently got the last one they had in stock because after I checked my confirmation e-mail, it went to "discontinued" and the price went up to ¥5,800. I hope there will be no problems with the quality of my MP Sideswipe.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 3:42 pm

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zappatton2 wrote:I see a couple of screws, could you take it apart and reassemble correctly? I wonder if this is a common defect. I got my shipping confirmation, guess I'll find out next week :/

:-?
Yep, there are two screws which connect his butt! Unscrewing them should let you access the hinge which can hopefully pop out and turn around?

This is only a third of the problem as the pinned torso would also need turning around! Its that whole central part which is completely the wrong way around!! :sad:
The head aint looking too clever either! :shock:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Mkall » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:03 pm

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robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby robotmel » Thu Nov 01, 2012 4:06 pm

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Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.

Think I probably did... :-( No box, just wrapped! Im sure Takara wouldnt allow this through QC, no way!

I hope the seller comes back to me soon with a resolve. :???:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby Mkall » Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:48 pm

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Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.

Think I probably did... :-( No box, just wrapped! Im sure Takara wouldnt allow this through QC, no way!

I hope the seller comes back to me soon with a resolve. :???:

I'm sorry to say that I think you've been taken for a ride. If you payed with PayPal it may be better to file a complaint through them.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby robotmel » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:11 am

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:-?
So I received word back from the Ebay seller who have sent on the photos to their warehouse?
They have offered me a part refund or to return the figure for a full refund.

I really dont like the idea of trying to return Lambor all the way back to China? I was more than worried whilst waiting for him to arrive as the provided tracking number didnt work!
The idea of a partial refund sounds more appealing but that still leaves me with a Transformer which cant transform!
Its that bloody torso pin! I just dont feel confident in knocking it out!! :-?

This pin seems to be just over an inch in length?
Anyone had much experience with successful pin removal/replacing from their Transformers (looking at you Seibs)? :???:
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived! In the UK and in my hands!!

Postby gavinfuzzy » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:20 am

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Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote:
Mkall wrote:
robotmel wrote::-(
Its getting pretty disapointing to hear about the QC problems of MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe.

Come on takara, whats all this about? :-(

I have finally got some up-close pictures of my faulty version which I bought via China based Ebay seller 366offer.

Question: Did you get one mint in box? I'm wondering if you got a factory reject, i.e. one that didn't pass QA.

Think I probably did... :-( No box, just wrapped! Im sure Takara wouldnt allow this through QC, no way!

I hope the seller comes back to me soon with a resolve. :???:

I'm sorry to say that I think you've been taken for a ride. If you payed with PayPal it may be better to file a complaint through them.

Yep. Factory reject. >:oP

I doubt anyone would loose their box and sell their legit one less than 2 weeks after the release date.

Just a failed QC item, which a worker stole to sell. I used to buy them all the time... until local sources stopped importing them. But back in 07/08 it was the best way to get pre-release stuff, and the price is generally so cheap the flaws are overlooked.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Ravage XK » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:25 am

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I wonder if there are Brits who could help you out if they have skills in removing these types of pins? Maybe somebody who is into making custom figures.

I read that you can remove the pins by heating them up with a soldering iron and then carefully sliding them out. Not sure if I would like to try it myself though.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Mykltron » Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:20 am

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Pin removal is generally done with a nail and a large hammer? It's often a pain in the arse? The plastic around the hole will get a bit damaged as the nail always slips to the side a bit?

If you send it to me and cover the return postage cost I can have a go, but in return I'd ask that you stop ending non-question sentences with a question mark? ;)

If someone else who is better at pin removal and doesn't consider it a pain in the arse wants to do it instead of me then they're welcome.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:24 am

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Mykltron wrote:Pin removal is generally done with a nail and a large hammer? It's often a pain in the arse? The plastic around the hole will get a bit damaged as the nail always slips to the side a bit?

If you send it to me and cover the return postage cost I can have a go, but in return I'd ask that you stop ending non-question sentences with a question mark? ;)

If someone else who is better at pin removal and doesn't consider it a pain in the arse wants to do it instead of me then they're welcome.


Depending on how small the pin is, you can use a really small screwdriver (like the ones you use to tighten the screws on your glasses) to push the pin out instead of using a hammer and nail. Just push it out a quarter of the way, before using pliers to gently wiggle it out.

I did the same thing with my WFC Soundwave's elbow pins.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Autobot032 » Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:39 am

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I've used a soldering iron before. It's easier and safer to use than you'd think. Warms up the plastic around the pin to make it pliable but not melted. While it's soft, you can push the pin out. Do what you nedd and thr plastic will be cool by that point. Just push the pin back in and you're done.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Mykltron » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:41 am

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How would I know if this miss-assembly has happened to mine? I've examined him but not transformed him (I'm trying to save him for my birthday). There don't seem to be any paint problems (although the black around the rear lights doesn't go to the edges). From underneath I can see the front of his groin plate and the front of his 'six-pack', is that right?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Mykltron » Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:42 am

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Depending on how small the pin is, you can use a really small screwdriver

Oooh, thanks for the tip, I'll use a braddle which is even smaller.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Gurgintius Maximus » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:13 pm

Got mine today. Nice enough figure, door seams don't line up perfect but this seems to be typical ( Rodimus comes to mind ) and behind the driver side mirror it looks like the paint was too thin so a factory worker dabbed some red there rather sloppily.

Robot mode is pretty cool. Could use some paint apps as it strikes me as a little plain. Was hoping he was a little bigger so he did not look odd with my binaltechs. Same height, just not as bulky. All in all I am satisfied I guess. I am not over nor under whelmed with him, which is sad since he was my favorite car-bot. Hope for more with Soundwave.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:56 am

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Mykltron wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Depending on how small the pin is, you can use a really small screwdriver

Oooh, thanks for the tip, I'll use a braddle which is even smaller.


What's a braddle?
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Ravage XK » Sat Nov 03, 2012 1:09 am

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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby mongrel » Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:20 am

Man look at this garbage paint, first time out of the brand new box. From TFSource, arrived 10 minutes ago. NINETY FRIGGIN BUCKS. Do they usually accept this as a defect exchange if I wait a couple weeks for more stock?

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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby Ravage XK » Sat Nov 03, 2012 12:11 pm

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The piccy above prompted me to inspect those silver parts on mine closer and while nowhere near as bad mine shows signs where the paint ran onto the surrounding red parts.
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Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:52 pm

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Finally got my Lambor replaced. The store owner was nice enough to let me open and check several different Lambors he had in stock, but all had mist coats on the sides.

In the end, I just picked one. At least the paint chip is gone.

What, are they hiring stoned gerbils at the TT factory or something?

UPDATE:

I just took another look at the sides of the car mode under better lighting, and the paint's perfect, thankfully.

There are tiny imperfectly painted edges on the "vents" on the side, but I have no problem giving those some minor touch-ups.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sat Nov 03, 2012 7:57 pm

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Mykltron wrote:How would I know if this miss-assembly has happened to mine? I've examined him but not transformed him (I'm trying to save him for my birthday). There don't seem to be any paint problems (although the black around the rear lights doesn't go to the edges). From underneath I can see the front of his groin plate and the front of his 'six-pack', is that right?


You're safe. I checked mine last night and Lambor's abs ARE supposed to be facing the bottom of the car mode.



Thanks for the heads-up. Looks like an ice-pick.
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Re: Masterpiece MP-12 Lambor/Sideswipe has arrived in the UK, but there are PROBLEMS!!!

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Mykltron wrote:How would I know if this miss-assembly has happened to mine? I've examined him but not transformed him (I'm trying to save him for my birthday). There don't seem to be any paint problems (although the black around the rear lights doesn't go to the edges). From underneath I can see the front of his groin plate and the front of his 'six-pack', is that right?


You're safe. I checked mine last night and Lambor's abs ARE supposed to be facing the bottom of the car mode.



Thanks for the heads-up. Looks like an ice-pick. What's it used for?
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