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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby shajaki » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:18 pm

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huh... i havent heard anything. but if this turns out to be fake then someone will have an official news post somewhere.

the difference between MP10 and the asia MP10 (or "relaunch version") is actually just a display stand.

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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby bruticus1978 » Thu Jul 31, 2014 8:40 pm

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Thanks! So is $350 a decent price for this guy? If TT is planning on re-releasing MP-10, about how much would it be?
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby Stormrider » Thu Jul 31, 2014 9:42 pm

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bruticus1978 wrote:Thanks! So is $350 a decent price for this guy? If TT is planning on re-releasing MP-10, about how much would it be?


$350 is way too expensive. MP10 was $250.
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Transformers Asia Reissues Hasbro Masterpiece Optimus Prime

Postby Va'al » Tue Aug 05, 2014 6:08 am

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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby Madkatmaximus » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:21 am

Thank God. Just please, please, please be within my price range.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 10:31 am

So both those MP-10 rereleases (one hasbro, the other takara)would have to be imported over from asia for us europeans and north americans. Apart from the stand and the smokestacks, do they have other differences? Because I bet that asia exclusive hasbro rerelease will be much cheaper. Pretty much my main question why would anyone get the takara rerelease while the hasbro rerelease will also be available?

Also, is anyone geting a vibe that they will rerelease MP-10 Hasbro in the western continents too?
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby megatronus » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:45 am

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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby megatronus » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:47 am

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william-james88 wrote:Also, is anyone geting a vibe that they will rerelease MP-10 Hasbro in the western continents too?

I kind of doubt it, especially since YOTH Prime was released so recently. I feel like we would have heard about it by now, or would have gotten a leak from TRU's computers or something (as we did way back with Prowl).

This is probably just for the folks in Asia who didn't have access to the first release. Hope it's as cheap at retail as the first release, but with import markups as they are, I doubt it...
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:50 am

megatronus wrote:
This is probably just for the folks in Asia who didn't have access to the first release. Hope it's as cheap at retail as the first release, but with import markups as they are, I doubt it...


Who knows, with all these MP-10s, maybe the infamous Lena seller will get his/her hands on a few ;)
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby Cyberpath » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:53 am

william-james88 wrote:So both those MP-10 rereleases (one hasbro, the other takara)would have to be imported over from asia for us europeans and north americans. Apart from the stand and the smokestacks, do they have other differences? Because I bet that asia exclusive hasbro rerelease will be much cheaper. Pretty much my main question why would anyone get the takara rerelease while the hasbro rerelease will also be available?

Also, is anyone geting a vibe that they will rerelease MP-10 Hasbro in the western continents too?

The smokestacks are the same for both versions.

Takara version has darker shade of blue; a grey Roller; and the interior panels of trailer have more luster.

Hasbro version has baby blue eyes, which fits with Takara's newer MP Autobot figures. A blue Roller, and yellow painted lights like in TFTM.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 11:56 am

Cyberpath wrote:
william-james88 wrote:So both those MP-10 rereleases (one hasbro, the other takara)would have to be imported over from asia for us europeans and north americans. Apart from the stand and the smokestacks, do they have other differences? Because I bet that asia exclusive hasbro rerelease will be much cheaper. Pretty much my main question why would anyone get the takara rerelease while the hasbro rerelease will also be available?

Also, is anyone geting a vibe that they will rerelease MP-10 Hasbro in the western continents too?

The smokestacks are the same for both versions.

Takara version has darker shade of blue; a grey Roller; and the interior panels of trailer have more luster.

Hasbro version has baby blue eyes, which fits with Takara's newer MP Autobot figures. A blue Roller, and yellow painted lights like in TFTM.


Oh, so only MP01 had a smokestack difference, interesting. Thanks for the description, it further cements that I will simply wait for the hasbro version to be made available.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:38 pm

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william-james88 wrote:So both those MP-10 rereleases (one hasbro, the other takara)would have to be imported over from asia for us europeans and north americans. Apart from the stand and the smokestacks, do they have other differences? Because I bet that asia exclusive hasbro rerelease will be much cheaper. Pretty much my main question why would anyone get the takara rerelease while the hasbro rerelease will also be available?

Also, is anyone geting a vibe that they will rerelease MP-10 Hasbro in the western continents too?


Tomy has different paint apps and pvc. Different box. Cheaper? I doubt it as the price for this one in the USA WAS cheap......until the scalpers got to it. In Asia, almost as expensive as the Tomy, give or take a $20.00 difference.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:04 pm

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Tomy has different paint apps and pvc. Different box. Cheaper? I doubt it as the price for this one in the USA WAS cheap......until the scalpers got to it. In Asia, almost as expensive as the Tomy, give or take a $20.00 difference.


So are you saying that it will be closer priced to the Takara MP 10 because they know they can get more money from it due to the high scalper costs? Or simply because this is an asian release? I ask because Hasbro reissued Grimlock and didnt charge much even though the scalpers were having a ball with the previous releases of that figure.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby Convoy » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:13 pm

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Tomy has different paint apps and pvc. Different box. Cheaper? I doubt it as the price for this one in the USA WAS cheap......until the scalpers got to it. In Asia, almost as expensive as the Tomy, give or take a $20.00 difference.


I'm wondering if TRU started raising the price on the MP Transformers at release to stick it to/take advantage of scalpers. The price always comes down... until it goes up on the secondary market.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby megatronus » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:30 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:
Tomy has different paint apps and pvc. Different box. Cheaper? I doubt it as the price for this one in the USA WAS cheap......until the scalpers got to it. In Asia, almost as expensive as the Tomy, give or take a $20.00 difference.


So are you saying that it will be closer priced to the Takara MP 10 because they know they can get more money from it due to the high scalper costs? Or simply because this is an asian release? I ask because Hasbro reissued Grimlock and didnt charge much even though the scalpers were having a ball with the previous releases of that figure.

I would say because it's an Asian Release.

The Asia reissues of Starscream & Grimlock both started out at $200 with the US retailers, probably due to the import cost & markup. I can see Hasbro Reissue MP-10 costing about $250. But we won't know til we know.

Also, both recent reissues of Grimlock have by and large been of lesser quality, which is why you can still find the Asia Reissue Grimlock rather easily (the Hasbro reissue sold like hotcakes due to cheapness, but I doubt the scalpers are making a lot on them).
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby K2vox » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:42 pm

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PRAISE THE ALLSPARK!!! As long as this thing is under $200 I will be getting one. I missed out the first time and cry inside every day. I WANT HASBRO MP PRIME. I also missed jumping on the Hasbrotoyshop online release of Soundwave... which also makes me cry. I love these toys but hate the scalpers...
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby william-james88 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:54 pm

K2vox wrote:PRAISE THE ALLSPARK!!! As long as this thing is under $200 I will be getting one. I missed out the first time and cry inside every day. I WANT HASBRO MP PRIME. I also missed jumping on the Hasbrotoyshop online release of Soundwave... which also makes me cry. I love these toys but hate the scalpers...


I am in the same boat. I don't get why Hasbro doesnt just make more when they see how high the demand is
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby megatronus » Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:55 pm

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K2vox wrote:PRAISE THE ALLSPARK!!! As long as this thing is under $200 I will be getting one. I missed out the first time and cry inside every day. I WANT HASBRO MP PRIME. I also missed jumping on the Hasbrotoyshop online release of Soundwave... which also makes me cry. I love these toys but hate the scalpers...


I am in the same boat. I don't get why Hasbro doesnt just make more when they see how high the demand is

Right? Especially with the transition to new MP packaging - that seems like the perfect excuse to re-release him in the states.
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Postby K2vox » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:15 pm

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william-james88 wrote:
K2vox wrote:PRAISE THE ALLSPARK!!! As long as this thing is under $200 I will be getting one. I missed out the first time and cry inside every day. I WANT HASBRO MP PRIME. I also missed jumping on the Hasbrotoyshop online release of Soundwave... which also makes me cry. I love these toys but hate the scalpers...


I am in the same boat. I don't get why Hasbro doesnt just make more when they see how high the demand is

Right? Especially with the transition to new MP packaging - that seems like the perfect excuse to re-release him in the states.


^THIS - See, if Hasbro released more based on demand, they could keep the price down and still make money hand over fist and EVERYONE could have 1 or 2 MP Primes. The scalpers on Ebay that are making 300% profit are making money that is NOT going toward the GDP or GNP. I read that. Only when you buy a new product produced from a company does it count. So the stupid money going to scalpers in NO way stimulates the economy. What do 3rd Party companies do when the demand is high? They re-release stuff! Look at that old classics Ultra Magnus trailer add-on (which I got and is awesome). And even FP re-released their not-swindle and not-blast-off. FOR SHAME HASBRO.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby Seibertron » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:30 pm

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I'm curious why everyone thinks this will be in their price range if it's an Asia exclusive. It might be less expensive than current eBay prices (haven't looked recently) but considering previous Asia exclusive re-releases, the prices don't really seem to work out to our favor after import costs.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby shajaki » Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:37 pm

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megatronus wrote:Right? Especially with the transition to new MP packaging - that seems like the perfect excuse to re-release him in the states.
that would actually be perfect. and awesome. i almost bought another MP soundwave just because of the way hasbro boxed him up (i already had takaras and all tapes).

Seibertron wrote:I'm curious why everyone thinks this will be in their price range if it's an Asia exclusive. It might be less expensive than current eBay prices (haven't looked recently) but considering previous Asia exclusive re-releases, the prices don't really seem to work out to our favor after import costs.
i was actually wondering the same thing. wasnt the first MP10 $300 or over? in general the asia MP's have all been pricey.
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Postby Seibertron » Tue Aug 05, 2014 4:27 pm

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Seibertron wrote:I'm curious why everyone thinks this will be in their price range if it's an Asia exclusive. It might be less expensive than current eBay prices (haven't looked recently) but considering previous Asia exclusive re-releases, the prices don't really seem to work out to our favor after import costs.
i was actually wondering the same thing. wasnt the first MP10 $300 or over? in general the asia MP's have all been pricey.


The first one was $250 if I recall, and the Hasbro version was $120.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

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Seibertron wrote:I'm curious why everyone thinks this will be in their price range if it's an Asia exclusive. It might be less expensive than current eBay prices (haven't looked recently) but considering previous Asia exclusive re-releases, the prices don't really seem to work out to our favor after import costs.
i was actually wondering the same thing. wasnt the first MP10 $300 or over? in general the asia MP's have all been pricey.


The first one was $250 if I recall, and the Hasbro version was $120.


Well the cheapest MP10 on eBay UK right now is £225 ($380??) and that's actually quite reasonable. Now I can't see that Asia re-issue exclusive being that expensive? and any chance to get him cheaper is welcome.
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Re: TakaraTomy Masterpiece Reissues Next Year - MP-14 Red Alert, MP-12 Sideswipe, MP-11 King Starscream,

Postby fenrir72 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:12 pm

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Tomy has different paint apps and pvc. Different box. Cheaper? I doubt it as the price for this one in the USA WAS cheap......until the scalpers got to it. In Asia, almost as expensive as the Tomy, give or take a $20.00 difference.


So are you saying that it will be closer priced to the Takara MP 10 because they know they can get more money from it due to the high scalper costs? Or simply because this is an asian release? I ask because Hasbro reissued Grimlock and didnt charge much even though the scalpers were having a ball with the previous releases of that figure.

I would say because it's an Asian Release.

The Asia reissues of Starscream & Grimlock both started out at $200 with the US retailers, probably due to the import cost & markup. I can see Hasbro Reissue MP-10 costing about $250. But we won't know til we know.

Also, both recent reissues of Grimlock have by and large been of lesser quality, which is why you can still find the Asia Reissue Grimlock rather easily (the Hasbro reissue sold like hotcakes due to cheapness, but I doubt the scalpers are making a lot on them).


This. Yup! Grimlock re-issues have "issues" in quality alright. And the price for the Asia release are much higher than the US mainland. That and eventual scalper mark up. What's surprising is that being manufactured in Asia, you'd expect it to be cheaper but the TRU USA version was much cheaper(at least from what I heard at its initial SRP before scalpers)
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Re: Masterpiece Reissues Next Year: MP-14 Alert, MP-12 Lambor, MP-11 Starscream, Optimus Prime

Postby warzon3 » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:33 pm

With all the mp-10 repaints and reissues I think a Hasbro/TRU reissue is a forgone conclusion in the near future
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