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News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:04 am

Dead Metal wrote:What about MP10b Nemesis Prime? He's also his own character and a Decepticon, but still sold as a special version of Prime.

True, that is a good point. But there might be some wiggle room with him since he's "MP-10B Black Convoy", a black version of Convoy despite having his own identity. So one could technically sorta kinda still see him as a version of Convoy even though he's an evil clone.

After all, some folks still view Transmetal 2 Dinobot as a version of the Maximal Dinobot (even before what happened with him in the last episode) despite the different faction and being a clone and such.

*shrugs* Takara only knows.

EDIT: It could also be that he's also retool on top of being a different character and of a different faction.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gallifreyan Autobot** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:15 am

this looks freaking epic :ic$:

i wonder what MP-25 will be like .. only Takara Knows ( i am Guessing)

though i wait for a masterpiece toy that ISN'T a G1 character

i wonder what MP-10C could be. for that the only real option for that figure would possibly be SG Prime though i could be wrong but i don't think Japan has seen of what the SG line is though it is Merely redecos and repurposing >:oP

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:19 am

Autobot tap out wrote:though i wait for a masterpiece toy that ISN'T a G1 character

Well, they did make those Movie Masterpieces out of the Leader Starscream and Battle Ops Bumblebee molds.

And those Brave Series Masterpieces.

Autobot tap out wrote:i wonder what MP-10C could be.

Where'd you get "MP-10C" from?

by **mblase75** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:30 am

A couple relevant photos of the original(s):

News Credits: 112 · by **megatronus** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:35 am

Sabrblade wrote:EDIT: It could also be that he's also retool on top of being a different character and of a different faction.

Bingo.

Admittedly, it's grey territory. Sure, Sunstorm is a straight redeco, but Soundwave comes with different accessories, and Tigertrack & G2 Sideswipe have different accessories AND different faces.

I've been assuming for some time that the threshold for a new number is an entirely new headsculpt, which Exhaust definitely has... and I think it's awesome!

:KREMZEEK:

News Credits: 8 · by **Flashwave** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:35 am

I thin I want that more than I did Tigertrack. The new headsculpt is a nice trea Ty

News Credits: 251 · by **Mindmaster** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:37 am

It was only a matter of time. :michaelbay:

Looks cool, but not the next Decepticon I wanted for the Masterpiece line. Can't wait to see our inevitable galleries of this sucker!

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:39 am

mblase75 wrote:A couple relevant photos of the original(s):

Man I wish I owned him so that I could photograph him for Seibertron.com! Just think of how awesome the gallery would be with some smoke in it, though I could do something fun with Exhaust's gallery as well.

As for the numbering scheme, it appears Takara is just doing whatever they want with the numbering. Considering that they skipped numbers in the G1 numbering scheme, I think the only thing that is fairly consistent with their numbering is that it doesn't always make sense. At first I was going to suggest that the numbering was retail versus exclusives, but I think MP-10B was a regular retail figure which blows my theory.

News Credits: 436 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:42 am

megatronus wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:EDIT: It could also be that he's also retool on top of being a different character and of a different faction.

Bingo.

Admittedly, it's grey territory. Sure, Sunstorm is a straight redeco, but Soundwave comes with different accessories, and Tigertrack & G2 Sideswipe have different accessories AND different faces.

I've been assuming for some time that the threshold for a new number is an entirely new headsculpt, which Exhaust definitely has... and I think it's awesome!

Or...

This was just pointed out to me, and it's so simple I can't believe we didn't think of it:

All exclusives and limited runs get the same number.
Mass releases who are new characters get new numbers.
Mass releases who are different versions of the same character (or clones in Black Convoy's case) also get the same number.

So, Exhaust would fall into the second category, being a new guy and a mass release.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:49 am

Ugh. Why make a new character that nobody cares about? Why not give IMPORTANT characters like Bumper and Hauler the MP treatment? Transformers is now ruined FOREVER.

This is pretty cool. Hope this means we'll get more Decepticon MPs- new Megatron maybe?

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:35 am

this is so friggin awesome. but even thought that beautiful new head sculpt screams "decepticon", i really wish it didnt have the faction logo tampered on. i was planning to keep my MP diaclones faction-less.

and it really sucks to hear reprolabels is so anti-smoking... anyone one else make TF stickers?

all negatives aside, im in love with this thing!

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:39 am

shajaki wrote:this is so friggin awesome. but even thought that beautiful new head sculpt screams "decepticon", i really wish it didnt have the faction logo tampered on. i was planning to keep my MP diaclones faction-less.

and it really sucks to hear reprolabels is so anti-smoking... anyone one else make TF stickers?

all negatives aside, im in love with this thing!

Someone will make a sticker for this. There are repro Diaclone "Exhaust" stickers that are regularly sold on eBay so I imagine someone will capitalize on this market.

News Credits: 638 · by **ScottyP** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:51 am

There's just no figuring out the Takara MP line.

That's not a bad thing. It's excellent. This dude is most excellent.

News Credits: 638 · by **ScottyP** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 9:00 am

So I guess the Instant Immobilizer is what Exhaust uses when the cashier tells him his cigarettes will "cost a little more" in those smoking PSA ads.

News Credits: 1 · by **Gallifreyan Autobot** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:23 am

Sabrblade wrote:
Autobot tap out wrote:though i wait for a masterpiece toy that ISN'T a G1 character
Well, they did make those Movie Masterpieces out of the Leader Starscream and Battle Ops Bumblebee molds.

And those Brave Series Masterpieces.

Autobot tap out wrote:i wonder what MP-10C could be.
Where'd you get "MP-10C" from?

what i meant by MP 10c is that once every couple of years we get a redeco of Masterpiece Optimus
Prime out of the Mold We Have : Dead Optimus (sleep mode), Nemesis Prime, that purple and green One that i don't remember the name of , Camo Prime , and the obvious Ultra Magnus ( that however is MP-22) and i was thinking what new character are they going to Use with that mold. the options i thought of where Option A: the Music label figures OR option B: Shattered Glass Optimus Prime which i went Option B. Not trying to sound like an Imbecile but now do you see where i am going? and Thanks for asking anyway SabrBlade. and i didn't think of the Movie Ones sorry about that (cringes)

News Credits: 1 · by **Gallifreyan Autobot** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:46 am

ScottyP wrote:So I guess the Instant Immobilizer is what Exhaust uses when the cashier tells him his cigarettes will "cost a little more" in those smoking PSA ads.

precisely

News Credits: 293 · by **shajaki** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:48 am

tapout, id like to point out that that i think its only coincidence that we have a 10A and 10B, since they both stand for something (black and ape respectively). so if theres another MP10 it wont necessarily be "C".

also with all the talk about the numbering, i just figure he has a new name, new face, and new allegiance. good enough for me!

News Credits: 1 · by **Gallifreyan Autobot** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 12:03 pm

shajaki wrote:tapout, id like to point out that that i think its only coincidence that we have a 10A and 10B, since they both stand for something (black and ape respectively). so if theres another MP10 it wont necessarily be "C".

also with all the talk about the numbering, i just figure he has a new name, new face, and new allegiance. good enough for me!

thanks . still waits for Masterpiece Shattered Glass Optimus Prime

by **Leader_Ultra_Magnus** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:07 pm

Best Day Ever, I am truly elated... :grin:

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:25 pm

Autobot tap out wrote:
shajaki wrote:tapout, id like to point out that that i think its only coincidence that we have a 10A and 10B, since they both stand for something (black and ape respectively). so if theres another MP10 it wont necessarily be "C".

also with all the talk about the numbering, i just figure he has a new name, new face, and new allegiance. good enough for me!

thanks . still waits for Masterpiece Shattered Glass Optimus Prime

I've got Diaclone and Shining Ultra Magnus that I'm waiting for, along with blue "Bluestreak", G2 Grimlock, G2 Starscream, and the onslaught of Bumblebee variants and repaints such as Bug Bite, Goldbug, and many others!

And Thrust, Ramjet, and Dirge would be really nice as well, but I could use a break from the Seekers for a little bit too.

News Credits: 1 · by **datguy86** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:35 pm

Wonder if we'll see Slicer soon as well. Like the figure, though.

News Credits: 3554 · by **Seibertron** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:41 pm

datguy86 wrote:Wonder if we'll see Slicer soon as well. Like the figure, though.

Great suggestion. I didn't even think of that. Hm ... would Slicer be better as an Exhaust repaint or a Wheeljack repaint?

News Credits: 409 · by **Stormrider** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:46 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
Cyberpath wrote:Hm, why is this getting a new number? Sunstorm and Tigertrack didn't.
Yet, Streak and Smokescreen did.

My guess is the differing faction was enough to make him get his own number instead of being a mere special version of MP-20.

Don't forget MP10B Black Convoy. And SoundBlaster included Ratbat, a new figure, so we can't simply say it's a retooling.

I suspect the numbering is just a new marketing strategy. Personally, I like consistency. (I just hope they don't change the package style). I think I will pass on him, but I am glad that so many people are excited and hope that equates to more sales and more MP figures.

I don't think the numbering is a sign that the line is running out of steam. I think it's the opposite. I am basing my view on the recent MP Book that was released and the all the excitement that the MP designers are sharing with fans through articles, tweets, and pictures.

Ryan, I see your point regarding the exclusive. This is the first Transformers release of this character. And in the past, characters like Hauler, Cobolt Sentry figures, and Sunstorm have started out as exclusives. I am glad they are not going that way with the MP line. These figures are pretty penny already, no need to add a premium to make it an exclusive and harder to get.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:53 pm

I must be one of the few people who ISN'T enthused about this.

TT should have just established a secondary line for MP Diaclones instead of lumping them all into one.
(Guessing the next one will be Powered Convoy)

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:02 pm

Sorry if I seem a bit skeptical, but where did that MP-23 come from exactly? I'd like to believe the blogger, but I think we're all jumping to conclusions a bit.