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Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:31 am
by parc.elohssa
Burn wrote:I've been holding this back for a while but I'm going to say it.

I know they're going for cartoon accuracy but I really did love the double shoulder mounted launchers that the G1 toy had.


I'm sure someone like Dr. Wu or Before & After will fill this need. :-)

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:44 am
by AnnaChristine
Burn wrote:I've been holding this back for a while but I'm going to say it.

I know they're going for cartoon accuracy but I really did love the double shoulder mounted launchers that the G1 toy had.


You're gonna think I'm crazy, but I'd really like someone to give us the toy head. Even as a kid I thought the cartoon eyes thing was dorky compared to the medieval-knight visor the toy had.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:53 am
by Burn
AnnaChristine wrote:
Burn wrote:I've been holding this back for a while but I'm going to say it.

I know they're going for cartoon accuracy but I really did love the double shoulder mounted launchers that the G1 toy had.


You're gonna think I'm crazy, but I'd really like someone to give us the toy head. Even as a kid I thought the cartoon eyes thing was dorky compared to the medieval-knight visor the toy had.


I've looked but ... I can't see a difference.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:54 am
by AnnaChristine
The toy head has no eyes. The mouthpiece is in fact the entire face. Always loved the masked look it gave him :P

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:54 am
by megatronus
fenrir72 wrote:Torture! I can't wait to see colored pics! Btw, I have a bad feeling that this will not make the end of August release.

At the point where we're seeing test shots 7 months in advance, I think the August date is for real.

Remember, this was rumored to be for Q2 2014, so I think (hope) the official August release date is already the pushed back, final date.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:12 am
by frogbat
megatronus wrote:
frogbat wrote:after holding back on the masterpieces i caved in and got smokescreen, now i'll chase sideswipe. So i for one am glad wheeljack will be a while, gives me a breather to pick up some of the new generations figures
No need to chase! 2nd Production run of Sideswipe will be at the major retailers this March. Preorders are up at:
BBTS - http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/prod ... ode=retail
TFsource - http://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-12-sideswipe-2nd/



postage rates are very high for me so i always have to hunt around different retailers and ebay :(

think i'll go with kapow on this one

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 12:01 pm
by Wh33l Jck
mesh wrote:
warzon3 wrote:I'm starting to really hate those hands, nowhere in g1 does Jack have hands that look like that. these are more of a classics updated interpretation of his hand guards/shield

Image

Suck it noob!
Now stop your complaining!



I'm not saying WJ doesn't have the hand guards, I'm saying the one on MP WJ look nothing like the g1 toon or toy.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 4:52 pm
by TimothyR
Burn wrote:
AnnaChristine wrote:
Burn wrote:I've been holding this back for a while but I'm going to say it.

I know they're going for cartoon accuracy but I really did love the double shoulder mounted launchers that the G1 toy had.


You're gonna think I'm crazy, but I'd really like someone to give us the toy head. Even as a kid I thought the cartoon eyes thing was dorky compared to the medieval-knight visor the toy had.


I've looked but ... I can't see a difference.


yeah.. i see two eyes on the toy.

warzon3 wrote:
mesh wrote:
warzon3 wrote:I'm starting to really hate those hands, nowhere in g1 does Jack have hands that look like that. these are more of a classics updated interpretation of his hand guards/shield

Image

Suck it noob!
Now stop your complaining!



I'm not saying WJ doesn't have the hand guards, I'm saying the one on MP WJ look nothing like the g1 toon or toy.


do you like MP10?

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 5:58 pm
by Wh33l Jck
This has nothing to do with MP-10.

I'll need to be convinced that WJ's hands are that way because of the transformation. Otherwise it shouldn't have been that hard to match the toon and G1 toy model for the hands and those stupid wrist guards.

They should have just gotten rid of them to begin with in the MP design. He didn't always have them in the g1 animation, it depended on the scene and episode.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:14 pm
by Stormrider
Finally missile launches again.

In the pic on the last page, the drawing shows the back of Wheeljack's legs as covered. I really hope that stays that way. One of my peeves of the MP cars is the hollow legs.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:50 pm
by AnnaChristine
Image

Toy head. No eyes :P Which I always preferred to the cartoon head ~flails arms~

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:53 am
by Cyberpath
His eyes make him look more relatable; optics being the window to the laser core and all.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:10 am
by Burn
AnnaChristine wrote:Image

Toy head. No eyes :P Which I always preferred to the cartoon head ~flails arms~


I really hadn't noticed until now.

Can't get on board with your crusade though, definitely like the eyes. Image

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:06 am
by Sabrblade
Yeah, without the eyes, he looks mean.

Like someone who'd nonchalantly beat you into a pulp.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:21 am
by Dead Metal
warzon3 wrote:This has nothing to do with MP-10.

I'll need to be convinced that WJ's hands are that way because of the transformation. Otherwise it shouldn't have been that hard to match the toon and G1 toy model for the hands and those stupid wrist guards.

They should have just gotten rid of them to begin with in the MP design. He didn't always have them in the g1 animation, it depended on the scene and episode.

His hands are like that due to the transformation, look at the drawing and the prototype again, you'll notice how his hand guards are the taillights of the car-mode.

AnnaChristine wrote:Image

Toy head. No eyes :P Which I always preferred to the cartoon head ~flails arms~

Kinda cool, but I think the eyes are supposed to be behind the grill battle mask, kinda like this
Image

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 6:05 pm
by fenrir72
I also remember back in WWI, DonFig illustrated him in 2 ways, no optics in combat mode (like DM's pics of a knight's visor down) and optics out when conversing in a more safe situation. Maybe a 3rd party accessory would be made to simulate the effect?

Cyberpath's statement says it all, the eyes/optics humanizes the nerdy hotrodder.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:44 am
by Genocide G2.0
Image

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:02 am
by wilcosu35
holy crap, is that an official picture?

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:03 am
by ScoutBumblebee
wilcosu35 wrote:holy crap, is that an official picture?

Nope, just very impressive fan art.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:10 am
by wilcosu35
ScoutBumblebee wrote:
wilcosu35 wrote:holy crap, is that an official picture?

Nope, just very impressive fan art.



damn :-(

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:10 pm
by Dead Metal
ScoutBumblebee wrote:
wilcosu35 wrote:holy crap, is that an official picture?

Nope, just very impressive fan art.

Thought so too, it's pretty unlikely that the official promo work would feature the figure in the exact same pose and angle as the unpainted prototype. Including it's flaws, well assuming the crack on the chest is a flaw.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 2:44 pm
by Sabrblade
And a Japanese release wouldn't have the function of "Mechanical Engineer", which is more of a homage to the third Energon-Os video.

Simply "Engineer" is probably what it would say. Or "Technician". ;)

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:28 am
by Autobot032
Dead Metal wrote:
ScoutBumblebee wrote:
wilcosu35 wrote:holy crap, is that an official picture?

Nope, just very impressive fan art.

Thought so too, it's pretty unlikely that the official promo work would feature the figure in the exact same pose and angle as the unpainted prototype. Including it's flaws, well assuming the crack on the chest is a flaw.


I think the crack on the chest is intentional. The original car has gullwing doors, if I'm remembering correctly. Perhaps they're trying to replicate it. Or at the very least, maybe the chest opens in that manner to allow kibble n' bits to move around for transformation.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:34 am
by deception
I have been loving race cars so much, honestly, yes.
Waiting for the release date.

Re: Official Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-20 Wheeljack Discussion

PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 5:55 am
by Dead Metal
Autobot032 wrote:
Dead Metal wrote:
ScoutBumblebee wrote:
wilcosu35 wrote:holy crap, is that an official picture?

Nope, just very impressive fan art.

Thought so too, it's pretty unlikely that the official promo work would feature the figure in the exact same pose and angle as the unpainted prototype. Including it's flaws, well assuming the crack on the chest is a flaw.


I think the crack on the chest is intentional. The original car has gullwing doors, if I'm remembering correctly. Perhaps they're trying to replicate it. Or at the very least, maybe the chest opens in that manner to allow kibble n' bits to move around for transformation.

I also thought that it was the doors, but then I noticed how the crack follows just one of the doors while the left is just a solid piece with the chest.

But it might still be something for the transformation, I guess we'll see once we get in hand pics.